How important is political experience in the run for elected office?

[CBC News]

The question of political experience has become a catch phrase during the U.S. presidential election.
Both the Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama have both been accused of lacking experience.
Last night's address at the Republican convention by Sarah Palin followed a fiery speech by former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, who slammed Obama for his lack of experience.
"He is the least experienced candidate for the president of the United States in at least the last 100 years. This is not a personal attack. It's a statement of fact — Barack Obama has never led anything. Nothing. Nada," Giuliani told a screaming crowd.
Palin also took aim at Obama over questions raised about her experience.
"Since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves," she said in the prepared text of her speech, taking aim at Obama, who worked as a community organizer in Chicago as a young man.
"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a 'community organizer,' except that you have actual responsibilities."
What do you think? How important is political experience in the run for elected office?



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[darkbeaver]

Political experience in the western world involves the basest human individuals of the least moral and ethical qualities who have sold thier principles long before offering thier vile selves for public office. The experience is nothing more than total capitulation to the fascist paradigm and total obediance to the elite banking scum,and the mission of full spectrum domination. The CBC has become fully corrupted, a despicable pack of gut eating curs following at the heels of the wealthy elite, licking every rotten piece of meat that falls from thier filthy plates. I listen to your morning blow "The Current", it's hard to hold my breakfast down while you interview the scum of the American stink tanks and a motely selection of corporate bagmen. You have no shame and no guts, you're worthless lying pieces of dung.

 

[missile]

Question? Would you hire someone off the street to rob a bank or do a hit on someone? No! You need the experience to know who to bribe and where the funds are to steal...yes, I mean a pro politician[lower than the slime on the ground] In a democracy,tho, the amateur pol should have the same opportunities to rob us as the experienced ones do now.

 

[Avro]

I'd sell the CBC to the highest private bidder. No need for the tax payers to fund a biased lefty news network.

 

[missile]

Can't argue with you on that one:smile: Although the only value is the space on the airwaves it occupies,most all the content is worthless!

 

[darkbeaver]

I'd sell the CBC to the highest private bidder. No need for the tax payers to fund a biased lefty news network.

Of course you would Avro because that's your answer to everything, I would like to be a fly on the wall when your private sector buddies get arround to eating you, and they will.:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

Weather or not news and information is private or public is not the issue it's the reliability of the information that determines it's value. In the case of the CBC in particular and all the other main stream western news and information media that reliability is extinct. As an example, the gravity of the recent Georgian conflict and the details as presented through these corrupt organs is for the greatest part pure rubbish when it isn't pure inciting propaganda and we could add the complete failure to impress upon the public the dire and proceeding end of capitalism as we have lived it.Even the rates of inflation and unemployment are false as reported.
News, you ain't getting any, horse****, all you can stomach, and it would seem that the average N American has a bottomless appetite for it.

 

[talloola]

The first, and most normal reaction when being told of a happening in the world, is to
'believe' it, that is a basic ingredient in our makeup, is to trust others. Of course, we
have learned throughout our lives that, it isn't always so, and the politicians apparantly are
very corrupt and insincere, and do what they need to do, for themselves.
That is the first step to our helplessness, and now, we have to judge those who lead our
country by their results, which satisfy the wealthy, and the rhetoric they send out, which
seems good for our future, but never seems to happen.
We have no power to do anything else, but have a revolution, and no canadian is ever going to do that, our lives are too comfortable, so we settle for what we can get from
them, as, when we look around the world, our lives are good, compared to others, and
we don't want to complaign, and seem ungrateful.
Don't think anything much will change, and we have no way of changing it anyway.

I like the idea of someone who isn't deep within the washington system to become
president, and Obama definitely fits that profile.
I'm always telling everyone to remember John F. Kennedy, who had no experience
other than being a senetor, probably a little longer than Obama, but not much
different in the experience catagorie, Kennedy's family was so well know, that seemed
to make the difference, he also had military experience, but I will never agree that,
killing others, and defending yourself is a positive ingredient for being president, possibly
a military general, could have a little more knowledge of wars, to take into the white house
but no one else, especially someone who spent years laying around suffering as a prisoner,
is that a prerequisite for president, no, just a prerequisite for bad health in the future.
I would like to see Obama 'have a chance', as that is the only way we can find out if he
is 'different' or not, or even has the 'power' to make changes.
Yes, this campaign is trying to fool all of the american people once again, by siting
Obama as being far too 'green', and not able to handle the job.
Use your heads everyone, and don't take the bait, 'once again'.

It doesn't really matter with Palin, she won't be president, oh oh, wait a minute,
how old is McCain, and how healthy is he? Maybe the people better think twice.
It is all a game with them, they brought Palin aboard to confuse everyone, as now
there is two people with 'less' experience,than all of the people who caused the war,
and killed so many, including over 4000 of their own. Hmmm, think about that.

 

[Avro]

Of course you would Avro because that's your answer to everything, I would like to be a fly on the wall when your private sector buddies get arround to eating you, and they will.:lol:

No it's not.

I believe in public health care, public education, public transit......just not a biased public broadcaster.

Eat me? Man are you ever a delusional loser.

 

[darkbeaver]

No it's not.

I believe in public health care, public education, public transit......just not a biased public broadcaster.

Eat me? Man are you ever a delusional loser.

Well Avro aftr all this time why am I surprised to hear about the real you? Your communications dept needs a kick in the head. Why don't you drop the immature little insults it's unbecoming. Public education and public information and public communications are the same thing. Do you consider a public broardcaster to be biased toward the public? I'll agree that they should present the facts and only the facts even if that's as dry as toast, and if I could trust a private firm to do that I would have no hesitation in supporting them with my money in fact if you do have the money you can get factual analysis of every concievable subject but that ability is far out of reach for most of us therefore we're well and truely ****ed.

 

[darkbeaver]

Obama's going to disappoint you Talloola. He is very deeply embedded in the concrete of Washintion Politics, just look as his advisors and his staff, he's fresh by no means and as you know I think it's impossible to get to where he is without complete capitulation to the machine.These behind the curtain power people don't gamble especially when the purchase price is cheap.

 

[talloola]

Obama's going to disappoint you Talloola. He is very deeply embedded in the concrete of Washintion Politics, just look as his advisors and his staff, he's fresh by no means and as you know I think it's impossible to get to where he is without complete capitulation to the machine.These behind the curtain power people don't gamble especially when the purchase price is cheap.

There is no other route to 'go' to get there, when he is there, he can show eveyone
who he is, and what he is going to do, getting there is 'impossible' without going the
route he is going, you know that, anyone with the attitude you are looking for, would
not get past 1st base, so, I will hope that he is 'so' smart, that he knows how to use 'them'
to get there, and then show 'us', who he really is.
We'll see won't we, and if, when there, he can't possibly enforce any of his own beliefs,
then we are all 'buggered' aren't we, and it's best if we 'just' don't think about it any more. Just, go and work in the garden and talk to the worms.;-)

 

[Praxius]

Experience comes with time, and the younger you are, the more able you are to absorb and learn new ideas and processes.

To me, I couldn't care less about experience, to me it has to do with plans, objectives, what the person plans to do, not what they did do.

However, when one talks about what they plan to do and it contradicts what they have already done, then that has to be accounted for. Obama doesn't have a big list of screwups and things tarnishing his reputation, so the Republicans have to attack his experience..... yet when the Republicans talk about change, who have already a good list of things contradicting what they plan on doing and have very little to offer when it comes to change that the majority of Americans want, then that to me does more damage to them then Obama's lack of experience damaging his chances.

The Republicans are planning more of the same, while the Democrats plan on trying to do a 180. I know the same old tactics of the Republicans can not get the US out of the hole they currently are in, and certainly won't improve their standing in the world.....

Obama may not have loads of experience under his belt, but his popularity across the world will counter his lack of experience, as many around the world see him as someone who will actually listen and might actually make the right decisions.

As it goes for the bottom line in regards to the rest of the world's perspective, Obama wins out for not agreeing on the War of Iraq. That may not work within the US, but more of the same for another 4-8 years will only endanger the US's security even further, and isolate them further from the rest of the world.

It's already started.

 

[Praxius]

Political experience in the western world involves the basest human individuals of the least moral and ethical qualities who have sold thier principles long before offering thier vile selves for public office. The experience is nothing more than total capitulation to the fascist paradigm and total obediance to the elite banking scum,and the mission of full spectrum domination. The CBC has become fully corrupted, a despicable pack of gut eating curs following at the heels of the wealthy elite, licking every rotten piece of meat that falls from thier filthy plates. I listen to your morning blow "The Current", it's hard to hold my breakfast down while you interview the scum of the American stink tanks and a motely selection of corporate bagmen. You have no shame and no guts, you're worthless lying pieces of dung.

Dark.... how bout you tell us how you really feel, lol (Sarcasm)

 

[darkbeaver]

There is no other route to 'go' to get there, when he is there, he can show eveyone
who he is, and what he is going to do, getting there is 'impossible' without going the
route he is going, you know that, anyone with the attitude you are looking for, would
not get past 1st base, so, I will hope that he is 'so' smart, that he knows how to use 'them'
to get there, and then show 'us', who he really is.
We'll see won't we, and if, when there, he can't possibly enforce any of his own beliefs,
then we are all 'buggered' aren't we, and it's best if we 'just' don't think about it any more. Just, go and work in the garden and talk to the worms.;-)

There is no viable alternative to revolution. The world can't wait for a truely benevolent politician to come through the modern sieve of corporate acceptability. Men and women of those sizes have been excluded by a much finer mesh in this century, those that have substance are excluded.

How is your garden this year? Mine's gotten mixed reviews but it'll feed the crew for the winter. In general farms and farmers have been hit very severely by rain here in Nova Scotia, the disaster word is being used, I spoke to a farmer this past weekend and he said " no one in this county will get grain off the fields except as silage and then only if we get two weeks of sun" much of the vegetable crops are unsalvageable as well and I think the situation is worse in PEI. It really is very serious.

 

[Praxius]

Weather or not news and information is private or public is not the issue it's the reliability of the information that determines it's value. In the case of the CBC in particular and all the other main stream western news and information media that reliability is extinct. As an example, the gravity of the recent Georgian conflict and the details as presented through these corrupt organs is for the greatest part pure rubbish when it isn't pure inciting propaganda and we could add the complete failure to impress upon the public the dire and proceeding end of capitalism as we have lived it.Even the rates of inflation and unemployment are false as reported.
News, you ain't getting any, horse****, all you can stomach, and it would seem that the average N American has a bottomless appetite for it.

Ok, I was going along for a bit.... and some of what you say I agree with.....

..... but I have to ask.... what does this have to do with the question presented?

Does Experience matter when Running for Office? Yes/No and Why......

Then you go on a banter about CBC and the corrupt media.... what does that have to do with anything?

 

[talloola]

Obama may not have loads of experience under his belt, but his popularity across the world will counter his lack of experience, as many around the world see him as someone who will actually listen and might actually make the right decisions.

As it goes for the bottom line in regards to the rest of the world's perspective, Obama wins out for not agreeing on the War of Iraq. That may not work within the US, but more of the same for another 4-8 years will only endanger the US's security even further, and isolate them further from the rest of the world.

It's already started.

The above is very true, but it seems that the american people don't particularly think
about the horrible mistakes of the Iraq war, so I don't think it will work in the U.S.,
with the exception of the 'young' who do see what we see, and they can also see
themselves being killed in the future, if the same ole same ole continues.
But, the young 'evangelical christians' will be in opposition to the young on the other
side, so each, might eliminate the other, which leaves the old evangelical christians,
who were responsible for electing Bush, 'yuk'.

 

[#juan]

I'd sell the CBC to the highest private bidder. No need for the tax payers to fund a biased lefty news network.

Oh Yeah. Let's have all the news in this country controlled by foreigners. The CBC is not a "biased lefty network" They have been just as hard on the Liberals as they have on the PCs.
It sounds like you have no idea what the CBC is and the services that the CBC provides that the private networks wouldn't touch. The CBC broadcasts in at least eight native languages as well as English and French. We could never replace those services with private networks.

 

[Avro]

Well Avro aftr all this time why am I surprised to hear about the real you? Your communications dept needs a kick in the head. Why don't you drop the immature little insults it's unbecoming. Public education and public information and public communications are the same thing. Do you consider a public broardcaster to be biased toward the public? I'll agree that they should present the facts and only the facts even if that's as dry as toast, and if I could trust a private firm to do that I would have no hesitation in supporting them with my money in fact if you do have the money you can get factual analysis of every concievable subject but that ability is far out of reach for most of us therefore we're well and truely ****ed.

I've stated these things before beave, you obviously ingnored them and saw only my hatred of communism. Intersting how your mood changes when I list some lefty things I support.

Immature insults? You do it all the time to any one who dosen't sucribe to your totalitarin rants, if you can't take it syop dishing it comrade.

Public broadcasters shouldn't be biased....the end.

Private broadcasters can do what ever they want, they own it.

If the CBC were politialy neutral I'd keep it, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Praxius]

There is no viable alternative to revolution. The world can't wait for a truely benevolent politician to come through the modern sieve of corporate acceptability. Men and women of those sizes have been excluded by a much finer mesh in this century, those that have substance are excluded.

I'm actually starting to think that this election is the US's last chance to maintain what they currently have. If either the Democrats or Republicans get into office and things do not improve, or even get worse then it is now.... the sh*t is going to hit the fan and if there are not riots.... there will be a form of a revolution.

Whether or not it will take off before being crushed and labeled as "Home Grown Terrorists" or even if the US Citizens even have the heart and balls to stand up and revolt, remains to be seen.... but humans can only bitch and moan for so long before action must be taken.

Everybody I've talked to in the US have just responded "Well Bush will be gone soon and we'll be voting in someone better." ~ They wait for the election as a solution to their problems. They put up with all that is happening and they expect drastic changes to occur due to a new president coming into office....... but what happens when change doesn't happen? What if it's 4 more years of the same, or worse?

What are they going to do then? Wait for the next election and hope for the best again?

I know I wouldn't.