How can we get rid of our sinfulness?

[look3467]

If you notice, that everything I say comes from point of reference: the love of God ?

Notice that there is no condemnation us word from God?

That is because it comes from above. Everything here below, is limited to the human abilitys.

We all try, some harder than others. And none of us can take any credit for being better than others because we are all in the same boat, with the same limitations, same kind of flesh and the same lustful desires.
God alone can take credit for our good behavior, because He is in us performing that which is good.
When evil is performed, then it is the self in us that does it, and for that, we are held accountable by our own laws.

The flesh requires retribution, but God doesn't.

God looks at the heart, and deals with the heart.

Once God takes a foot hold in your heart, your life begins to be transformed.

Jesus is born in you and begins to grow towards maturity in you, to present you clean and chaste, as a bride adorned in a white dress for the marriage of the lamb.

God is a wonderful God and not what many paint Him to be.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[mapleleafgirl]

No body is 100 percent right, Maple, that why "Faith" comes in and is fed by the Spirit of God.

You see, not everybody is at the same level of understanding, thereby, making it hard for some to understand somethings that are foreign to us.

But, the bible tells us to "prove" all things, meaning, don't take any body's word for it, you search it out yourself, and then make up your own mind.

That's where the Holy Spirit gives guidance, because He can see into your heart, and teach you what you need for the moment, and then later will give more. Bit by bit, line by line, He will not ever leave you or forsake you.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

but aj, youre missing the point. the poit is we got ten billion different churches all teaching different things and all saying the holy spirit leads them to their doctrines. okay, so we got the catholic church who says they need to interpret the bible cos it makes us all see things the same way. dosent that makem ore sense. cos from where i sit they are the first and so it seems the rest came outta them right?

soooooooooo, how could baptists say and pentecostals or whatever both be right if they teach different things. thats not logical. that has nothing to do with the holyspirit i think but some guys making up their own interpretations. see what i mean?

 

[mapleleafgirl]

If you notice, that everything I say comes from point of reference: the love of God ?

Notice that there is no condemnation us word from God?

That is because it comes from above. Everything here below, is limited to the human abilitys.

We all try, some harder than others. And none of us can take any credit for being better than others because we are all in the same boat, with the same limitations, same kind of flesh and the same lustful desires.
God alone can take credit for our good behavior, because He is in us performing that which is good.
When evil is performed, then it is the self in us that does it, and for that, we are held accountable by our own laws.

The flesh requires retribution, but God doesn't.

God looks at the heart, and deals with the heart.

Once God takes a foot hold in your heart, your life begins to be transformed.

Jesus is born in you and begins to grow towards maturity in you, to present you clean and chaste, as a bride adorned in a white dress for the marriage of the lamb.

God is a wonderful God and not what many paint Him to be.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

i notice that everything you say is your opinion on what you think god is telling you, but that dosent prove it is actually from god.

 

[look3467]

but aj, youre missing the point. the poit is we got ten billion different churches all teaching different things and all saying the holy spirit leads them to their doctrines. okay, so we got the catholic church who says they need to interpret the bible cos it makes us all see things the same way. dosent that makem ore sense. cos from where i sit they are the first and so it seems the rest came outta them right?

soooooooooo, how could baptists say and pentecostals or whatever both be right if they teach different things. thats not logical. that has nothing to do with the holyspirit i think but some guys making up their own interpretations. see what i mean?

Yes, it does make sense, Maple.

The church and any other organization is a tool by which our young ones can have fellowship, grow and learn about God, respectively.

If one wishes to just live by the precepts of that organization, then one is bound by them.

But if one wishes to know God in a deeper form, then one must jump into scripture, pray and search by asking God's guidance.

Then and only then are you led to the renewing of your mind and by which you pick and choose who what or where you wish to belong to.

If the Catholic Church is what you like, then stay with her. God loves all His critters, regardless of who they are.
Personally, I don't have a church, but am the church when someone is in need.

For Christ is the church, and where ever Christ is, there you will find the church.

I find Christ in you! By your words confession is made of the love for Jesus, thereby, you are the church of which Christ is a resident in.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[mapleleafgirl]

Yes, it does make sense, Maple.

The church and any other organization is a tool by which our young ones can have fellowship, grow and learn about God, respectively.

If one wishes to just live by the precepts of that organization, then one is bound by them.

But if one wishes to know God in a deeper form, then one must jump into scripture, pray and search by asking God's guidance.

Then and only then are you led to the renewing of your mind and by which you pick and choose who what or where you wish to belong to.

If the Catholic Church is what you like, then stay with her. God loves all His critters, regardless of who they are.
Personally, I don't have a church, but am the church when someone is in need.

For Christ is the church, and where ever Christ is, there you will find the church.

I find Christ in you! By your words confession is made of the love for Jesus, thereby, you are the church of which Christ is a resident in.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

i give up aj. youre not answering this one, right? but thanks for the good thoughts. im not catholic, i dont belong to any church. im just shopping around and so far in the christian world they make the most sense to me-so far anyways.

 

[look3467]

i notice that everything you say is your opinion on what you think god is telling you, but that dosent prove it is actually from god.

Yes, but references are that shows Gods love towards us.

Where have I shown that God condemns anyone?

If I did, then you might have a question, but since I don't, and is only good that I speak, by what other reasoon would there be to doubt that it comes from God?

Tit 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
Tit 2:8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
1Th 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[look3467]

i give up aj. youre not answering this one, right? but thanks for the good thoughts. im not catholic, i dont belong to any church. im just shopping around and so far in the christian world they make the most sense to me-so far anyways.

Maple, don't make it harder than it seems.

It is very very simple, God loves you so much that He gave His Son to die on the cross for the forgiveness of your sins, where by you may have access to heaven without the penalty of eternal damnation!

Mankind has made a shamble out of religion!

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[mapleleafgirl]

Yes, but references are that shows Gods love towards us.

Where have I shown that God condemns anyone?

If I did, then you might have a question, but since I don't, and is only good that I speak, by what other reasoon would there be to doubt that it comes from God?

Tit 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
Tit 2:8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
1Th 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

look, just cos you say it comes from god doesnt make it so. how do you know its from god? that is what you say. but again with the point, everybody says god is telling them things and they just cant all be right. its too confusing. if someone, say, has been a christian as long as you and you both say the bible says different things, one of you has gotta be right and one of you has gotta be wrong.it dosent make sense otherwise. anyways, the catholic church is the oldest and biggest, so if god is head of the church wouldnt it make sense that would the church hed most be in favour of?its very confusing aj. im intersted, but so many different doctrines that from the outside it makese no sense. i believe there is a god and that he started the church, thats logical, but he never said he started a whole bunch of different churches. know what i mean?

 

[mapleleafgirl]

hey self, you got any links about that channeling stuff i could look at?

 

[look3467]

look, just cos you say it comes from god doesnt make it so. how do you know its from god? that is what you say. but again with the point, everybody says god is telling them things and they just cant all be right. its too confusing. if someone, say, has been a christian as long as you and you both say the bible says different things, one of you has gotta be right and one of you has gotta be wrong.it dosent make sense otherwise. anyways, the catholic church is the oldest and biggest, so if god is head of the church wouldnt it make sense that would the church hed most be in favour of?its very confusing aj. im intersted, but so many different doctrines that from the outside it makese no sense. i believe there is a god and that he started the church, thats logical, but he never said he started a whole bunch of different churches. know what i mean?

Maple, I am not trying to convince you either way, but I do stress that you get alone with your bible, and study it, asking God to give you wisdom in undersrtanding of what is truth.

We can only worship God in spirit, and the spirit is in us being transformed into a God like creature with Godly attributes. (Or image if you prefer)

It is here nor there, but what sayeth the Lord, who talks to us in spirit to our spirit and reveals His love to us.

I perceive that you have a good and kind heart, but need to go one on one with God.

He is there to listen and teach all that your hearts desire of Him.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[mapleleafgirl]

Maple, I am not trying to convince you either way, but I do stress that you get alone with your bible, and study it, asking God to give you wisdom in undersrtanding of what is truth.

We can only worship God in spirit, and the spirit is in us being transformed into a God like creature with Godly attributes. (Or image if you prefer)

It is here nor there, but what sayeth the Lord, who talks to us in spirit to our spirit and reveals His love to us.

I perceive that you have a good and kind heart, but need to go one on one with God.

He is there to listen and teach all that your hearts desire of Him.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

okay, so i get alone with a bible, nobody to help me understand what i am reading, and i decide the bible proves i am the virgin mary reborn and i need to start a new church. i tell you the holy spirit told me this stuff. look, its like school i think. in class they ask us for opinions and stuff but the teacher guides us to knowing the whole story. otherwise we only have our own opinions. to me, logically, that is what the catholic church does for its people, lets them read their bibles and teaches them what it is supposed to mean so they dont go off with strange ideas.

 

[look3467]

okay, so i get alone with a bible, nobody to help me understand what i am reading, and i decide the bible proves i am the virgin mary reborn and i need to start a new church. i tell you the holy spirit told me this stuff. look, its like school i think. in class they ask us for opinions and stuff but the teacher guides us to knowing the whole story. otherwise we only have our own opinions. to me, logically, that is what the catholic church does for its people, lets them read their bibles and teaches them what it is supposed to mean so they dont go off with strange ideas.

God is love, period! 1Jo 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Need I say more?

If that doesn't say it, and my actions don't portray it, then, you can discount what I say.
And my words have been nothing but encouraging. At least that is what I hope.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[hermanntrude]

how can u read the bible and NOT get strange ideas? the whole thing is strange

 

[selfactivated]

Im glad you like me Maple thats all that counts Love. I know you like sanc and you believe his words thats fine. Whats between me and the priest goes far beyond my experiences is a falacy in his and the churches beliefs. The catholic church is NOT THE Church.....it is A church. And not a very loving one.

As for the channelling I dont trust anything online to give you. My Soulmate who is a very "scientific" guy, him and his wife read Abraham-Hicks list

http://abraham-hicks.net/

http://www.abraham-hicks.com/

He believes their teachings.

This is a definition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channelling_(mediumistic)

 

[selfactivated]

okay, so i get alone with a bible, nobody to help me understand what i am reading, and i decide the bible proves i am the virgin mary reborn and i need to start a new church. i tell you the holy spirit told me this stuff. look, its like school i think. in class they ask us for opinions and stuff but the teacher guides us to knowing the whole story. otherwise we only have our own opinions. to me, logically, that is what the catholic church does for its people, lets them read their bibles and teaches them what it is supposed to mean so they dont go off with strange ideas.

Its one big story. Like huck finn or Moby Dick........glean what you like throw away the rest......move on. Simple enough.

 

[L Gilbert]

How can we get rid of our sinfulness? Just quit.

 

[look3467]

Its one big story. Like huck finn or Moby Dick........glean what you like throw away the rest......move on. Simple enough.>>>L Gilbert

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

AJ included! What advantage have I then if all are concluded in unbelief? Mainly this, that once I was lost, but now am found.

Now, I know!

Peace>>>AJ

 

[L Gilbert]

Its one big story. Like huck finn or Moby Dick........glean what you like throw away the rest......move on. Simple enough.>>>L Gilbert

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

AJ included! What advantage have I then if all are concluded in unbelief? Mainly this, that once I was lost, but now am found.

Now, I know!

Peace>>>AJ

lol

I find myself every day. Usually as soon as I open my eyes.It isn't a biggie.

 

[look3467]

lol

I find myself every day. Usually as soon as I open my eyes.It isn't a biggie.

Perfect example there bro of the two different worlds of thought.
One is perfectly normal in the worlds thought
The other is abnormal in the worlds thought.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[L Gilbert]

Exactly.
I hope you referred to me as the abnormal part. The reason being that I find most people kinda like sheep. Hence my comment about "sheeple" sometimes. I am me and quite unwilling to accept things without evidence.