I know this always keeps coming up, but should Canada become a republic?

Adriatik

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It's pretty much anything-but-monarchy to me...

I presented the scenario of a Head of State elected by the House of Commons because I was trying to figure out a way to scrap monarchy while bringing minimal changes to how Canada currently functions. This was in response to those who think Canada is just fine the way it is.

I personally agree that there are many things Canada should try to improve and I'm more than open to a lot of the ideas you propose... My main point of focus in my posts however has to do with the simple fact that whatever system we have, hereditary monarchy is not the way to go.

I could not agree with you more.
I just hope more people understood that a constitutional-monarchy is not a good system...

Cheers!
 

TenPenny

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I can tell you with a very staright straight face that I believe a Head of State elected by the House of Commons with a 2/3rds majority would be a much better system than a system where it is decided by the sex life of British Royals.


A president elected by the people themselves would be way better than one elected by the House of Commons...[/quote]


And I'm sure that the voters of the US would like a system like that, too. Unfortunately, their system doesn't work that way either.
 

Adriatik

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A president elected by the people themselves would be way better than one elected by the House of Commons...


And I'm sure that the voters of the US would like a system like that, too. Unfortunately, their system doesn't work that way either.[/quote]

You are right,

It's not actually the US citizens naming tgheir president, it is the electoral college. The people can popularly elect a president but that decision can be overturned by delegates of the electoral college who then cast their votes on who should be president.

There should not be an electoral college...
 

Dexter Sinister

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...a constitutional-monarchy is not a good system...
What makes it not a good system? With the exception of the existence of the monarchy itself, none of the issues raised here as being obvious problems in the Canadian system have anything to do with it being a constitutional monarchy. I agree the monarchy is an archaic, undemocratic institution, but it's not the source of any of the real problems we face.

The head of state, BTW, is not the Queen of England, it's the Queen of Canada. She's not really the Queen of England either, except in a sense similar to the outgoing George Bush being the President of Kansas. She's Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in that context, with the U.K. being England, Wales, and Scotland.
 

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You are right,

It's not actually the US citizens naming tgheir president, it is the electoral college. The people can popularly elect a president but that decision can be overturned by delegates of the electoral college who then cast their votes on who should be president.

There should not be an electoral college...

You obviously have no idea how the electoral college works. When a state votes for a presidential candidate they get the electoral votes from that state. All of them.
 

Adriatik

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You obviously have no idea how the electoral college works. When a state votes for a presidential candidate they get the electoral votes from that state. All of them.

Voters don't actually vote for the presidential candidate directly, they vote for slates of electors who in turn elect the presidential candidate.. All the voters do is vote for "who will elect the president.. The electors in the electoral college are free to vote for any which candidate they choose...

Electoral College (United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
 

Adriatik

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What makes it not a good system? With the exception of the existence of the monarchy itself, none of the issues raised here as being obvious problems in the Canadian system have anything to do with it being a constitutional monarchy. I agree the monarchy is an archaic, undemocratic institution, but it's not the source of any of the real problems we face.

Remember, I am not saying that my idea is simply replacing the Queen as head of state, it is so much more.

My idea is replacing the Queen with an elected president as head of state and government, decentralizing the federal government to give provinces more powers, and - I forgot to mention it in my original idea but - Removing the senate that has no clear role on Canada's. gocvernment. All these things combined will fix our divided country, our overspending for the senate and GG, make the electoral system better and bring the power closer to the people.

The head of state, BTW, is not the Queen of England, it's the Queen of Canada. She's not really the Queen of England either, except in a sense similar to the outgoing George Bush being the President of Kansas. She's Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in that context, with the U.K. being England, Wales, and Scotland.

I know she is technically called the Queen of Canada but the reason I said England is because I don't accept the Queen as the head of state. My point is that she is the head of state represented by the GG in our constitution. Also, I know that the UK is England, Wales and Scotland combined, it's just a figure of speech to call it England....