How to promote the manufacturing sector in Canada?

Machjo

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The thread title says it all. So I'll start with some of my ideas, but please feel free to add your own.

First off, we should sell crown resources (oil, lumber, minerals, etc.) to exploitation companies at a higher price. First off, this would increase government revenue at least on a per-volume or per-wight basis (though granted total revenue could drop should these companies decide not to buy at the new price).

As for disadvantages, it would push the cost of resources up on the market, cost employment in the resource sectors, and, owing to a reduction in the Canadian export of resources (should we exploit less, there will be less to sell obviously) and possibly even an increase in the import of some resources, the value of the Canadian dollar would drop on the world stage.

Now as for the advantages, a devalued Canadian dollar would increase Canadian exports, but since we'd have fewer resources to sell, and those at higher price, foreign buyers would not be looking for deals there, but rather in the manufacturing sectors. Bingo.

Secondly, I'd invest more in education. For instance, why not year-round education for nine years starting at the age of five. And give schools more second-language options beside French or English (depending on what youre first language is in Canada) so as to increase our access to foreign markets. And if you have yer-round schooling for nine years starting at the age of five, then they're likely to be able to graduate from high school by the age of fifteen. So then we could also add to years of universal college education for all so as to ensure all leave school by the age of 18 with a sellable skill for the market. A skilled workforce would also attract manufacturing jobs. I'd also encourage collaboration between ministries of education domestically and internationally to establish common educational standards for various trades and professions so as to ensure our credentials are fully recognized abroad as equal to their own standards.

Thirdly, promote free trade and free labour-movement agreements so as to make Canada more attractive to companeis that need a larger labour and consumer market.

Fourthly, elminate minimum wages so as to not price people out of the job market (besides, with a higher-educated population, minimum wage laws would likely become more redundant anyway). And to protect workers from unreasonable exploitation, introduce codetermination laws.

None of the above is in any particular order, but probably education would be first on the list for me. Also, we should not invest in education by borrowing. Instead, it ought to be improved gradually by either tax increses (for education perhaps a flat x% income tax) and cutting in other areas. Sharing a common military or promoting a common currency with other countries would likely lift some overhead costs too.

Any other ideas?

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe cap and trade woudl be a good way to boost the manufacturing sector. It would essentially achieve the objectives of the first point above concerning the reduction in the exploitation of resources in Canada.
 

cranky

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One way to promote manufacturing in canada, is to start buying products that the chinese sweat shops can not produce.

Ie custom products made to your specification. Tired of buying walmart tshirts that only last 5 washes before they shrink? Start buying shirts from a local seamstress that will last you several years. Buy a good fabric, it is woven in smaller quanities on machines that aren't built to produce the high volume crap that you will find in walmart.
 

Machjo

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One way to promote manufacturing in canada, is to start buying products that the chinese sweat shops can not produce.

Ie custom products made to your specification. Tired of buying walmart tshirts that only last 5 washes before they shrink? Start buying shirts from a local seamstress that will last you several years. Buy a good fabric, it is woven in smaller quanities on machines that aren't built to produce the high volume crap that you will find in walmart.

Easier said than done. First, we need the manufacturing base to do this. And that means a skilled workforce, a mobile workforce, and large consumer market. So a combination of education and open borders is the solution.
 

cranky

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Another way to democratize the manufacturing sector could be by taking an open source technology approach to doing things.

We need to improve rapid prototyping technologies to a point where canadian business can invest in a machine that can "print" 3d products out of plastics to - once again - meet the custom specifications and requirements of a more sophisticated canadian consumer

Another idea....

I don't want to send my HDPE and LDPE to a recycler, instead I want to be able to grind it up and extrude it into round and rectangular stock that I can use to build things around the house with....book shelves,patio furniture, etc

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Another way: instead of bring our products to china, lets bring china to canada, ie lets import a new society of grunt workers, pay they $10 a day to manufacture canadian goods in canada. How does that sound?
 

GreenFish66

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Promote Labour in Canada? ;)................

Another way: instead of bring our products to china, lets bring china to canada, ie lets import a new society of grunt workers, pay they $10 a day to manufacture canadian goods in canada. How does that sound?

Even Better ...Bring workers in from China through temp agencies , make them work upto a year before deciding whether or not to hire them ...Then put them on contract with no benefits...

That'll promote the manufacturing sector in Canada...

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Machjo

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Honestly, I'd have no qualms about establishing some kind of free labour movement agreement with China on condition that the workers know the local language. This would limit Chinese workers to Canada to those who know eitehr English or French, and Canadians working in China to those who know Chinese. This would avoid translation and interpretation costs in the workforce. At the same time, it would attract companies owing to their access to a larger labour pool to choose from.

As for low wages, codetermination laws woudl solve that problem since should workers be forced to negotiate salary reductions, they'd force the same onto management too. So we can guarantee that management and workers would be on the same team here.
 

GreenFish66

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To bad we didn't have A Set/Agreed upon, Labour Force To Owner , Employee - Employer Wage Pyramid/Spectrum/Ratio/Act/Agreement/Contract/Law, to go by?
 

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GreenFish66

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Are you referring to codetermination laws:

Co-determination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Though there are variations on codetermination, perhaps the German model would be a good one to go by:

Codetermination in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Not bad Macho..
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What?..you mean there's laws that Dictate Fair/Living wages?..like $12-14 an hour?....

What about, Including A Fair Wage Pyramid/A Visible,Transparent Wage Spectrum/ Wage Percentage Ratio....Showing what everyone Earns/Makes, why, and how they got there .....From Top to Bottom, Bottom to Top Earner ? ( Including Education, Acheivements and Disciplinary actions..)

Transparency and Accountability ....

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Together as 1 whole( not in the hole)

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Are Zombie Slave Drones...

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weaselwords

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Since "free trade" has become the mantra in the manufacturing sector the Cdn "branch plant" has become a thing of the past. Sure we still have auto & auto parts, tire & other specialized industries in Canada. However we've lost much more than we've gained as far as manufacturing goes in "free trade". Where have the appliance, canning, clothing & textile and innumerable other industries gone. We should back off "free trade" and import tariffs should be introduced at the same time eliminate income tax for annual incomes to 50K per person per family. Do away with the HST/GST and an all encompassing consumption tax should be introduced @ 3% Fed + whatever prov deems fit.
 

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Two things that would encourage manufacturing in Canada is to cut the high cost of government involvement in running a business and high wages like the auto workers get. Not sure about Ontario but in B.C. the sawmills left for these two reasons. The union wage demands outstripped the companies ability to compete globally. The total wage cost in Washington is at least $10/hr less than B.C. The government factor is a combination of too many taxing authorities and the high cost of compliance with a myriad of often conflicting rules and regulations by various self interested agencies and permits for everything from foreshore leases to water usage fees.
 

cranky

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simple.....eliminate the importance of labour costs.

We could do this with a mountain of protectionist schemes, but that doesn't work so well in today's global economy.

Instead, we need to change the consumer. get them to want to buy custom made product that the chinese won't be able to compete with. We need to develop manufacturers that establish flexability and inovation from it's better educated people, yet we need to have productivity and profitability linked to automated machinery instead of labour.
 

petros

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With 150 some free trade deals in the works, we aren't going to be producing anything other than raw goods for quite some time.