How the GW myth is perpetuated

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I thought (and originally attributed) the words in that article to this Lord Stern Guy.
Two of the three Dogs above are mine. I might just be going to Environmental Hell.

We know now a bit more about how the deniers' myths are perpetuated.
 

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My "Oh?" was on the word " denier's " and I had to check and make sure I wasn't
posting in a Religion SubForum. Better a denier than a heretic, I guess. Extremists
to one side or the other (This Lord Stern Guy, not anyone here) in most Threads
(on Religion or Politics or this....) sort'a give me the heeby-geebies. There's always
two sides to a story, and it's a necessary function, specifically in a scientific debate.
 

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If you look so innocent, it is because Lord requires that animals as pets be loved by humans. It was the gods whom originally require from humans that they domesticate animals so that they can have readily familiar surrogates to perform sacrifices.
If you believe gods exist or care, I suppose.
Personally I don't think if they exist that they give a hoot about what goes on with the 3rd rock. So, IMO, the religious reason for having pets is just goofy.
I eat my chickens. Eating them is a practical reason for having them. Same with the deer, elk, etc. that wander about this neighborhood. I love them all and I love eating some of them.
Anyway, I'll leave it up to the news media, deniers of fact, religions, etc. to perpetuate myths. :D
 

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If you believe gods exist or care, I suppose.
Personally I don't think if they exist that they give a hoot about what goes on with the 3rd rock. So, IMO, the religious reason for having pets is just goofy.
I eat my chickens. Eating them is a practical reason for having them. Same with the deer, elk, etc. that wander about this neighborhood. I love them all and I love eating some of them.
Anyway, I'll leave it up to the news media, deniers of fact, religions, etc. to perpetuate myths. :D

Our ancestors were not so flat.
 

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Gore Gone Wild: Predicts 220 Foot Sea Level Rise in 10 years

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The scariest story told this Halloween week had nothing to do with ghosts, goblins, or zombies, though it was certainly dripping with huge gobs of Gore. In fact -- the most terrifying words screeched in the past seven days came from the master of environmental horror himself.

According to Arab Internet services company Maktoob.com, our favorite greenhouse gasbag spent Tuesday afternoon outlining the reasons why attendees of the Leaders in Dubai Business Forum must change their wicked gas-guzzling ways:
“The North Pole ice cap is 40 percent gone already and could be completely and totally gone in the winter months in the next 5 to 10 years.”

Such thaw, cautioned Gore, “could increase sea levels by 67 metres” and that “each one metre of sea level rise (SLR) is associated with 100 million climate refugees in the world.” That’s up a full 47 meters from the already horrifying predictions he’s made previously.
 

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Maybe someone should tell AlGore the ice is floating, if it melted the sea level would fall. I wonder if he's talking about metres or meters.

Maybe he should give up this AGW thingy and run for president, he would do much better.
 

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Gore Gone Wild: Predicts 220 Foot Sea Level Rise in 10 years

Marc Sheppard

The scariest story told this Halloween week had nothing to do with ghosts, goblins, or zombies, though it was certainly dripping with huge gobs of Gore. In fact -- the most terrifying words screeched in the past seven days came from the master of environmental horror himself.

According to Arab Internet services company Maktoob.com, our favorite greenhouse gasbag spent Tuesday afternoon outlining the reasons why attendees of the Leaders in Dubai Business Forum must change their wicked gas-guzzling ways:
“The North Pole ice cap is 40 percent gone already and could be completely and totally gone in the winter months in the next 5 to 10 years.”

Such thaw, cautioned Gore, “could increase sea levels by 67 metres” and that “each one metre of sea level rise (SLR) is associated with 100 million climate refugees in the world.” That’s up a full 47 meters from the already horrifying predictions he’s made previously.
So? Gore's environmentally challenged. I thought people had accepted that a long time ago.
 

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Maybe you should know that temperature is a proxy physical concept for atoms not being able to stay close together.
0º K is a temperature and atoms have no choice as to proximity. Or did you mean higher "temperature is a proxy physical concept for atoms not being able to stay close together" ?
 

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Except, water (being the strange thing that it is) has a greater volume as a
solid than it does as a liquid.

Fill a glass bottle to the top, cap it, & put it in your freezer. What happens?
 

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Except, water (being the strange thing that it is) has a greater volume as a
solid than it does as a liquid.

Fill a glass bottle to the top, cap it, & put it in your freezer. What happens?

Look at the largeness of clouds, water has also a gas state.
 

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Coldness means smaller volume (and smaller oceans means lower oceans).


Except, water (being the strange thing that it is) has a greater volume as a
solid than it does as a liquid.

Fill a glass bottle to the top, cap it, & put it in your freezer. What happens?


Look at the largeness of clouds, water has also a gas state.


Huh? The "largeness of clouds has what to to with the anomalous property of water having a
larger volume when frozen compared to its liquid state? I guess I got lost when you said,
Coldness means smaller volume (and smaller oceans means lower oceans).
My mistake.
 

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The larger volume of ice compared to water is irrelevant since ice can stay and is standing out of the oceans by itself (without the help of a land barrier).
 

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Epistemology has given birth recently to a new conception of reality that is making looks naively idealistic the prevalent materialistic conception of the Universe. In a nutshell, I think we can summarize this new conception, with regard to AGW, by simply saying that humans (and all life forms in general, although to a lesser extent) are fatally attracted to everything that is spherical. So, at the most fundamental level, an increase of temperature is lethal for humans (and again for all life forms in general, although to a lesser extent) because it will make the Earth looks a bit more spherical.
 
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