How Immigrants View Canada

[Said1]

Re: RE: How Immigrants View Canada

People around the world have mostly come to the conclusion that whatever the American Dream may have been, is farce now. Atleast here in Europe, the general idea is that the US is not the place to go, not even on vacation.

You have to admit, Andem that although the US accpets more immigrants than any other country, many folks who are unsuccessful in immigrating to the US fall back on their second choice, which is Canada.

That's only because Canada does not possess climates that mimic those found in Africa, Mexico, and the Middle East. It's purely a matter of tempurature.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: How Immigrants View Canada

People around the world have mostly come to the conclusion that whatever the American Dream may have been, is farce now. Atleast here in Europe, the general idea is that the US is not the place to go, not even on vacation.

You have to admit, Andem that although the US accpets more immigrants than any other country, many folks who are unsuccessful in immigrating to the US fall back on their second choice, which is Canada.

and the condescending point is????

Ya know.......if people WANT to come here, and do so through proper channels and accomodate to our way of life (assimilate)......FINE. Not a problem. They are welcome and diversity is a treasure. Now if they don't or wish to whine, bitch, complain and compare .... then do us all a favor and stay the heck out of here and go to America. No one is forcing anyone to come here, live here or stay here. Don't like it??? get the feck out.....and go south ......and follow the American "dream" /FANTASY .

We have the good fortune and common sense to be grounded in reality and can differentiate dreams from fantasies.

To those the come, wish to come.....and are willing to adapt to our lifestyle etc and work to wards making Canada a continuing progressive nation.........the welcome mat is out for ya. :canada:


not sure why the feck .....the USers have to make everything a damned contest. Almost sounds like developemental penis envy. (ya know, : mine is bigger/better than yours). Will be interesting to see what "america " looks like when it actually matures. :roll:

btw: there is no need to "defend" Canada.........as CA stands on its own merit ........or lack of. It speaks for itself......and all the verbal defending is just going to politicize something that does not have to be tarnished that way.

"he who protests too much"....(and all that)

 

[Nascar_James]

funny innit? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I just heard that canada's ecomony is booming, the interest rates are going up 8O yours however is in da tank....shove your bragging up you cheddar :wink: I will go find a link about it tho. :wink:

Well, Peapod as long as Canada's taxes keep staying higher and Canada's unemployment rate stays higher, the top choice for immigrants will continue to be the USA.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How Immigrants View C

By 0.1% according to the statistics in this thread.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

Huge problem. Foreign investors (Americans) tend to cut and run when the economy slips.

...lol great observation Einstein.....and do you think this is an American phenomenon? ahahahah

That's only because Canada does not possess climates that mimic those found in Africa, Mexico, and the Middle East. It's purely a matter of tempurature.

...ahahahahah......you simply don't have the extent of knowledge to participate in this thread Oprah.... go back to your little 5 pounders.....

 

[peapod]

Careful pepper, one can almost see the perspiration :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: How could anyone take you seriously 8O

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

funny innit? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I just heard that canada's ecomony is booming, the interest rates are going up 8O yours however is in da tank....shove your bragging up you cheddar :wink: I will go find a link about it tho. :wink:

With all the money FEMA is now pumping out down here in Louisiana, you'd think the're drunken sailors on leave! $2,000 for each Household, Insurance checks coming in and the Oil Industry hiring like crazy with drilling starting back up!

$87 Billion to Louisiana, Sheesh, now is the time to get out the wheelbarrow, Boucoup argent ici!

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

Pulling out of NAFTA will allow us to play by the same rules as the US, since the US refuses to honour the agreement. I also pointed out that trade between the US and Canada was growing faster before the FTA and NAFTA than it has since.

...well, you are simply wrong on your point that trade was growing faster before NAFTA. The simple fact is that trade between the USA and CAnada has risen dramatically and as a result Canada does have a multi billion dollar trade surplus with the US. Before free trade exports accounted for significantly less of Canada's GDP than after. The Canadian manufacturing sector has close to doubled it's exports (in percentage of output & overall output) since NAFTA and FTA. Something like 1 in 3 Canadian jobs is now devoted to production of good and services for export.... not only this but FTA has acheived it goal of tariff elimination..although there are a few problems as we see today ex) softwood.......but it is surprising there are soo few problems given the sheer amount of trade done..
Pulling out of NAFTA is liberal wet dream, a few problems and they want to scrap the whole thing....

We built cars here before NAFTA though, and we would continue to build them and to sell them into the US market. The idea that getting out of NAFTA and diversifying our trade means that we could no longer trade with the US is ridiculous.

...you assume too much.....pulling out of NAFTA would be a slap in the face of the US....and if you think that trade would be normalized.....shit I'd be surprised if the US diden't ban Canadian exports......although our oil is of value to them.....there's the Alberta factor again..

Why would it be inevitable. If we limited the amount of foreign ownership, it would encourage diversification.

....lol ...good luck in limiting foreign ownership...I mean it sounds good but....

 

[Reverend Blair]

well, you are simply wrong on your point that trade was growing faster before NAFTA.

Actually, I'm not wrong. Do your research.

The simple fact is that trade between the USA and CAnada has risen dramatically and as a result Canada does have a multi billion dollar trade surplus with the US. Before free trade exports accounted for significantly less of Canada's GDP than after.

Trade was still growing at a faster rate before NAFTA. What you are doing is the equivalent of driving a car at 100 kph, then slowing down to 90 kph and claiming that you never would have reached 90 kph if you continued driving 100. Do your research.

Pulling out of NAFTA is liberal wet dream, a few problems and they want to scrap the whole thing....

The Liberals have kept us in NAFTA. Stephen Harper mused about pulling us out a couple of weeks ago. Do your research.

you assume too much.....pulling out of NAFTA would be a slap in the face of the US....and if you think that trade would be normalized.....shit I'd be surprised if the US diden't ban Canadian exports......although our oil is of value to them.....there's the Alberta factor again..

Without our energy, and that includes gas and electricity as well as oil, it is questionable whether the US could even feed itself. Industry would certainly shut down. Do your research.

You see the problem here Hank? Your ignorance of the facts, driven by your pathological worship of the American greenback and you psychotic fear of reality, is keeping you from looking at anything from outside of your tiny, storybook fantasy of how the world works.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

Trade was still growing at a faster rate before NAFTA. What you are doing is the equivalent of driving a car at 100 kph, then slowing down to 90 kph and claiming that you never would have reached 90 kph if you continued driving 100. Do your research.

care to back up your statements.....a link ?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How Immigrants View C

Do your own research, Hank. That's why I said, "Do your research." You can try reading some Mel Hurtig books though.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

...well I'm quite dissapointed Rev...I though at least you would be able to provide me with a radical left wing website...but nothing....

You can try reading some Mel Hurtig books though.

....lol.......I recall Mr Laynton making that statement in parliment last spring..... "monkey see as monkey do"....Rev?

...anyway's you should maybe try getting some text books or books written specifically on the issue without the author having a radical left or right bias...... beside's the books you talking about are highly hypothetical.......and I am familiar with people like Hurtig and Chomsky... I rememeber I bought the one that has the cover with the American flag and one of the 50 stars was a maple leaf....can't rememeber the title.... just a flight read though and I recall purposely leaving it on the plane..... wish I had my 20 back...

by the way my point still stands.....
ottytrain2:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

by the way my point still stands.....

and according to your fine emoticon..........."we' can see where it fits. :wink:

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How Immigrants View C

The numbers are numbers, little Hanky. Trade was growing faster before the FTA. If you had the capability to actually read a book, you'd have the capacity to do your research and learn that.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How Immigrants View C

Feck him, Ocean...he can't read well enough to do the research, then picks and chooses parts of a post without responding to the rest of the post. Funny how he requires proof yet is incapable of providing any of his own.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Funny how he requires proof yet is incapable of providing any of his own.

yep........a page from the bushinc liers book. (remember the WMD issue when bush said he did not have to provide proof and "we" were to take his "word" on his claims??? (like we are idiots or something.......... :roll:

Same games , same tactics. :roll:

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How Immigrants View C

Yup, and they repeat it so many times that they begin to believe it themselves.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: How Immigrants View C

Yup, and they repeat it so many times that they begin to believe it themselves.

indeed.........and this is how they become "programmed". Notice how "they" all sound similar ??? in tone, topic ,opinion and regurgitation .??? They follow the bush REGIME dogma.......as it has been drilled into them......and they failed to stand up and question the validity of their gov't lies and fabrications. Maybe they are too scared to think for themselves now........ as it might backfire if their gov't found out..

ya know, once they are brainwashed.......their gov't has them by the cajones and they are helpless to do anything about it.......except continue to be the sheeple their gov't wants them to be. What is amazing is that they do this voluntarily at first..

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

....well I have to say it's amusing that I have your panties all in a bunch Rev....I usually don't mean lol when I say lol, but I actually lol'd while writing my last post...

hmm ok you want facts.....

Before free trade exports accounted for significantly less of Canada's GDP than after.

...fact...before the free trade agreement exports accounted for 1/4 or 25% of Canada's GDP...after NAFTA it accounted for 40%.

The Canadian manufacturing sector has close to doubled it's exports (in percentage of output & overall output) since NAFTA and FTA. Something like 1 in 3 Canadian jobs is now devoted to production of good and services for export

....fact.... in the manufactoring sector 60 % of output is now exported, compared to just under 30 % in 1988...and approx 1 in 3 Canadian jobs are indeed linked to production of goods and services for export....its a fact

The simple fact is that trade between the USA and CAnada has risen dramatically and as a result Canada does have a multi billion dollar trade surplus with the US.

...fact..yes Canada does have a trade surplus with the USA and trade has increased dramatically since the FTA and NAFTA. It more than doubled from 1989 to 2003....from $192.4 billion to $441.5 billion.

...these are FACTS..... umm I quickly went on the government of Canada website and here is the link in regards to Canada and US trade...

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/can-am/washington/trade_and_investment/wltr-en.asp

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

oh yea and I almost forgot ottytrain2: .....my redneck ass