How would Quebec sovereignty affect other nations?

[no1important]

RE: How would Quebec sove

If Quebec plans to seperate are they going to ask a simple straight forward yes or no question? or are they going to use a leading manipulative question like they did last time.

It should be "Do you wish for Quebec to seperate from Canada?" yes or no, plain and simple.

Not a question like 1995----> "Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership within the scope of the bill respecting the future of Quebec and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995?"

 

[s_lone]

Re: RE: How would Quebec sove

If Quebec plans to seperate are they going to ask a simple straight forward yes or no question? or are they going to use a leading manipulative question like they did last time.

It should be "Do you wish for Quebec to seperate from Canada?" yes or no, plain and simple.

Not a question like 1995----> "Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership within the scope of the bill respecting the future of Quebec and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995?"

First, the PQ seems to be heading more and more towards the clarity approach.

Second, I think many rest-of-Canadians overestimate the effect of the not-so-straightforward question asked in 1995. You had to be pretty stupid not to know what you were voting for, especially with Parizeau as prime minister. It was crystal clear that a YES vote was a vote for sovereignty. Only a dimwit wouldn't have known that. I do agree the question should have been more clear, but I don't think the results would have been as different as rest-of-Canadians wish it would have been.

 

[DasFX]

Re: RE: How would Quebec sove

First, the PQ seems to be heading more and more towards the clarity approach.

Second, I think many rest-of-Canadians overestimate the effect of the not-so-straightforward question asked in 1995. You had to be pretty stupid not to know what you were voting for, especially with Parizeau as prime minister. It was crystal clear that a YES vote was a vote for sovereignty. Only a dimwit wouldn't have known that. I do agree the question should have been more clear, but I don't think the results would have been as different as rest-of-Canadians wish it would have been.

It is clear that in a clear question stating total separation, the separatist can't win (now). How do you think the populace would respond to having a referendum called by the Liberals and also posing that in the event of a no vote, that the issue not be opened for at least 50 years? Would the PQ respect such a vote?

 

[s_lone]

Re: RE: How would Quebec sove

First, the PQ seems to be heading more and more towards the clarity approach.

Second, I think many rest-of-Canadians overestimate the effect of the not-so-straightforward question asked in 1995. You had to be pretty stupid not to know what you were voting for, especially with Parizeau as prime minister. It was crystal clear that a YES vote was a vote for sovereignty. Only a dimwit wouldn't have known that. I do agree the question should have been more clear, but I don't think the results would have been as different as rest-of-Canadians wish it would have been.

It is clear that in a clear question stating total separation, the separatist can't win (now). How do you think the populace would respond to having a referendum called by the Liberals and also posing that in the event of a no vote, that the issue not be opened for at least 50 years? Would the PQ respect such a vote?

If the Liberals did such a thing, I actually think the YES side would have a very good chance of winning, especially in the present circumstances when the Gomery commission is still very fresh in our minds. I think Quebecers wouldn't like the idea of being engaged in Canada for 50 years. Your idea is interesting but I don't think it's realist to ask a nation a 50 year engagement in 2005. The world is moving much too fast for that! Compare 1955 with 2005! 50 years ago, Quebecers were only starting to wake up from their religious slumber.

I think 10 years at the most is what the federalsts could ask.

 

[DasFX]

Re: RE: How would Quebec sove

If the Liberals did such a thing, I actually think the YES side would have a very good chance of winning, especially in the present circumstances when the Gomery commission is still very fresh in our minds. I think Quebecers wouldn't like the idea of being engaged in Canada for 50 years. Your idea is interesting but I don't think it's realist to ask a nation a 50 year engagement in 2005. The world is moving much too fast for that! Compare 1955 with 2005! 50 years ago, Quebecers were only starting to wake up from their religious slumber.

I think 10 years at the most is what the federalsts could ask.

Of course now would not be the right time, but if the liberals asked the question the way they wanted where it was about total separation and it was very clear that separation was separation, I think it wouldn't pass and it would hurt the PQ cause in the end that is their goal, they only try to confuse people with all this talk of association and partnership.

10 years is almost an automatic after a no vote. Look how long it is taking the PQ to ask the question again after 1995. I think people could get fed up enough of going through this that they may choose the route of stability for a long period of time rather than this hanging over them all the time.

 

[nimafarid2007]

For the effect on China, in case of seperation, it would probably and hopefully have some positive effect on Xinjiang. (For those who don't know where Xinjiang is, it is an "autonomous region" in northwestern china with a majority of people speaking Uyghur, a turkic language, and being muslim.) These people are trying to get more rights and even seperate from China for a long time.

 

[CDNBear]

Holy Quebec necro threading Batperson!!!

 

[SLM]

Holy Quebec necro threading Batperson!!!

 

[lone wolf]

How many dead Quebec threads does this newb have to resurrect before it gets a religion started??