after being in here I've moved even further left...I damn near embrace the whole left side now...;-)I liked Khalil Gibran's poem about children. I now feel that I don't really want my children's thoughts to be an extension of my thoughts. I want them to have their own thoughts about things. Even though sometimes I may disagree. I guess I could be called a liberal among other things. Everyone likes labels. Maybe some day the short sightedness of that societal habit will fade away along with the idea that we own our children.