How about them Canucks!

[talloola]

Poppycock!
Any time now the sports writers will be trying to tell us that the Canucks are a contender. rah rah...go Canucks go.....At the moment the Canucks are not a contender. In their last ten games they have 4 losses, 2 wins, and 4 ot ties. What actually took place was that the Canucks couldn't hang on to a one goal lead and they dropped another one. NHL hockey is high priced entertainment. The Canucks don't owe me anything. I don't buy season tickets......Thank God... By the same token, I don't owe them anything either. Torts tells us that he doesn't worry about what other teams are doing.....maybe that is the problem...

I explained in my post game remarks just how the team lost the game, but giving a big general statement
about the 'whole' team post game, does not describe how the game was lost, no one called bieksa a goat
except you, he just made a mistake, but the mistake cost the team a goal, that is very simple to see.
your post statements every time are just a general 'angry' lash out because they lost and that pisses you
off.
The canucks played a very good game, the second period was one of the best of the season, in the last
two periods they outshot the kings by 'around' 28 to 8, or thereabouts. I am enjoying watching the
team play every game, with exception of the one against new jersey, where they didn't come to play.
The media don't lift them up at all, just the opposite, they love it when they lose, cause they have
lots of talk about, as they don't like talking about the 'good' they love to talk about the 'bad', so
no, they don't praise them at all.
watching a hockey game has absolutely nothing to do withg high priced entertainment, or money, and nothing
to do with you or me, it about THEM, the players and coaches, it is about their efforts, and desire to do
well. They went out there last night and gave their all, blood flowed, hits were made, and very good plays,
but it didn't result in a win.
For you that is the focus, win or all is lost, not for me and anyone who loves to watch good hockey.
I feel sorry for them right now, because everything they do isn't paying off, that is the breaks, and
no one can accuse them of slacking off, or not trying, or being the lesser team in the battle because it
isn't that way at all.
take your blinders off, try enjoying the sport you think you know everything about, but really don't,
because winning and losing is all there is for you, and yes, you miss the game and all it has to offer
because they lost.
of course winning and losing is everything to the business, but the business has nothing to do with
the reality of 'THE GAME' and all it stands for.

yes kreskin, it would be nice of luongo would rescue them once in a while and make a save, after a big
mistake, but he hasn't, but one can't blame him for the goals either, they weren't mistakes on his
part, he just didn't become the hero of those games.

eg. last game against chicago, crawford stood on his head in the last period, and hung on to the
lead for his team, and that is what the canucks need right now.

JLM, I coached minor hockey for a lot of years...as high as Junior B.... I know what losing streaks are. The Canuck's losing streak will likely continue until Torts finds a good line combination and leaves them alone for a few games. They won't improve unless you let them play together for a while. .

yeah yeah juan, you've spouted off a few times about your coaching history, and we could do the same and
up you quite a bit, but that isn't the point, and that doesn't make you any more knowledgeable than many
who have never coached.
I like the way torterella switches lines, and also immediately sits a player who isn't 'going', as he calls
it.
The game is being played very well by this team, they have lots of jump and fire, lots of effort and
desire, and lots of scoring chances, just no scoring right now.

I hated the way 'crawford' and 'vineault' left lines together for long periods of time when they weren't
getting scoring chances, and left players in the game when they were not 'going', so no I totally
disagree with you, and I hope he keeps up his line changing as he is doing.

These players are highly talented professionals, and can adapt very quickly to any situation their
coach puts them in, and when they don't he will see that and change it about, good for him.

 

[#juan]

Wonderful philosophy Talloola, but NHL hockey is a high priced entertainment business. Vancouver will fill the seats whether they win or lose. I can't wait for the World Junior Championships......That, is real hockey and I will watch it win or lose

 

[JLM]

"No matter if you win or lose it's how you play the game".- More people have to get back to that. (Including the parents of minor hockey players) (Who think their son is going to be Wayne Gretzky Jr.)

 

[#juan]

"No matter if you win or lose it's how you play the game".- More people have to get back to that. (Including the parents of minor hockey players) (Who think their son is going to be Wayne Gretzky Jr.)

No doubt there are a lot of ex coaches out there who thought that "it didn't matter if you won or lost, it was how you played the game"

Like a lot of games, the winner is the one who scored the most goals, runs, baskets; hockey is like that as well.

 

[JLM]

No doubt there are a lot of ex coaches out there who thought that "it didn't matter if you won or lost, it was how you played the game"

Like a lot of games, the winner is the one who scored the most goals, runs, baskets; hockey is like that as well.

It's the process more than the result that counts. It's having fun that's important.

 

[bill barilko]

It's the process more than the result that counts. It's having fun that's important.

Not in professional sport it ain't-it's about money, money, money.

 

[JLM]

Not in professional sport it ain't-it's about money, money, money.

Yep, there's not a business that isn't these days, but the as$holes aren't intelligent enough to realize half the teams have to lose. -

 

[talloola]

its only about the money 'if' you are part of the business, and bottom line is profit, and victory,
and that is totally understandable, BUT that doesn't mean I, who don't give a rat's butt about that
aspect of the game, have to get sucked into that area of hockey, so that is my point all along, that
I can look right past 'all' of that, and watch all of these athletes, (by the way juan, almost 'all'
were those junior players who love, till they get a pay cheque), play their hearts out, and I can
still see the 'real' heart of the sport, without having anything get in my way, eg. how much money
they make, how mad I am because they make the money, how mad I am because they have the gall to lose
when they make that money, how my feelings are rattled because they don't please me, I have the ability
to watch all of these players just like I watched hundreds and hundreds of minor players play the
game, as the reason they play is because they loved it as a kid, became very good at it, and now they
love it as a professional.
no one is more competetive than my husband, even in tiddlywinks, lol, and was a very talented hockey player,
was invited to an nhl training camp at 16, couldn't go because of parents, so he played for years,
coached at many levels for years, with me right at his side running many different hockey teams, some
female and some male, from little kids right up to adults, juniors etc.,he coached his players to play the best of their ability, and nobody wanted to
'win' more than he did, BUT he had a complete understanding of the game, and his and my teams won
many championships at the provincial level, after a loss, he stepped back, accepted the result and
taught all of his players how to do that as well, hold your head high, don't pout and moan, have
respect for the victor, shake hands, learn from the mistakes next practice, and move forward.
He and I still watch all of the hockey with same attitude, we understand the athlete, we understand
the game, and none of it has anything to do with money, and anyone with half a brain can see that during
and after every game, all those players are spent, gave their all, made some mistakes, as all teams do,
and have either won or lost the game.
We are not going to spend one second muttering about how they did anything to 'us', they didn't.
If people want to spend their money on seasons tickets or one ticket, fine, do that,
but it gives no guarantee of victory on the ice, and if one can afford a seasons
ticket, then it isn't a big loss each season anyway, its entertainment and fun,
but if one is thinking that every time they go to a game they should see a win,
give your head a shake, these are human beings.
Big contracts don't come with a guarantee of big stats for those players, those
contracts are for the 'past' performances, and hopefully the player can continue
that level of play, but doesn't always happen, in fact I think many of the big
contracts put far too much stress on a player to perform, and hinder the performance,
they try too hard, they feel guilty, etc., just normal human reaction.

Yep, there's not a business that isn't these days, but the as$holes aren't intelligent enough to realize half the teams have to lose. -

yep -

 

[talloola]

PrintCANUCKS (12-9-5) at SENATORS (10-11-4)

TV: NHLN-US, RDS, SNET-VAN, SNET-OTT

Last 10: Vancouver 2-4-4; Ottawa 5-5-0

Season series: This is the first of two games between the Vancouver Canucks and Ottawa Senators. They will play each other March 2 at BC Place in the Tim Hortons Heritage Classic.

Big story: The Canucks begin a three-game road trip Thursday with hopes of avoiding a three-game winless streak. Vancouver has scored more than two goals once in its past eight games. Ottawa returns to Canadian Tire Centre after winning twice on its three-game trip.

Team Scope:

Canucks: Vancouver's woes continued Monday when it dropped a 3-2 overtime decision to the Los Angeles Kings to close a six-game homestand. The Canucks picked up one victory, 6-2 against the Columbus Blue Jackets last Friday.

Vancouver held a 2-1 lead late in the third period Monday, but Mike Richards tied it with 2:54 left in regulation before Anze Kopitar won it 48 seconds into overtime.

"I thought it was one of our better games of the year," coach John Tortorella said after practice Wednesday. "We just didn't finish the game. Gotta play the full 60 minutes and a couple of details got away from us.

"I thought we practiced really well today. I think the spirits are good. It's something as far as a coaching staff we need to watch. I think that's the most important thing with our team right now, is to watch [if we're fragile], because quite honestly I think a lot of our game is good. But our mindset is an important. We've been in this little jam here for a little while."

Senators: Ottawa showed some grit Wednesday when it rallied from a two-goal deficit and earned a 6-4 victory against the Washington Capitals at Verizon Center. Bobby Ryan scored his 12th and 13th goals of the season, and Erik Karlsson had two assists.

The Senators trailed 3-1 after the first period, but got goals from Chris Phillips and Colin Greening in the second. Zack Smith scored what proved to be the game-winning goal with 2:23 left in regulation.

"I think there certainly were a lot of angry people in there," Senators coach Paul MacLean said of his team's attitude in the dressing room during the first intermission. "At the same time, I thought there was a lot of solution as well within that. As far as being angry, I thought it ended up being more intense and focused on the structure of our game and the work ethic that is needed for our game to work.

"I thought that ended up being the difference in the game. Not anger, but intensity. Not frustration, but intensity."

Who's hot: Canucks captain Henrik Sedin has four goals in his past five games. … Ryan has three goals and an assist in the past three games. Karlsson has points in six of his past seven games. He is 1-7-8 over that span.

Injury report: The Canucks are still without forward Jordan Schroeder (ankle). … Senators defenseman Mark Borowiecki (strained neck) is close to returning.


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these games in the east are very important to the canucks, they need the wins badly, hopefully that can
start tonight in ottawa.

ottawa is also a question mark.

 

[JLM]

PrintCANUCKS (12-9-5) at SENATORS (10-11-4)

TV: NHLN-US, RDS, SNET-VAN, SNET-OTT

Last 10: Vancouver 2-4-4; Ottawa 5-5-0

Season series: This is the first of two games between the Vancouver Canucks and Ottawa Senators. They will play each other March 2 at BC Place in the Tim Hortons Heritage Classic.

Big story: The Canucks begin a three-game road trip Thursday with hopes of avoiding a three-game winless streak. Vancouver has scored more than two goals once in its past eight games. Ottawa returns to Canadian Tire Centre after winning twice on its three-game trip.

Statistics (which I seldom believe) favour the Canucks! -

 

[talloola]

Statistics (which I seldom believe) favour the Canucks! -

yeah, those darn stats, makes things confusing as the stats tend to make people think that
it should be a win for canucks, sometime it is, sometimes it isn't, stats are just a guidline
and and method of keeping teams in order, not anything written in stone.

either team can come out and play lights out, or not, they aren't computerized robots, just people,
lots of early greying hair for coaches, lol.

 

[JLM]

yeah, those darn stats, makes things confusing as the stats tend to make people think that
it should be a win for canucks, sometime it is, sometimes it isn't, stats are just a guidline
and and method of keeping teams in order, not anything written in stone.

either team can come out and play lights out, or not, they aren't computerized robots, just people,
lots of early greying hair for coaches, lol.

I'm going to keep a positive thought, Talloola, most of their road trips generally work out fairly well.

 

[talloola]

I'm going to keep a positive thought, Talloola, most of their road trips generally work out fairly well.

ok, that makes two of us.

 

[JLM]

ok, that makes two of us.

Are you starting to smile #Juan?

Canucks and Edmonton both win, it just doesn't get any better than that!

 

[Christianna]

I never watch hockey, or any other sport, but I did win Safeway's Score and Win a couple of weeks or so ago. Won a beautiful mans Bulova watch. Could have knocked me over with a feather. Friends called to let me know my name was called. Picked the watch up today. Neither of my men folks want it (meaning hubby and son) so I'm gonna sell it.

 

[JLM]

I never watch hockey, or any other sport, but I did win Safeway's Score and Win a couple of weeks or so ago. Won a beautiful mans Bulova watch. Could have knocked me over with a feather. Friends called to let me know my name was called. Picked the watch up today. Neither of my men folks want it (meaning hubby and son) so I'm gonna sell it.

There's just no end of joy those Canucks bestow! -

 

[talloola]

the first period was a mess, lots of mistakes, missed passes, missed assignments, then luongo let in
a soft goal, torterella must have thrown all of them all over the dressing room between periods,
because they came out flying, scored 3 fast goals, looked sharp, luongo played solid for the rest
of the game, booth scored a goal, so all is well, back on track for now.

rangers on saturday, carolina on sunday, both day games.

had the edmonton game too, switched back and forth with the commercials and
intermissions, they are playing better now, and bryzgaloff starterd his first
game with them, and was solid. they still need to improve in their own end,
but look better than they have, for quite a while.

 

[talloola]

Rangers and Canucks face former coaches - saturday 10:00 a.m. pacific

CANUCKS (13-9-5) at RANGERS (13-13-0)

TV: NHLN-US, SNET-P, MSG

Last 10: Vancouver 3-4-3; New York 5-5-0

Season Series: The Vancouver Canucks and New York Rangers meet for the first time this season. Henrik Lundqvist made 40 saves and the Rangers scored all of their goals in the third period to defeat the Canucks 4-0 at Rogers Arena in the teams' previous meeting Oct. 18, 2011. The teams don't see each other again until the Rangers come to Vancouver on April 1.

Big story: Canucks coach John Tortorella faces the Rangers in his first regular-season game since he was fired by New York on May 29. Tortorella opposes current Rangers coach Alain Vigneault, who was let go by the Canucks on May 22 and hired after Tortorella was let go.

Tortorella is trying to play down his return to Madison Square Garden; he's more concerned about the play of his current team. Despite a 5-2 victory against the Ottawa Senators on Thursday, the Canucks have won just of their past 11 games and sit in fifth place in the Pacific Division, three points out of a playoff spot.

"Quite honestly, we've beaten this thing up," Tortorella said Friday. "It's another game on the schedule. It's a very important game for us to try to gain some traction. We need to continue trying to gain traction. That's all this is about. We have enough things to worry about with our hockey club."

Team Scope:

Canucks: Vancouver beat the Senators on Thursday by scoring four unanswered goal in an 8:51 stretch of the second period. Daniel Sedin began the surge with his 300th career goal, making him the third Canuck to reach the milestone since Vancouver joined the League in 1970.

"I think we did a good job of just moving on after the first [period]," said Henrik Sedin, who had two assists. "We came in here, we had a good talk, and we came out really strong in the second."

Rangers: New York ended a five-game road trip with 3-2 loss to the Boston Bruins on Friday. Although the Rangers have seven wins in their past nine road games and went 3-2-0 on the trip, Vigneault was very unhappy with their effort at TD Garden.

"We got exactly what we deserved," Vigneault said. "We had too many guys with their 'B' game on the ice against a Stanley Cup finalist, a team that was obviously not happy with their performance [a 6-1 loss Wednesday to the Detroit Red Wings]. Our lack of consistency has been an ongoing issue here with a few of our players and we're a .500 hockey team right now, and that's definitely not good enough."

Who's hot: Henrik Sedin, Vancouver's leading scorer, has points in three of his past four games (3-2-5). Twin brother Daniel has points in four straight (2-5-7). Roberto Luongo made 37 saves against the Senators to improve to 11-7-5 with a 2.32 goals-against average and .915 save percentage … Derek Stepan has points in three of his past five games for the Rangers. Rick Nash has goals in his past two games and three in six games since returning from a concussion.

Injury report: The Canucks are without Jordan Schroeder (sprained ankle) … Rangers forward Derek Dorsett (sprained wrist) missed the game Friday.

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watched chicago and dallas play tonight, great game, two very talented teams, 1-1 end of regulation, went
to a shoot out, then about 20 shooters before chicago's 'smith' scored.

hard skating, hard hitting, quality hockey, fast and exciting.

 

[talloola]

definitely not canucks finest hour. can't throw luongo under the bus for this one, two of the three
goals scored on him were deflections, and one must see how the rest of the team played, so they
can share in the loss, would have been nice if luongo had of stopped the first one, but it wasn't
an easy save by any means, but again, canucks needed to score the first goal, they just can't seem
to do that.

canucks top scorers were out to lunch, and although new york's goalie played a very good game, he was
not challenged by 'ANY' dangerous shots, or deflections, as luongo was, and also lack at times.
canucks skaters were a step behind in most of the game, and rangers obviously bounced back after
a poor finish yesterday in boston, and vineault let them know it before this game.

the sedins, burrows, kesler, (who was late many times on opportunities to redirect the puck toward the
net, and didn't make it.)
those are the players who were sub par today, and canuck's defense was worked very very hard, and at
times just couldn't keep up, but the forwards were not contributing with any puck control at all.

tomorrows game would have been lack's game, so not sure if he will play or torts will come back with
luongo.

this game shows me 'once again' that canucks are just 'not' quite good enough, they need a couple of
young, big strong forwards, who can bring the ability and 'energy' to a game. the sedin's are very
talented players, but when a team can out hustle them, physically out muscle them and cause them to
fall down too much, their game becomes weaker.
Burrows is trying hard, but he isn't an elite player, and needs the sedin's or kesler to be playing
their best 'along side of him', for he to be successful, and that isn't happening.

they skated hard, tried hard, wanted to win, just couldn't in this game.

i'm sure gillis is on the phone almost daily trying to swing some sort of a trade, but like all of
the teams, the 'other' g.m. wants too much from you, and will not give you enough back, so hopefully
he can come up with something to strengthen the team.

have to say kassian was poor again in this game, he has become a work in progress,
and isn't positive in the game at all, I don't think he will be on the ice
tomorrow, I will be very surprised if he is.

booth scored a beautiful goal, starting to look like himself, as I remember him early on with the
canucks.

tomorrow in carolina apparantly at 10 a.m. pacific.

 

[JLM]

definitely not canucks finest hour. .

I watched it until goal #3 and then I decided taking my routine walk would be better for my health. Actually I was ready to pack it in after that one goofy penalty by Kassian.

Maybe there's a "ray of sunshine" with Booth!