CDNBear your first post put them in there place.
Calmecam, All about the rhetoric, you are simply wrong, conservatives simply believe in teaching a man to fish instead of giving him a fish. It is part of our ideology, YES we should help the less fortunate, but we should do it in a sustainable way. When it comes to a single mother in need of food for her children, we help on an individual basis, but we also want to give that mother opportunities to better herself, affording her incredible grants coupled with loans for schooling. Or providing a fund to give her free daycare at the place of her choosing. These are things that not only help the individual now, but in the future, which in turn also gives a boost to our society and our economy.
[FONT='Trebuchet MS','sans-serif']What we don't want to do is say, Here is the house you can live in for free, here is your food... Come back tomorrow and we will give you more food. There is no drive in this cycle to do better.
It is interesting to note that those Christians you say don't care about the poor, donate more money on an individual basis than ANY OTHER subset of people, in fact Christian organizations are always at the forefront of aid around the world. We simply don't need to get a pat on the back for every little thing we do... Because my time is better spent else ware I donate my money to help causes I believe are worthy.
DocDred: What I find weird is how it seems that as people mature and get a better understanding of the world, economics, work ethic, and loose the naive idealistic views they had of societies and people when they were young; they stop being given what they need to survive and they gain more of a want to work for what they reap, and not expect hand outs, they seem to move closer and closer to a right of center position.
Poll early high school students for what party they associate themselves with, you will see the largest support over any demographic of the NDP, many of the rest will associate with liberals, only a small few will associate with conservatives.
Move up to Graduating high school students and early college students generally with VERY LITTLE work experience save from McD's (this is the time when people first begin to vote), you see a strong shift towards the right: NDP's moving to liberal, and Liberal moving to conservative.
Late stage college/university when people have learned to work for what they want, we see that sharp drop in NDP support down nearing 0 for the educated (although higher for those in union type factory positions) of course you also have your "academic lifers" who also will stick to there idealistic views there whole life, and they may stay NDP if they were in the first place.
Move in to the real world, (excluding those who had always voted NDP since they graduated high school), we now have a virtually dead even race between the liberal and conservatives, the support changes with the times, and with the leaders.)
But never (extremely rare I am sure) will anyone who has voted conservative ever again vote NDP, although MANY who once voted NDP in their younger voting years, will vote conservative.
THIS IS EXTREMELY GENERALLIZED AND MY ERA'S HAVE MORE TO DO WITH INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT THAN THEY DO WITH THE PERSONS ACTUAL ATTENDANCE OF A HIGHER EDUCATION FACILITY, THERE ARE MANY THAT GO THROUGH TRADES AND MATURE OR MOVE UP IN WHAT EVER FIELD THEY GET IN TO AFTER HIGHSCHOOL. THE COMMON THREAD IS THAT THEY BETTER THEMSELVES AND NOT STICK TO THE STATUS QUO FACTORY JOB.... THE POINT IS AS PEOPLE MATURE THEY MOVE TO THE RIGHT)
I am sure I am leaving things out and not being clear enough but I must run., please criticize so I can correct misinterpretations of what I am saying.
