How many Gods do you believe in?

[AnnaG]

Until God personally appears to me, I'm not believing it. Allah, God, Zeus, Thor, Ra, any God(s) or Goddess(es) don't exist until proven.

That's my take on everything. I'll believe in ogres, fairies, trolls, dragons, and aliens, if you show me evidence.

No evidence = nothing.

Yup. We've heard that explanation for having the opinion, too.

 

[AnnaG]

AnnaG, why is all this refusal and denial?

I simply think it is silly to pay attention to gods when they obviously pay no attention to us. There's no evidence that said gods created anything. There is only words that say this.

I am sorry and very much sad; why someone chooses to disobey God Most Gracious Who bestows on him or her every blessing and grace? :-(

That sounds like a personal problem.

So while I gave you some examples that even such a chair and car are human made; then how could it be that the universe with all its marvels and wonders come to existence spontaneously without any Maker?

You sure are obtuse. I was talking about origins of life. And as far as the rest of the universe is concerned, there's no evidence it ever had a beginning so, IMO, the universe always existed and will never end.

Why should any intelligent woman or man choose to be against his future: in the afterlife? :-(

Fine then. My future is going to be riding horses, eating tasty foods, enjoying sexy people, being with my family and friends forever. The proof of this existence is that I say it is true.

Sadness and grief is much :-( for anyone who does not choose to guaranty for herself or himself a happy future? Why choose she or he the misery and chastisement and punishment and suffering for being against God Most Gracious who gives them respite and give them much time to reflect and consider ?:shaking:

:roll:

 

[AnnaG]

AnnaG, about the swearing according to the Quran, I may tell about it later on.

I already did. Save your breath.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Until God personally appears to me, I'm not believing it. Allah, God, Zeus, Thor, Ra, any God(s) or Goddess(es) don't exist until proven.

That's my take on everything. I'll believe in ogres, fairies, trolls, dragons, and aliens, if you show me evidence.

No evidence = nothing.

I remember this from All in the Family.

Mike: In other words Arch, I will believe in God when I get to Heaven.

Archie: If I see you there, I will know that I am in the other place.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Hi Liberalman; now you look like Alain Delon :smile:
Liberally thinking and contemplating :smile:

So you want to meet Him on the other side? None saw God Who is Invisible, but yet His wonders are there everywhere.

Not meet him, but meet her on the other side.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Let us assume for a minute that there was a creator that caused the Universe. Such a being would be great indeed, maybe even all powerful. On an insignificant speck of dust in all this vast creation evolved a species that walks on two legs and is just an even less significant a species as that speck of dust. Baffled by it own insignificance in such a vast and unimaginable thing as the Universe, this species invents a supreme being that actually cares about this species feelings of insignificance.

It says to this species, look how great I am. I created the Universe, so you must bow down and praise my greatness every day or I will make your life miserable... and you know I can do that because I created the Universe. So, get busy kissing my butt.

This god sounds far to human, far to egotistical and insecure to be for real. Only someone who thinks they are important would believe in a god who thinks they are important. But feeling superior to others is usually an over compensation for feelings of inadequacy.

Why would a supreme being demand we praise its greatness unless it felt inadequate? The whole concept of such a god is just plain ludicrous. Only a human could have invented it. Only an inadequate species could feel the need for such a flawed and degenerate god.

Quite so, Cliffy. I have always held that Christian or Muslim God comes across as some kind of Latin American, tin pot dictator. Do what I tell you to or I will kill you. Except that God is worse than a dictator. A dictator like Saddam or Pinochet will kill you if you don’t obey him. God will torture you for eternity.