House Republicans siding with polluters over healthy American lungs

ironsides

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Sure would. So how many underemployed would there be at $2 an hour? The point is, there are plenty of reason for unemployment, and to give up benefits like cleaner air and water for a few more jobs, that's just asinine when there are other means to the same end.

I don't this the problem is with cleaner air, dirty water etc., but with the overall global warming issue. You cannot convince someone that a company cannot hire them at a livable salary just because somewhere in the future we may change the environment into something that may drive man into extinction. Unfortunately they and their families have to live and eat now.
 

Tonington

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Unfortunately they and their families have to live and eat now.

So fix the economic conditions...it's a false dilemma that your choices are sacrificing quality and quantity of life provided by environmental protection versus unending poverty.

The US was the outlier in this recession. And environmental regs have nothing to do with it.

Take a look at these graphs:

Now compare how the US fared with respect to employment, compared to the other G7 nations:


Something aint right.How do you square the above average GDP performance with the worst employment performance?

If jobs are outsourced, a company can make profits and thus improve domestic GDP while hurting employment. What's likely happening, is that low wage jobs are being lost.

You could cut the regulations to nil, and jobs would come back, but ask yourself if you want to live in a place like Mexico City? Is it worth it?

An alternative is to embrace cleaner air, and cleaner water, and stimulate domestic demand for new technologies. Offer tax breaks to manufacturers like Germany does. High wage manufacturing. Or Implement a carbon tax offset by a reduction in capital gains/income tax. Increase demand for clean tech, and spur investment within America.

There's many ways to get employment back that won't sacrifice life expectancy or your quality of life...
 

ironsides

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I think under the new 2011 tax structure along with no tax incentives that are already in place, a lot of those out sourced jobs will either be taxed and forced to come back to the U.S., or the companies will be moving out. I have changed my mind, and can see a recovery coming, just in different places within the U.S..