How long will this government last?
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RE: How long will this go
At least until the liberals choose another leader.
I guess it's all up to the bloc, and that will depend on whether harper delivers on his promise to address the fiscal imbalance in the next budget. The only other possibility I can think of is that the conservatives do something else to upset the bloc, like going to war in...let's say...iran.
At least until the liberals choose another leader.
I guess it's all up to the bloc, and that will depend on whether harper delivers on his promise to address the fiscal imbalance in the next budget. The only other possibility I can think of is that the conservatives do something else to upset the bloc, like going to war in...let's say...iran.
Re: RE: How long will this go
I think full term, especially if the poll numbers keep going up and he continues to govern as he campaigned and keeps all his promises.
gc said:
I think full term, especially if the poll numbers keep going up and he continues to govern as he campaigned and keeps all his promises.
RE: How long will this go
Well, there is really two things that can happen.
One, the Conservatives can continue to govern well and keep their promises and keep the support of the Bloc Quebecois. That will keep the Conservative poll numbers high and the Liberal numbers low, so Harper will have a full term because the Liberals won't want to trigger an election.
The other way this could go is that the Bloc Quebecois (could ditch the Conservatives), the NDP and the Liberals (with their new leader) could team up, bring down the government and go into an election sometime in early 2007.
Well, there is really two things that can happen.
One, the Conservatives can continue to govern well and keep their promises and keep the support of the Bloc Quebecois. That will keep the Conservative poll numbers high and the Liberal numbers low, so Harper will have a full term because the Liberals won't want to trigger an election.
The other way this could go is that the Bloc Quebecois (could ditch the Conservatives), the NDP and the Liberals (with their new leader) could team up, bring down the government and go into an election sometime in early 2007.
RE: How long will this go
Harper will be in office as long as he delivers on his promises. The bloc, will have said they will support the government, unless special circumstances, until the budget for 2007. That is when the conservative put the date line to start solving the fiscal imbalance.
If too little or nothing is done by then, they will go down. And Harper won't come back with a majority. The issue of fiscal imbalance is the number 1 priority to Québécors.
Harper will be in office as long as he delivers on his promises. The bloc, will have said they will support the government, unless special circumstances, until the budget for 2007. That is when the conservative put the date line to start solving the fiscal imbalance.
If too little or nothing is done by then, they will go down. And Harper won't come back with a majority. The issue of fiscal imbalance is the number 1 priority to Québécors.
RE: How long will this go
Hmmm, I'm not as optimistic. If the Liberals hold a decent leadership race, where all candidates condemn the past liberal corruption (while of course claiming they had no hand in it) And select one of their big names - especially Ignatieff, they will start to see polls rise.
At this point they will engineer a defeat on something, defence spending, same sex marriages, etc whatever topic of the day is relatively divisive.
My prediction is as early as spring 2007 as late as fall 2007.
Hmmm, I'm not as optimistic. If the Liberals hold a decent leadership race, where all candidates condemn the past liberal corruption (while of course claiming they had no hand in it) And select one of their big names - especially Ignatieff, they will start to see polls rise.
At this point they will engineer a defeat on something, defence spending, same sex marriages, etc whatever topic of the day is relatively divisive.
My prediction is as early as spring 2007 as late as fall 2007.
Re: RE: How long will this go
It has nothing to do with what the liberals want, they don't have the numbers to bring them down on their own, or with the NDP. It all depends on the bloc and how long the conservatives can keep the support of the bloc.
Vicious said:
It has nothing to do with what the liberals want, they don't have the numbers to bring them down on their own, or with the NDP. It all depends on the bloc and how long the conservatives can keep the support of the bloc.
I agree the Bloc is the important party in this. But I don't see any Liberal candidate that would strike fear into conservative hearts. Actually, I'm cheering for Volpe, then we could have a lot more years of Conservative rule.
Go, Joe, Go!!!!! :lol:
Go, Joe, Go!!!!! :lol:
Re: Life Span of Tory Government
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:arrow: Life Span of the Tory Government
This is a tough question, to be honest; if the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada, is honest in saying that he doesn't think that prime ministers should have the prerogative to end any particular Parliament of Canada on a whim, then the dissolution of this Thirty-ninth Parliament of Canada is going to have to be on the initiative of the opposition parties.
Given this situation, I don't think that Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition is going to make any moves to push for the defeat of this Government of Canada until after the Liberal Party of Canada has chosen a new leader; the Bloc Québécois is going to support this Government for as long as they can do so without tarnishing their own image, due to close numbers between themselves and the Government in the Province of Québec. As for the New Democratic Party of Canada, I can't see them having as much patience with the Conservative Party of Canada as they had had with the previous Government of Canada.
I would think that we are going to see the Fortieth General Election within a year.
:arrow: FiveParadox is Back!
Hey, everyone!
Back from my treatments, and things are looking good. The starter scans taken since the treatment show no trace, so once I have the more comprehensive scans next weekend, I am clear! I hope everyone enjoyed their few days without me — because trust me, hiatuses like that from me are going to be few, and far between! I could not bare to let this place go without colours for too long, now could I? That would be nothing short of dereliction of duty!
:arrow: Life Span of the Tory Government
This is a tough question, to be honest; if the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada, is honest in saying that he doesn't think that prime ministers should have the prerogative to end any particular Parliament of Canada on a whim, then the dissolution of this Thirty-ninth Parliament of Canada is going to have to be on the initiative of the opposition parties.
Given this situation, I don't think that Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition is going to make any moves to push for the defeat of this Government of Canada until after the Liberal Party of Canada has chosen a new leader; the Bloc Québécois is going to support this Government for as long as they can do so without tarnishing their own image, due to close numbers between themselves and the Government in the Province of Québec. As for the New Democratic Party of Canada, I can't see them having as much patience with the Conservative Party of Canada as they had had with the previous Government of Canada.
I would think that we are going to see the Fortieth General Election within a year.
RE: How long will this go
Hellow Five nice to see some colour back in your cheeks and
you seem to be decently chipper. I hope you're right about the election.
Hellow Five nice to see some colour back in your cheeks and
you seem to be decently chipper. I hope you're right about the election.
Re: Life Span of This Government
I think that the Conservative Party of Canada is going to continue to govern for the Fortieth Parliament of Canada, provided that the Government of Canada is defeated on its motion to re-open the same-sex marriage issue (une motion qui, si adoptée, détruirait le Gouvernement à la prochaine élection dans la province du Québec). If this Government wishes to achieve a majority within the next one or two Parliaments, then Québec is going to need to be a major supporter — and some of the right-wing ideas being furthered in the House of Commons, in conjunction with the highly unsupported-in-Québec mission in the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, are not going to help them in this endeavour.
I think that the Conservative Party of Canada is going to continue to govern for the Fortieth Parliament of Canada, provided that the Government of Canada is defeated on its motion to re-open the same-sex marriage issue (une motion qui, si adoptée, détruirait le Gouvernement à la prochaine élection dans la province du Québec). If this Government wishes to achieve a majority within the next one or two Parliaments, then Québec is going to need to be a major supporter — and some of the right-wing ideas being furthered in the House of Commons, in conjunction with the highly unsupported-in-Québec mission in the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, are not going to help them in this endeavour.
Re: Life Span of This Government
same sex won't be a confidence vote will it?
Harper's going to have to deliver on his Kyoto replacement and equalization before the next election. Duceppe is just biding his time. Everything else is chickenscratch.
FiveParadox said:
same sex won't be a confidence vote will it?
Harper's going to have to deliver on his Kyoto replacement and equalization before the next election. Duceppe is just biding his time. Everything else is chickenscratch.
Re: Life Span of the Tories
However, if the motion to re-open the same-sex marriage issue is passed, and the issue is again dragged through the House of Commons, I would suggest that the resurrection of that contentious issue would cause support for this Government of Canada to evapourate in the Province of Québec in quite short order.
I think that Gilles Duceppe, M.P., the Member for Laurier—Sainte-Marie and the Leader of the Bloc Québécois, is hoping that an issue comes up on which he could declare his lack of support for the Government in a rather dramatic fashion. If Mr. Duceppe goes into an election campaign waging war on the lack of environment strategy on the part of the Conservative Party of Canada, and hounding other matters such as right-wing social policy, I think that the Tories would risk being crushed by the Bloc Québécois.
I doubt that very much.[i said:
However, if the motion to re-open the same-sex marriage issue is passed, and the issue is again dragged through the House of Commons, I would suggest that the resurrection of that contentious issue would cause support for this Government of Canada to evapourate in the Province of Québec in quite short order.
I agree with your assessment of the present situation.[i said:
I think that Gilles Duceppe, M.P., the Member for Laurier—Sainte-Marie and the Leader of the Bloc Québécois, is hoping that an issue comes up on which he could declare his lack of support for the Government in a rather dramatic fashion. If Mr. Duceppe goes into an election campaign waging war on the lack of environment strategy on the part of the Conservative Party of Canada, and hounding other matters such as right-wing social policy, I think that the Tories would risk being crushed by the Bloc Québécois.
BitWhys said:
The party is crawling with communists .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism-Leninism
They think there the elete and don't give a rats ass about the worker anymore.It"s definitely not the party Ed Broadbent lead.
I liked Ed,at least he could compromise on some issues.The party now does nothing but complain and should just fold and join the Liberals.
What's the difference between Liberals and NDP ?
I lost all respect for Jack when he propped up that sleaze bag librano paul martin and the rest of those lying pieces of dog feces.