Impressed with Harper's eulogy /gave me pride in "MY" Prime minister
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I guess overall I just can't take any of this stuff very seriously.
Harper and all of the other politicians who we have heard speak about Jim are professional public figures. They have teams of people helping them write their comments, telling them how to act, telling them exactly how to deliver their speeches. Hell, they probably don't even choose their own outfits for these events. I don't think being able to deliver a speech really says anything about them other than that they can deliver a good speech.
I noticed that this great Irish man's funeral, whom those in attendance wore 'green ties' in remembrance, was in St. James Anglican Cathedral in Toronto.
The Church of England was the great instigator of the bloody persecution of the Catholic Irish from Elizabeth and Cromwell through the Easter rising and partition along religious lines there after.
In fact the Catholic Burial Service proscribes eulogies as manifestations of Pride.. and they are usually reserved for the reception dinner afterwards. But i guess Flaherty went out the way he came in.. as a bit of phony.. as a quisling for the forces of occupation.. in his case those of the Global Investment Orgnanism.
I managed to miss it all... however.. RIP.. lest i be accused of 'disrespect'.
The Church of England was the great instigator of the bloody persecution of the Catholic Irish from Elizabeth and Cromwell through the Easter rising and partition along religious lines there after.
In fact the Catholic Burial Service proscribes eulogies as manifestations of Pride.. and they are usually reserved for the reception dinner afterwards. But i guess Flaherty went out the way he came in.. as a bit of phony.. as a quisling for the forces of occupation.. in his case those of the Global Investment Orgnanism.
I managed to miss it all... however.. RIP.. lest i be accused of 'disrespect'.
Definitely not Canadian.. maybe a bonafied (bona fide) citizen of Wall Street.. or the City of London.. spectral constructs that are profoundly anti-national and recognize no borders.. as far as money goes anyway.
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Wait a minute. . . you're Catholic and you think "bona fide" is "bonafied?"
I'd heard the Catholic church got away from Latin, but I had no idea it had gotten that far from Latin!
Fair point.. 'bona fide'.. i stand corrected. In fact 'bonafied' isn't even a word.. should have looked it up.
And there is a movement to bring back Latin to the core of Catholic practice, especially in the liturgy with the Tridentine Latin Mass and the other Latin sacraments. which i fully support.
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Another case of "the best-laid plans of mice and men" (sorry, that's a quote from a despised Protestant, but it's apropos). The Catholics switched to the vernacular mass, with the best of intentions, right about the same time international travel skyrocketed.
Oh, well.
Geez Cold one.... You have Pope doing his best to open doors and you doing your best to keep distinctions. For what DON'T you show your teeth?
I was away for Easter but i had to respond to that one.. since so much of what Francis has said has been filtered through a Political Correctness filter or outright misrepresented by the popular media. He really is a very orthodox and dogmatic Catholic, as all Popes have been. Faith is all about distinctions, not about dulling down and blending concepts of good and evil into consistency of undifferentiated goo.
One of the changes in priorities for Francis from that of Benedict is his willingness to challenge the economic paradigm of New Age, and characterise it for what it is especially in his exhortation Evangelium Gaudium (which is consistent with all of the Social Encyclicals since Rerum Novarum of Leo XIII).
This is from his meditations of the Stations of the Cross on Good Friday.. usually used by Popes to draw attention to the injustices and failings of the World and the Church.. in this case of the economic principles championed by Flaherty and Harper government.
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Pope Francis' Holy Thursday foot washing: Will traditional Catholics continue their outcry? | syracuse.com
Apparently you missed the entire point. Francis says it's okay to step out of the fifteenth century - and green ties were symbolic of Ireland. Seems appropriate to honour a man of non-denominational Irish heritage. Do you recall a Sunday School promise at the sight of a rainbow ... or cringe in terror?
Well if stepping out of the 15th Century means embracing the feminist agendas of abortion and destruction of the family.. or the homosexual agenda.. or the entitlement of unsupervised free markets to run rough shod over the world, impoverishing billions while enriching beyond imagination a small, corrupt cartel of traders and financiers.. i think you missed Francis' point.. which deals with responsibility and conscience for values that are not locked in any specific century.
Francis did cease washing the feet of women this year, as the symbolism is directly linked to the scriptural narration of Jesus washing the feet of his apostles. The rubrics for the ceremony were actually only codified under Pius XII, but the problems that traditional Catholics have with extending beyond priests is that it opens expectations that cannot be met.. such as female priests.. or detracts from the dignity and sovereign state of the priesthood. Personally i don't think its that big a deal.. except that it is being used by the media as evidence of an agenda that Francis has not embraced.
The green is the colour of Irish Catholics (supposedly, St. Patrick used shamrock to teach the Irish about the Trinity, so the colour green and the shape of shamrock came to symbolize the Irish Christianity). As far as i can tell.. Flaherty considered the moral obligations of Catholicism or Christianity in general a distraction from his primary role as enabler of libertarian economics.. and disenfranchisement of national privilege in its own economic affairs. His government never stood for any truly conservatives causes more than some superficial lip service. Hence the use of the green at his funeral was pure sentimental tokenism, without meaning or symbolism.. a bit of a farce.
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