How do we "identity "and "values"?

[Machjo]

In another thread there is much talk of funding the CBC because it represents "Canadian identity" and "Canadian values".

Seeing that I rarely watch TV to begin with, does that mean I lack a Canadian values or a Canadian identity?

I value trating others with respect. I do what I can in my lifestyle to treat animals well and preserve our resources, give to cahrity, etc. etc. etc.

To me that's values.

And as for identity, I identify with others who also trat others with respect.

 

[taxslave]

Good question. The drivel that is CBC radio after the news is over is not something I identify with.
Big problem is that other than the basics you mentioned in a country this big and diversified it is rather hard to have a common identity.

 

[Machjo]

Good question. The drivel that is CBC radio after the news is over is not something I identify with.
Big problem is that other than the basics you mentioned in a country this big and diversified it is rather hard to have a common identity.

I barely listen to the radio.

I get most of my infor from the internet and books. And when listening to music, it's usually CDs.

So how does the CBC benefit me? Don't get me wrong, they've got good stuff for those who watch or listen to it, and I have no qualms about paying for something that does not benefit me personally if it's a good cause. But at least the English and French language CBCs are luxuries, not necessities.

 

[Liberalman]

So how does the CBC benefit me? Don't get me wrong, they've got good stuff for those who watch or listen to it, and I have no qualms about paying for something that does not benefit me personally if it's a good cause. But at least the English and French language CBCs are luxuries, not necessities.

Canada is the country we live in and what we do here, not in another country but here.

If one look at American programming it's about the American flag and American beliefs and about American sacrifices and the American way of life, the good and the bad.

What you need to do is to rediscover Canada, we have a history and we have a unique Canadian point of view and we are proud of our Canadian flag and we have ongoing issues that define us within our country.

Private broadcasters don't even play our national anthem because they really don't care.

A couple of weeks ago the House Of Commons had a private member's bill on respecting the Canadian flag and all the NDP MPs voted against it.

 

[Machjo]

Canada is the country we live in and what we do here, not in another country but here.

If one look at American programming it's about the American flag and American beliefs and about American sacrifices and the American way of life, the good and the bad.

What you need to do is to rediscover Canada, we have a history and we have a unique Canadian point of view and we are proud of our Canadian flag and we have ongoing issues that define us within our country.

Private broadcasters don't even play our national anthem because they really don't care.

A couple of weeks ago the House Of Commons had a private member's bill on respecting the Canadian flag and all the NDP MPs voted against it.

I actually agreed with the NDP MPs owing to repsect for private property.

I also happen to know the Canadian national anthem in both official languages and I did not need the CBC for that either. When was the last time the CBC tought the Anthem in both official languages?

Also, not all private programming is US. If you are not aware of that then I must conclude you yourself are guilty of watching mostly US programming.

Patriotism must come from the heart, not legislation, otherwise it's only superficial nationalism.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Canadian values are whatever our handlers say they are. We must apologise for the misdeeds of past ancestors and governments as if committed by us personally. We must be welcoming and accomodating to all newcomers and accept any changes they wish to make to our values for they will become "Canadian values". We must, if threatened, yield to the good nature of anyone wishing us harm. We must not defend ourselves, that is purview of our handlers and their appointed agents, they will take photographs and notify next of kin and ensure justice is served. Members of the majority must not offend, but allow themselves to be offended, especially by members of a historically disadvantaged group whether or not they are still disadvantaged. We are free to think what we want, but do not tell others if it is counter to the values of the othodoxy, truth is not a defense. We are deemed innocent until proven guilty, and that guilt is proven once our handler's agents lay a charge. We are free to defend ourselves against any charges, but such defense only offers more proof to our handlers that we are guilty because defense of any kind is still their job. Challenge authority at your peril.

In the ever shifting zeitgeist where Canadian values reside we need a medium to keep us up to date, hence the CBC.

 

[MHz]

So how does the CBC benefit me? Don't get me wrong, they've got good stuff for those who watch or listen to it, and I have no qualms about paying for something that does not benefit me personally if it's a good cause. But at least the English and French language CBCs are luxuries, not necessities.

It isn't there for you, these days CBC North would be the best example of how CBC was supposed to be apart from the other media outlets. Originally it was also to be the Emergency Broadcast System to keep Canadians informed in the event of disasters that interfered with normal communication. Today they would be more likely part of a blackout that being the one source digging in and getting the truth out. Again that seems to be funding something that no longer has the people's best interest at heart but take their direction from other players. If they can't survive on their own in a corporate climate then they should be absorbed by those same corporations.

Depending on the program text is good enough for translation, that way some more languages can be added for the people who are not up to speed on those two languages yet. On labels and signs the sign would be still be full of something so who cares if it is two languages, be nice if one language was always to the right and the other to the left so you could find the right one on the first try.

CBC North was also a public service announcement for remote people, messages like I'll be getting out of hospital on Thursday but I need a ride to the airport so can you give me $5 when I land.
Messages like that still need wireless transmission and those places don't have that service in all locations yet (that is affordable)6

 

[Machjo]

Sell off the CBC because we need another media outlet to purchase American programming.

They'll purchase it only if we watch it.

 

[Machjo]

......we do.

Soon, we will have no choice.

So if we do anyway, how will Canadian content change that? People will just switch channels to the American programming unless we start restricting US programming, and if we do that then we won't need the CBC since privat broadcasting would be mandated to cut back on US programming.

 

[mentalfloss]

Canadian values are difficult to pin down because there are few things that resonate with all Canadians.

Politically, we will always be divided.
Culturally, we will always be divided.

There are a few outliers in that every few years, some fringe voters say - "let's try left" this time and a few years later, we make an attempt to go the conservative route.

And there will always be hockey.

Lots and lots of hockey.

 

[captain morgan]

And there will always be hockey.

Lots and lots of hockey.

... The glue that keeps Canadian society forever bonded

 

[MHz]

Are the players going to get bigger in size or smaller?

The theme is based on ice being everywhere rather than the stick/puck relationship. At least in the next ice-age we will still have fire.

 

[mentalfloss]

... The glue that keeps Canadian society forever bonded

:lol:

 

[Liberalman]

Having said that I think the CBC will be gone in the next 5 years.

The way the Conservative government overspends on the boy toys this may be true

 

[SLM]

Good question. The drivel that is CBC radio after the news is over is not something I identify with.
Big problem is that other than the basics you mentioned in a country this big and diversified it is rather hard to have a common identity.

And yet somehow we still seem to identify in some way. Go figure eh?

... The glue that keeps Canadian society forever bonded

That and bitching about shoveling snow. Weather and hockey. Bitching and moaning. The glue of the nation.