Hitler: A Man Of Peace, In Doc: Love, Hate, & Propaganda, Episode 2

[dumpthemonarchy]

You're 180 degrees off here. The doc wasn't selling the notion that Hitler was a man of peace. It tries to analyze how the Nazi propaganda machine sold the notion of him as one to people who should have known better.

If the doc Hitler is a man of peace, they have to show some evidence that he has been in his life. Right? The statement needs to be backed up. What George S. said is simply an "argument" that holds no water, that is the problem. What many people believed, is not fact.

This ain't no abstract discussion. Hitler was a real man who did real deeds. And most of those deeds were not what people would consider peaceful.

The doc does not try to justify what he did, and many people in the world are okay with what he tried. Mongolians think Genghis Khan is the greatest, despite his brutal acts.

 

[cdarro]

If the doc Hitler is a man of peace, they have to show some evidence that he has been in his life. Right? The statement needs to be backed up. What George S. said is simply an "argument" that holds no water, that is the problem. What many people believed, is not fact.

This ain't no abstract discussion. Hitler was a real man who did real deeds. And most of those deeds were not what people would consider peaceful.

The doc does not try to justify what he did, and many people in the world are okay with what he tried. Mongolians think Genghis Khan is the greatest, despite his brutal acts.

You're still missing the point, purposely, perhaps. Stombo is not saying that he believes Hitler was a man of peace, i.e., making an argument. He is being sarcastic. He is asking "How, if Hitler was a man of peace as the young girl (and millions of other Germans) seemed to believe, did he get those people to follow him into war?"
Again, you seem to have missed the irony (where the apparent meaning is the opposite of the actual meaning) in his words.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

You're still missing the point, purposely, perhaps. Stombo is not saying that he believes Hitler was a man of peace, i.e., making an argument. He is being sarcastic. He is asking "How, if Hitler was a man of peace as the young girl (and millions of other Germans) seemed to believe, did he get those people to follow him into war?"
Again, you seem to have missed the irony (where the apparent meaning is the opposite of the actual meaning) in his words.

Hmm. What Stroubo said is not what he meant. Problem is, that girl, in her little world, thought things were fine and had the though in her head that Hitler was a man of peace. She was a hard core believer in any nonsense Hitler said. She was not a critical thinker. Stroumbo doesn't get it because the show lacks context.

We all know Hitler was not a man of peace by any means. Yet, for this show, to discuss how propaganda works, he seems to become that. I think you're talking about pseudo history, historical actors become props for ideas. Reconstructing a past that did not exist.

 

[cdarro]

Hmm. What Stroubo said is not what he meant. Problem is, that girl, in her little world, thought things were fine and had the though in her head that Hitler was a man of peace. She was a hard core believer in any nonsense Hitler said. She was not a critical thinker. Stroumbo doesn't get it because the show lacks context.

We all know Hitler was not a man of peace by any means. Yet, for this show, to discuss how propaganda works, he seems to become that. I think you're talking about pseudo history, historical actors become props for ideas. Reconstructing a past that did not exist.

Believe what you need to believe. We obviously came away with completely different takes on the doc.

 

[petros]

What about Crystal Night, the Night of the Long Knives, the burning of the Reichstag, street fighting with communists and other political parties? Hundreds and possibly thousands of Germans were killed in the decade leading up to 1939 by the Nazis.

What about the Eugenics movement in the USA, the use of black people to test drugs and disease like syphilis and the sterilization programs at the very same time as Hitler retaliating to Judea declaring war on Germany in 33?


American, German, Jew, Russian, Canuck it doesn't matter people worldwide are all ****ed in the head and you and I are too..

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Believe what you need to believe. We obviously came away with completely different takes on the doc.

Maybe you don't have clue about history. And George S. is an entertainer and I doubt he has a clue either.

 

[cdarro]

Maybe you don't have clue about history. And George S. is an entertainer and I doubt he has a clue either.

Hail Dump the Monarchy! All knowing, all wise....

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Hail Dump the Monarchy! All knowing, all wise....

I've never heard anything serious from Stroumbo and he went off the deep end here. Supporting your pals all the time might make you an easy victim of propaganda.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Calling everyone clued out is a bit much.

But this so-called doc really bothers me. For one thing, there are no Canadian academics in it. I read elsewhere that it seems like a US-UK production. So Stroumbo may be just mouthing words he does not understand on a pretty serious topic.

I remember in grade 3, the teacher scolding another student not to write anything down in your notebook in a project that you don't understand. This seems like Stroumbo here. I know WW 2 is not his bag. Even the academics seem too light. This is a very flawed show.