How Would You Do Health Care?

Tecumsehsbones

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Probably not- I was just going by what you explained to me two or three years ago. :) :)

Oh, I told you I do criminal cases?

You are an idiot.

Well, no, they don't 'do better health care than anyone', because there are various different systems in Europe.

I took him to mean "the better European systems," and "Europe" to include the developed world.
 

Highball

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I would make the Health Care Plan the members of the administration and Congress now enjoy. Go see the doctor of your choice, no cancellation clauses and no co-pays.
 

JLM

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Oh, I told you I do criminal cases?

You are an idiot.


No, YOU are the f**king idiot! You have to have more than two working brain cells to defend criminal cases. You never actually said you defend criminal cases. You just went through a whole pile of rigmarole trying to justify why the most depraved criminal deserves a lawyer who will do everything in his power to get him acquitted of the charge (you obviously didn't give a f**k if the guy goes out and repeats the same crime) contrary to my contention that every accused deserves a FAIR trial and in many cases NOTHING MORE. That is my theory of the defense lawyer's duties. Of course no defense lawyer in the world will agree with me because it f**ks up his bottom line. :) :) :) :)
 

Bar Sinister

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Well, no, they don't 'do better health care than anyone', because there are various different systems in Europe.

Then just focus on France. It is pretty much agreed that the French have the most cost effective and comprehensive health care system. You will get different rating depending on the source, but I am using WHO's assessment. If you don't like France then any of the Scandinavian democracies will do.
 

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I'm on record in lots of threads saying that, in the U.S., health care should be done by the states. So what would I want my state to do?

Such health care refusal indicates a very serious thing is happening. So you cannot do anything to reverse it. It is the downhill deterioration which goes so rapid that none can stop it.

Why is this? because the last thing which the government may do is to discard the health care in any way and at any rate even a little bit .. it indicates their despair of any hope. And nothing will save them from the inevitable collapse.

Therefore, if they want to defer or to hinder such collapse of US economy, the American government should:

1- Stop the huge annual contributions to Tel Aviv, which act like parasites on the American economy.
2- Make the tremendous Arab and Muslim world to be the friends of America : for making investments and for exporting the goods and industrial and other products of America.
3- Decrease the tremendous military expenditure.
4- Take more taxes from the Zionist lobby and bankers and the owner of the big companies in America.

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B00Mer

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1- Stop the huge annual contributions to Tel Aviv, which act like parasites on the American economy.

More of your Jew hatred..

Only parasite I see here is you, ya goat fukker.

What about you go f*ck your goat!

 

selfsame

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So when you speak with hatred and rancor against Muslims, and you provoke against Muslims ... this is not hatred ... but when I tell the truth and expose the true enemy of America and its economy: the Zionist lobby and bankers you object ..!!
 

B00Mer

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So when you speak with hatred and rancor against Muslims, this is not hared ... but when I tell the truth and expose the true enemy of America and its economy you object ..!!

If you read between the lines or my posts, you will see sometimes I defend Muslims, however the religion Islam itself is backward, anti-Gay, anti-Women rights and unfortunately there are plenty is Muslims who believe in this kind of Islam.

Also, there are the Muslims, Catholics, Protestants that are not really religious nut bars.. moderates.

The reason I think Trump was elected as President was because of the religious right and nutty Christians.

..and your Jew hatred is not the truth.. you are blinded by hatred, or just a stupid, ignorant and a broken person.

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Selfsame, speaking from the heart here...

Life is bigger than Religion.. it's different cultures coming together and not killing each other, rather getting along and living side by side..

Canada offers this, and that is what makes Canada so great.

We have laws in place to protect women, children, homosexuals, different cultures and religions...

Canada is a multicultural country, and we have big hearts offering refugees a chance at a new life.

The World Needs More Canada :canada:

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JLM

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Health Care is largely achieved by prevention first. Prevention is largely achieved by pretty well everything in moderation except physical exercise...............do all you can and increase it in easy stages. Drinking, smoking, eating, resting, sitting should all be done in moderation. Don't sit longer than 20 minutes. Don't worry about stuff you can't do anything about.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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No, YOU are the f**king idiot! You have to have more than two working brain cells to defend criminal cases. You never actually said you defend criminal cases. You just went through a whole pile of rigmarole trying to justify why the most depraved criminal deserves a lawyer who will do everything in his power to get him acquitted of the charge (you obviously didn't give a f**k if the guy goes out and repeats the same crime) contrary to my contention that every accused deserves a FAIR trial and in many cases NOTHING MORE. That is my theory of the defense lawyer's duties. Of course no defense lawyer in the world will agree with me because it f**ks up his bottom line. :) :) :) :)
Best thing I could do to ensure a defendant a fair trial would be to strike you from the jury.
 

JLM

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Best thing I could do to ensure a defendant a fair trial would be to strike you from the jury.


That might not be in the best interest of justice. I would do my damndest to contribute to a FAIR trial...............whether the person gets off or not is beside the point. You vote as you think and let the chips fall where they may.
 

Vbeacher

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Well, no, they don't 'do better health care than anyone', because there are various different systems in Europe.

Okay, but most of them are way better, and all of them are way cheaper than the US system. From a conservative perspective, you don't let your competition have that big an advantage over you - a 30% lower input cost on a major line item. You have to match them. The only way to do that is to use the systems they use. There is no way a private enterprise system is going to be as cheap as a single payer system. Studies have shown there is actually a much higher administration cost in the US private system than in the public systems of Canada and the US. So you not only have a lot more administration costs but the need for advertising/promotion and profit. Not to mention inefficiencies of scale.

No real conservative would support a grossly ineffective, inefficient and costly system as the one in the US.

So when you speak with hatred and rancor against Muslims, and you provoke against Muslims ... this is not hatred ... but when I tell the truth and expose the true enemy of America and its economy: the Zionist lobby and bankers you object ..!!

The difference is your paranoid delusional belief that Jewish bankers rule the world is unsupported by logic, evidence or reality. But the religious violence espoused by and practiced by many Muslims, as well as their retrograde social values are a matter of proven reality.
 

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Another thing worth considering would be to provide cooking classes in all public schools to teach children to cook both vegan and comparatively healthy meat dishes. How are people supposed to cook a healthy meal if they don't know how to cook?

An added bonus of a vegan diet would be cleaner air too.

Maybe impose an animal-husbandry tax on farms that raise animals?
 
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Vbeacher

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Another thing worth considering would be to provide cooking classes in all public schools to teach children to cook both vegan and comparatively healthy meat dishes. How are people supposed to cook a healthy meal if they don't know how to cook.

An added bonus of a vegan diet would be cleaner air too.

Maybe impose an animal-husbandry tax on farms that raise animals?

It's not meat that's the problem. The Europeans eat meat. They're not fat like Americans. Crossed the New York border last month to see Sister and her kid's high school graduation. God, what a school of fatties. It was like whale watching.
 

White_Unifier

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It's not meat that's the problem. The Europeans eat meat. They're not fat like Americans.

It's the quantity of meat. My wife eats meat at every meal (unless I prepare it :)), but she uses it more like a flavouring (typical of much Chinese food preparation) than as a main ingredient. In North America, a slab of meat is often the main ingredient.

Look at Italian or other Mediterranean cuisines, and you'll find something similar. Meat is seldom the main ingredient.

Much Indian cuisine is vegetarian too, and what is not vegetarian again tends to use meat as a flavouring rather than as a main ingredient, butter chicken and a few other dishes being the exceptions.

Chinese cuisine has a few exceptions too, such as red cooked pork, but again, those are not typical of most Chinese dishes.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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It's not meat that's the problem. The Europeans eat meat. They're not fat like Americans. Crossed the New York border last month to see Sister and her kid's high school graduation. God, what a school of fatties. It was like whale watching.
On behalf of my client, the Oceanic Revolutionary Cetacean Association (ORCA), I demand that you immediately retract and apologize for that false and defamatory statement!
 

White_Unifier

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On behalf of my client, the Oceanic Revolutionary Cetacean Association (ORCA), I demand that you immediately retract and apologize for that false and defamatory statement!

You have a point there. A healthy whale is supposed to carry lots of blubber. Don't confuse that with a kid who eats three pork-rib meals a day.