How about them Canucks!
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Disclaimers: I love physical hockey. I love guys sticking up for their team-mates. I believe some of these guys need to keep their heads up better. I am not a Canuck fan.
I didn't see the game, just the replays of the hit on Seabrook. Looking at that hit in isolation, comparing it to other hits under the head-shot rules, and adding in the fact that Torres just got back from a suspension for an illegal hit, I have to say Colin Campbell failed again. Torres hit Seabrook in the head, from the blindside and while he was vulnerable... thats 3 strikes on 1 hit. With his record, he should be facing Trevor Gilles type suspension time or the NHL shouldn't be suspending anyone for head shots at all.
I didn't see the game, just the replays of the hit on Seabrook. Looking at that hit in isolation, comparing it to other hits under the head-shot rules, and adding in the fact that Torres just got back from a suspension for an illegal hit, I have to say Colin Campbell failed again. Torres hit Seabrook in the head, from the blindside and while he was vulnerable... thats 3 strikes on 1 hit. With his record, he should be facing Trevor Gilles type suspension time or the NHL shouldn't be suspending anyone for head shots at all.
The hits they are trying most to get out of the game are the ones where a backchecking forward comes across the ice to blindside the forward on the other side of the ice.
It isn't like Seabrook hasn't laid out guys before with headshots. Surf youtube for Seabrook headshots.
Chicago has been given every referee break in this series, minus that hit. Guys are whacking hands and sticks all over the place yet Henrik Sedin gets to sit everytime he even thinks about it. Time for the Hawks to shut up and play rather yack about officiating.
The way some people want the game called all a player would need to do is keep his head down while carrying the puck and he would never worry about getting legally hit.
It isn't like Seabrook hasn't laid out guys before with headshots. Surf youtube for Seabrook headshots.
Chicago has been given every referee break in this series, minus that hit. Guys are whacking hands and sticks all over the place yet Henrik Sedin gets to sit everytime he even thinks about it. Time for the Hawks to shut up and play rather yack about officiating.
The way some people want the game called all a player would need to do is keep his head down while carrying the puck and he would never worry about getting legally hit.
If that is the way you like hockey, then it makes sense to you, but hitting is a big part of the game,
and always has been, and if that part of the game was taken out, it would be a different game, and
should have a different name.
Everything you like in the game is there, as well as hitting, which makes the game more difficult to
play, because players aren't just allowed to free wheel around, passing, and shooting without a big
challenge, and having to worry about being hit while executing your skills, makes the game much
more difficult.
There are hockey leagues without hitting, they are good for many people to participate in, but will
never be a challenge to the NHL, but definitely have their place, as most of those players work
everyday, and have to show up, and not be laid up.
You are obviously one of those pussies who would rather see "figure-skating with pucks" than a real hockey game. I have played the game for 38 years including major-junior, coached on & off for 20, and ref'd for 7 and there was absolutely nothing wrong with Torres' hit. Even the interference call was more reactionary than warranted.
Don't get me wrong, I like to see skilled players make great plays but everyone above midget level understands that stepping on the ice means assuming risk of injury from a collision. These are grown men out there that know what the sport entails and have accepted the possibility of what could happen, if they don't there is always used car sales for a career.
Keep in mind that it is only since Bettman became commissioner that the rules have started to change against good hard hockey and that is simply because he believes the American networks are too sqeamish to broadcast old-school hockey. He is fully to blame for the state of the game today by way of the 'instigator rule' and others that have stopped the players from policing themselves. Every time I see a cheap hit that causes injury and then watch the opposing team do nothing, because they can't under threat of their own suspension, I think Bettman has ruined our national sport forever.
Go and watch some old games with the 'broad street bullies' or the 'big bad Bruins' and you may see a lot of fights and even some bench-clearing brawls but you won't see the flying elbows and sticks we have today.
key word there is 'much', and also the center line being removed has changed the game, allowing a build
up of speed from end to end, and I disagree about the stevens hits, and of course it's 'certain' hits
he did, and had a reputation for, they have been pointed out on tv, as comparisons to 'then' and 'now'
and how those hits would be penalties.
Yeah, I know what you mean about the fighting, I feel somewhat embarrassed when fights break out, as they
look rather stupid to me, BUT I have become more understanding why a 'real' fight can happen, (not
staged ones), and men are so different than women, as they can bash each other for a little while, then
pull apart, and skate away, completely 'over' the moment, and forget it.
If I fought with someone like that, I wouldn't forget it for the rest of my life. lol
So, I have come to the conclusion, that a fight is a 'vent', and heals a problem very quickly., and
yes, the fans love it, why, I'll never know.
I don't see as much violence any more either, the game is so fast now, and great skating, and the days
of the broad street bullies and bench clearing brawls is gone, and that is 'good'.
Of course in a contained area, a game played like hockey is played, by large grown men will be what it is, a
highly charged, fast moving game that is very physical and cannot be gentle, or without situations,
and that is the way the players want it, that is why they decided to play, it is their game, we must
all step back and let them play it the way they want, but within a set of rules, and those rules
for the most part are easy to enforce, but not entirely.
Everything isn't all about what 'real men' want to do and like, it is about all of us, and how
the game can reach out to everyone and still be very physical and exciting and contain very talented
players and hockey plays.
I hated that era of hockey, (still loved the game but not the behavior,)yet I watched it all the time, I remember one game in New Westminster, Westminster Bruins, (major junior hockey), where the bench emptied,
and all the players were on the ice fighting, blood everywhere.
I walked out of the rink area to the concession, and sat there till it was all over,
'I was the only one there'.
Never saw anything quite that bad in the NHL, but years ago there were some doozies.
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could be fun, and the hockey stick could be used like a pole vault to get more height
on those jumps, yippee, maybe we have thought up a new game. lol
Dave Bolin will be back in the game tonight for chicago, but seabrook will be out. Upper body
injury they say, which is all coaches say during playoffs, (unless of course it is lower body injury, so it could be a concussion, or some
other injury which he received in the second hit, or both.
GO CANUCKS GO
injury they say, which is all coaches say during playoffs, (unless of course it is lower body injury, so it could be a concussion, or some
other injury which he received in the second hit, or both.
GO CANUCKS GO
Accompanied by tongues-in-cheek and a few winks, TSN hosts are all over the Seabrook scratch while not coming right out and saying 'I told you so.' It is what it is. Seabrook will be missed by the Hawks tonight and the Cannucks stand to take a slight advantage with his absence - I hope.
Heads up, play clean, get to the net, be physical and take it to them all the way, Cannucks. Rock the ice, Vancouver.
And, I wonder if Bolin (not sure about spelling), should be playing, he has been out for quite some
time, 'concussion', and was just cleared the other day, one practice ?, but I guess they need to
do what they need to do, but for his own health, I'm a little concerned that he is jumping the gun.
Lets go getum, GO CANUCKS GO
Well the Canucks played really bad tonight. Looked like they thought it was in the bag and they mailed it in for 45 minutes. They didn't deserve to win with the effort they gave. Hopefully they can turn this into a positive and realize it takes 60 minutes every night in the playoffs and 150% in an elimination game.
Once again though the officiating sucked as it did for the last 3 weeks of the season. I almost wonder if there has been some decree from Bettman and his yankee pals about not letting the Canucks win the cup. I am also having a real hard time with all the talking heads who never played the game past peewee calling for a suspension of Torres. I guess it gives them ratings but have none of them ever thought it could influence the officiating in future games. Ron Mclean was at it again tonight still calling for a suspension even after the league has ruled on it. God I would love to have that idiot ref one of my games...I would gladly take the penalty to lay him out just once. How some people think Mclean is some Canadian hero is beyond me, he is in Bettman's back pocket and part of the crew trying to remove hitting and fighting from the game.
Game 5 o thursday back in Vancouver, the boys better have their heads out of their a*ses by then, the place should be rockin and the home crowd should give thema boost. Get some big hits and a goal early and they might just put the dagger in the Blackhawks.
GO CANUCKS!!!
Once again though the officiating sucked as it did for the last 3 weeks of the season. I almost wonder if there has been some decree from Bettman and his yankee pals about not letting the Canucks win the cup. I am also having a real hard time with all the talking heads who never played the game past peewee calling for a suspension of Torres. I guess it gives them ratings but have none of them ever thought it could influence the officiating in future games. Ron Mclean was at it again tonight still calling for a suspension even after the league has ruled on it. God I would love to have that idiot ref one of my games...I would gladly take the penalty to lay him out just once. How some people think Mclean is some Canadian hero is beyond me, he is in Bettman's back pocket and part of the crew trying to remove hitting and fighting from the game.
Game 5 o thursday back in Vancouver, the boys better have their heads out of their a*ses by then, the place should be rockin and the home crowd should give thema boost. Get some big hits and a goal early and they might just put the dagger in the Blackhawks.
GO CANUCKS!!!
I love your post, so true, and mcLean makes me sick, he just won't shut up will he. I have been
muttering about him for a couple of days now, (actually for a couple of years)
Yeah, this game can be a very positive influence, knocks them right back into reality, as they came
out tonight, with no emotion, and played 'not to lose', and thought they could hang onto that
style of play, and just go home with the win.
Where was all the hitting they were doing previously, and the sedins were awful, well, they were
all awful, except luongo, he did his best for as long as he could, he had no support.
But I am actually laughing, as on team 1040 some of the calls are from fans who 'do not' know how
to handle a loss, and some of the things they are saying are hillarious, and good for blake price
because he is telling them just 'how' it is, yeah, those guys you talk about, who never went past
pee wee, or probably not even that, they are just sore losers, and don't understand anything about
competition at all, and how there are 'two' teams not just one, and they are ranting and pouting
like children who have had their toys taken away from them.
Just like price said, "If the canucks lose this series, they better close all the bridges."
OK, I'm off to watch the l.a./san jose game, l.a. is outplaying san jose again, I love it, leading
4-2 in the second.
GO CANUCKS GO
that's an interesting reaction, better than many others i've heard tonight. lol
update:
end of regulation play, 5 - 5 tie game between l.a./san jose.
I would be concerned tonight if canucks had played their best and were beaten by a better team, but that was not the case, any team would have beaten them tonight,
just write it off, learn from it, and move on.
choked? I don't know, it sure didn't seem that way, no emotion, no hitting and no intensity,
maybe that is a form of choking, not sure.
just write it off, learn from it, and move on.
choked? I don't know, it sure didn't seem that way, no emotion, no hitting and no intensity,
maybe that is a form of choking, not sure.
Anybody have any idea where the Canucks were was last night? They weren't in Chicago, that's for sure.