Not really ...it is a recent development when the family can afford to sue the criminal in civil court. If they win they are compensated but that becomes an iffy proposition. I am tallking about making it a part of the sentence. 25 years plus a garnishee of "x" years wages plus all earnings while in prison. ( If the convict writes a book and makes a ton of money...that's just not right.)
I would rather live my life as if there is a God
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we have proceeds of crimes laws that prohibit profiting from the crime.
interesting idea having wages garnished. i am going to look into this. somehow it sounds similar to laws from now defunct societies.
interesting idea having wages garnished. i am going to look into this. somehow it sounds similar to laws from now defunct societies.
well, if it is not then what justification is there for them not being allowed to profit from it?
I guess it comes down to the society at large and how it views criminals. Bundy paintings selling at all just becuase he painted them is a reflection of the society at large and raises more questions about it than the criminal.
I guess it comes down to the society at large and how it views criminals. Bundy paintings selling at all just becuase he painted them is a reflection of the society at large and raises more questions about it than the criminal.
Ahh ...but that is the point . The criminal is allowed the leisurely time to pursue the arts, law degrees,etc while society foots the bill. While the victims family may be put in greivious situations. Compensating the victims allows a minimal benefit. As opposed to the victims tax dollars being used to support a criminal that put them in the situation in the first place.
fair enough. people see criminals as getting a free ride which does not do the system any good at all.
Then let the proceeds of their work go to funding their upkeep just as they would have to fund their own upkeep if free.
I am hesitant about laws granting proceeds to families of victims because i see it as an avenue for the families to victimize both the victim and the criminal.
Then let the proceeds of their work go to funding their upkeep just as they would have to fund their own upkeep if free.
I am hesitant about laws granting proceeds to families of victims because i see it as an avenue for the families to victimize both the victim and the criminal.
Re: RE: I would rather live my life as if there is a God
that is an EXCELLENT idea. :idea: for many reasons.. :thumbleft:
zenfisher said:
that is an EXCELLENT idea. :idea: for many reasons.. :thumbleft:
In some countries the family of perps are required to pay to victims too. In anchient times some crimes made perps the slaves of their victims.
Reverend Blair said:
HA!! :lol: . I feel that I have had stronger faith since I stopped being sent to church, and was left to look inside myself to find out what I really believed. Could have something to do with the fact that I hate people telling me what to do or believe :wink:
iamcanadian said:
There are no statistics in there that support your position. There are no statistics at all in it, just some people offering opinions pro and con. You'll have to do better than that.
These are comments from University students who would be supposedly doing some research on the subject.
There are many different views expressed so I would say it is a valid set of perspectives for a forum discussion.
There are many different views expressed so I would say it is a valid set of perspectives for a forum discussion.
Re: RE: I would rather live my life as if there is a God
Granted, but you said there are statistics to support your view, so I asked you to produce them. That's not it.
iamcanadian said:
Granted, but you said there are statistics to support your view, so I asked you to produce them. That's not it.
Dexter Sinister, I may be able to help out in this regard. There was apparently a study released regarding the effect of executions on homicide rates; however, the study seems to indicate that the opposite of the trend which iamcanadian has asserted (with all due respect to iamcanadian, of course) is in fact more true. The study can be accessed here. Most notably in the study, it asserts that "[an] increase in homicides during times of both abolition and retention was found, with the retentionist increase more than double the abolitionist increase."
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Simple: Executions reflect a bloodthirsty society. In a bloodthirsty society, crime occurs at a higher rate than in a peaceful society that values human life.
I don't know what's so difficult to understand about that. It seems quite logical to me.
Simple: Executions reflect a bloodthirsty society. In a bloodthirsty society, crime occurs at a higher rate than in a peaceful society that values human life.
I don't know what's so difficult to understand about that. It seems quite logical to me.