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Corduroy

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I'd settle for mandatory birth control implants at age 11 (and reversible sterilization for the boys), to be reversed only upon a showing of the financial and psychological wherewithal to support a child.

I'd settle for girls having the right to their own body and rational sex education.
 

PoliticalNick

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eh careful there, many of these believers like to hook old folk up to every machine conceivable regardless of the suffering caused... that's the other end of the debate

Oh yea, I know. I have a living will to stop any idiot from doing just that. When my body says I'm dead that is it, no machines, just dead, cremated and my ashes spread to the wind from the top of Lakeview Mt.

What about coma patients who are kept on respirators?

They are dead except for the machine. Besides, many coma patients don't require a ventilator.
 

gerryh

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I'd settle for girls having the right to their own body and rational sex education.


They have the right to their own body. They have the right to not have sex to begin with. Everyone with half a brain knows that the consequence of having sex is a pregnancy. So, they have the right to prevent that pregnancy from the get go. If they choose to take a chance on getting pregnant, then they need to be responsible.
 

Sal

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Oh yea, I know. I have a living will to stop any idiot from doing just that. When my body says I'm dead that is it, no machines, just dead, cremated and my ashes spread to the wind from the top of Lakeview Mt.
ooooooooooooh yeah me too, and I have several power of attorneys in case someone develops a wish to try to over ride said living will...

What about babies born prematurely who are kept on respirators in the Pediatric ICU? They can't sustain life on their own. Are they human? If so, what makes them human?
the two oporative words there ma dear, babies born
 

PoliticalNick

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I'd settle for mandatory birth control implants at age 11 (and reversible sterilization for the boys), to be reversed only upon a showing of the financial and psychological wherewithal to support a child.

How about some mind-control implants? Then you and the others can take away all freedom of thought and everything else and really force everyone to live by your personal standards.

You post utter nonsense here TB. You promote the totalitarian 'Big Brother' nanny state to the extreme. :roll:
 

gerryh

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That's as far as you needed to go. The rest was just a limited list of what that implies.


No, the rest was showing responsibility. Something you obviously know nothing about. For you it's all about "me" "me" "me", and the hell with anyone else. Abortion is the ultimate in selfishness and irresponsibility.
 

damngrumpy

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Does the law say anything about convenience? The woman has a right to her own body
source the law People can whine all day about reasons, women don't have to have a
child if they don't want to. Sometimes I hear about personal responsibility. On whose part?
There are two people fooling around, is the woman anymore responsible than the man? NO.
There are cases where a woman does not want a lasting relationship with a particular man
and she gets an abortion because once that child is born all kinds of issues arrive.
The father then has visiting rights, and the law says he has to pay and on and on.
For the woman, she has to have the child and have an ongoing relationship with the guy she
doesn't care about.
Oh yes she can adopt it out but that skrews people up too and should be considered carefully
before embarking on that road.
Passion and reason are not even distant cousins when it come to sex
 

JLM

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No G. It's just a fetus. It isn't a human until it's born and can sustain life functions on it's own.

Uh uh, there is no such thing as JUST a fetus, otherwise all fetuses would be the same. How would you describe a dog fetus to distinguish it from a human fetus. "Fetus" on its own just won't work. -:)
 

PoliticalNick

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They have the right to their own body.
Big of you to admit that Gerry. You realize that means YOU don't have a right to their body or control of it. Thanks, end of discussion!
They have the right to not have sex to begin with.
That also implies they have a right TO have sex also!
Everyone with half a brain knows that the consequence of having sex is a pregnancy.
That's funny, I had sex many times that didn't result in pregnancy. Am I doing it wrong?
So, they have the right to prevent that pregnancy from the get go.
Unless the devout catholics get their way and outlaw birth control as well as abortion. There go the pope's billions caring for all those unwanted babies. The way I see it unless you and your ilk are ready to carry the fetus to term, deliver it, and care for it til it's 18 you have NO input on another's choice.
If they choose to take a chance on getting pregnant, then they need to be responsible.
I actually agree with this sentiment but unless you want to go with the mind-control implants and the totalitarian society under your rule you need to accept that not everyone shares your beliefs and they aren't going to listen to you or me.
 

gerryh

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Does the law say anything about convenience?


The "law" can be changed..... I assume that when the law stated that one couldn't get an abortion after 20 weeks or that you needed to consult with at least 2 doctors or a panel decided on if you could get an abortion or not you were fine with that?
 

Corduroy

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No, the rest was showing responsibility. Something you obviously know nothing about. For you it's all about "me" "me" "me", and the hell with anyone else. Abortion is the ultimate in selfishness and irresponsibility.

Talking to you people is impossible. I don't see how I can effectively say that I agreed with your post and yet you think I meant the opposite. All I said was that your post was essentially redundant and that all of those things you listed (including responsibility) is an implication of your right to your body. Was that not clear enough?

How about the next time I agree with you, I'll just post this?


'bout your level gerry? cool kthxbai
 

gerryh

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Talking to you people is impossible. I don't see how I can effectively say that I agreed with your post and yet you think I meant the opposite. All I said was that your post was essentially redundant and that all of those things you listed (including responsibility) is an implication of your right to your body. Was that not clear enough?

How about the next time I agree with you, I'll just post this?


'bout your level gerry? cool kthxbai



So, now you are anti abortion?

So what is you telling people your beliefs overrule theirs and that they have to live by your particular set of morals? I would call that far more selfish than any abortion.


No, I said that abortion is the ultimate in selfishness and irresponsibility.