How can we get rid of our sinfulness?
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It's a catchy disease that type of convenient usage. Most christians demand scientific proof of evolution (which is immensely abundant), but refuse to cough up any proof backing up their own version of history, instead relying on all the hearsay written in bibles. But, as a rule folks like me don't mind supplying info on evolution and ignore the hearsay.
Someone once said something to the effect of normal people who would normally scoff at products of the imagination upon mention of the word "god" or "christ" dig their heels in and blindly support their faith even though there is no basis for that faith in reality.
I've been having a problem with myself that seems to be getting worse...I can't seem to do almost anything any more without a little nagging feeling that whatever it is might be being done with the wrong intention, or might be a mortal sin. It sounds ridiculous and, consciously, I know that it is. I know consciously that I believe everything I've ever heard the church teach, but it gets to the point that even when I'm typing I'll type something and something will "click" and I'll think that the last sentence I wrote is sinful in either its nature or the way I do it, sometimes because of little more than a small feeling I had while or soon after typing it. I feel like I have to constantly police my thoughts or I'll let slip something mortally sinful. I can't write without feeling that I've sinned and feeling practically obligated to immediately pray for forgiveness, and then I run into a second part of the problem: I'll worry that I haven't consciously meant what I said, or didn't respect God enough when I said it, and it is therefore blasphemy. I'll also sometimes do something and think, in hindsight, that it was a mortal sin - not because of its nature, but because I thought it was at the time on a conscious or not-so-conscious level, and I can't tell which. My life with other people is being affected because I'll distance myself from them in order to silently pray for forgiveness over and over, or with repetition or "make-ups" for something I think I did wrong. These problems in turn lead to frustration which I sometimes think I accidentally blaspheme with, and this leads to another near-compulsion to pray and I fear I can't stop for various reasons: that I think the prayer won't be answered, or some things I do from then on will be a part of the prayer until I say "amen," and things like that.
I don't know how to conclusively tell that what I'm doing is wrong, or how to otherwise solve the problem. Any help or prayers would be appreciated, especially from a Catholic priest.
(As I try to wrap up this thread I have the feeling I should give praise to God in some way, and that I'm obligated to. This is sort of what I'm talking about. It's not in a good way, either...I feel like something bad will happen if I don't.)
I don't know how to conclusively tell that what I'm doing is wrong, or how to otherwise solve the problem. Any help or prayers would be appreciated, especially from a Catholic priest.
(As I try to wrap up this thread I have the feeling I should give praise to God in some way, and that I'm obligated to. This is sort of what I'm talking about. It's not in a good way, either...I feel like something bad will happen if I don't.)
..........except his rage, his jealousy, and all those other humanlike characteristics the bible says he has. "I love you, but I'm making this volcano hit you and your town." "I love you, but this day I will kill your brand new baby". Nuts.Well it's the mysterious ways thing again. And again I say, nuts. If there ever was a truly political answer, that's the one.
Well, of course it's different. Most species don't display love towards something then in the next instant kill whatever they love unless they've succumbed to lunacy. The bible says that your god made man in his image. If that were true, then people would be killing their loved ones.
Yeah, right. See my last post.
Because we each have different genetics and have experienced different environments. I know it's a tough concept to grasp, but try anyway.
It is for some. For example, it's why I became a firefighter instead of an accountant, or a mass-murderer. (Well, the money, benefits, adrenaline rushes, and variety were also factors,
but I still loved what I did because of the love I have for lives of critters).Again, it's the genetics and environment thing.
Because of that very thing. Not all, but some wars are fought because of people's faiths. Where've you been?
I agree, it is inscrutable. And the reason is that there is no reason to it at all. It's unreasonable and irrational and entirely chaotic.
So does genetics. If there was an all-out war between humans and black bears (IE), we'd all unite against black bears. So?
Why? You and I agree about its basic premises, it's just that I think its methods, its portrayal, etc. is right out of the LSD lab.
And the right motive is your motive? rofl
Many saints have said
"Pray as if everything depends on God and work as if everything depends upon you." meaning trust in God and do what you can. If you are doing this, you need not worry because God will take care of you.
I have two simple suggestions:
First pray the rosary daily. I can not over emphasise the love that your mother, Mary has for you.
Secondly, frequent sacramental confession. Even if the priest doesn't give you the best advice, you get absolved from your sins, a chance to get them off your chest, and most importantly, the grace to start anew. If possible, before or after confession (or both) spend some time silently soaking up the love of Jesus before the blessed sacrament.
You need to acknowledge that you are helpless and you can't do this on your own.
There are a bizillion things you can read, study, etc. But I think developing a relationship with Jesus and Mary is key. They will lead you where you want to go.
If you are already doing those things, then just keep at it. Life is hard but I know that eventually you will realize God's infinte love in your life. Don't Give Up!
May God Bless you and keep you safe.
Yoy are an out and out heretic AJ. You do not know Christ. You are the deceiver. Salvation is only through the Roman Catholic Church, everything else is false.
I just watched a show on PBS. You can watch it online as of tomorrow. The subject matter is about Child Molestation and the catholic church......I KNEW these people! The Priests were in the news and in MY Parish as guests as I was growing up!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/handofgod/
Its a 90 minute show
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/handofgod/
Its a 90 minute show
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LIAR......watch that show and keep your preverted church........blind hypocrites so they be!
Brother Sanctus, with or without those 7 extra books, I will still find the message that shows God loves us.
The bible is as like the stage of human activity, by which shows the interactions of God and man played out. With God being: the director and producer.
Now, don’t miss the gist of that statement.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Neither, had or has the right answer. The Dad, because he sought to do right by what he knew, and the daughters sought to do right by what they didn't like.
The answers to life are not given without an experience. How would we know that what we are doing is right or not right? Jump in and find out!
The dad, sought to get close to God therefore, finding what he believed was right for him and his family.The daughters didn't like it and thought that the dad wasn't right.
If the whole family were in agreement with him, it still would not be necessarily right.
Opposition has the ability to make define what is right from what is not right.
Opposition then, causes us to experience the making of choices.
The dad chose to go his way, and the daughter chose to stay the course.
Neither, are right, because there was a division.
Now, if the dad understood what Gods love is, he would have opt to be open minded with his family for love sake.
Perhaps in time, one or the other will exercise Gods love, and forgive the other for what each thought was right, and in love regain the unity that once was.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Confusion is a tool which causes us to seek the right answers.
In the book of genesis we find this verse: Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Those underlined words describe the earth as in a state of confusion.
But notice at the last words in Blue!
The Spirit of God moved upon……….
When one is troubled by confusion, seeking God will cause God to move upon your spirit and through your experience, to find the right answers.
Darkness is representative of not having any light. When the Spirit of God shines on the faces, the darkness is dispelled, and are drawn unto the light.
In our quest to live right, find God, we go through periods of experiences of confusion.
Some say this and some say that.
But what does God say?
Go to the source of His words. The bible!
There will not be instant answers, but there will be comfort and guidance while you search.
And through experience, those scriptures will come to life in your mind, and give you understanding.
Everybody is on the same journey regardless of what anybody says. That is why there are so many different beliefs, because everybody’s experiences are different.
But when through life’s experiences and study, we hope to come to the full stature of Christ.
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
My prayer is that you find Gods love in your life.
Peace>>>AJ
Aw jeez... there's nothing like a good religious upbringing to make you feel guilty, or wrong, or stupid, or sinful. Trust your instincts, trust yourself, say what you feel. You're human, that's all.
Gilbert! If a man came to you and said, I am Jesus, the Son of God. Based on what you said the bible said God is: quote “..........except his rage, his jealousy, and all those other humanlike characteristics the bible says he has. "I love you, but I'm making this volcano hit you and your town." "I love you, but this day I will kill your brand new baby". Would you give him a piece of your mind?
Well, guess what? That is exactly what mankind did to Jesus? They took out their anger at God by hanging his son on the cross to die for claiming to be one with God, or as God, which was blasphemy.
Here these folks had from God the law, a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye, yet this Jesus comes and says: “Love your enemies”. Wouldn’t you say that there was something wrong with that picture?
Is this not the same thing you are saying about God? I quote you again: “..........except his rage, his jealousy, and all those other humanlike characteristics the bible says he has. "I love you, but I'm making this volcano hit you and your town." "I love you, but this day I will kill your brand new baby”.
But then, I say, Jesus came and thought us to love our enemies, and you say : If there ever was a truly political answer, that's the one.
Well, then Gilbert, you might as well be the soldier that hammered the nails to Jesus’ wrists!
But wait, you have been absolved from any wrong doings.
Look: Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Peace>>>AJ
If you thank God for what little you have, then you can prasie Him for all that He can give you.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Whoa! What preposterous, breathtaking, judgemental arrogance. You cannot possibly unequivocably demonstrate the truth of that extraordinary claim, it is only an opinion of yours, and most people on the planet don't share it despite centuries of missionary work trying to convince the heathens everywhere.
You provide a fine example of everything I find most offensive and dangerous about true believers, that conviction of absolute certainty, you're right and everybody who disagrees is condemned.
Is there no possibility that you might be wrong?
Are you prepared to crucify me?
You haven't been reading your bible. Do it, and talk to me when you have read it cover to cover.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
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