Hillary a MONSTER?

normbc9

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Hi Loon,
When desperate people get to the height of their desperation they start doing strange things. It is my guess she will even make a scene at the Party Convention too. I've always seen a lot of good old down and dirty street fighter in her. Some of that is showing now. Monica is no doubt out of sight but may pop up soon.
 

dancing-loon

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Hi Loon,
When desperate people get to the height of their desperation they start doing strange things. It is my guess she will even make a scene at the Party Convention too. I've always seen a lot of good old down and dirty street fighter in her. Some of that is showing now. Monica is no doubt out of sight but may pop up soon.
Hi, Norm;
no doubt, she is a fighter! BUT... she should have had the decency to quit, when the obvious was obvious. This way she only showed all to clearly that she was in the race for her own glory and ambition, not the party, nor the country. It was a challenge to win the GOLD = the Presidency, and that's what she was after. I find Obama more mature and much better suited for the job. He will have a tough time against McCain - against the Neo-Conservatives, who will use all the mud-slinging they can think of, as well as all the tricks in the book to stay in power.

Anyway, Hillary seems to have finally listened!
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton will endorse Senator Barack Obama on Saturday, bringing a close to her 17-month campaign for the White House, aides said. Her decision came after Democrats urged her Wednesday to leave the race and allow the party to coalesce around Mr.Obama.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/us/politics/05dems.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
 

Kreskin

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Last night they were saying Obama's campaign team is an amazingly organized. I hope he keeps the momentum going and really slugs it out with McCain. He has been all nice and politically correct with Hillary. Now the real fun can start.
 

Kreskin

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Hillary plans to "suspend" her campaign. Does that mean it could resume at a later date, like during the convention?
 

talloola

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Hillary plans to "suspend" her campaign. Does that mean it could resume at a later date, like during the convention?

They say it means that she can hang onto her delegates, and when they get to the
convention, they will still be hers, and it also means that she hasn't actually dropped
out, just suspended her campaign, and actually John Edwards did the same thing when
he stopped campaigning, so I can't figure out what that means, is she going to try to
change everyone's mind at the convention. Someone please tell me what that actually
means, cause she can't make her delegates do anything, they can do what they want, I
think.
 

dancing-loon

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Hillary is a clever lawyer and this suspending is a forethought to cover her bases. In case Obama gets killed or dies a natural death, she will automatically be the winner of the nomination. If she quits outright, then that would not be the case. I don't know the procedure for that kind of scenario, but I thought suspending her campaign could be advantageous for her in case of Obama's demise.
 

dancing-loon

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The New York Times gives sort of an assessment of Hillary's performance.

The Long Road to a Clinton Exit

Although Mrs. Clinton proved a more agile candidate than many had expected, she built a campaign that was suffused in overconfidence, riven by acrimony and weighted by the emotional baggage of a marriage between former and would-be presidents.

And as they tried to master a new political era, the Clintons demanded loyalty from those who once surrounded them and felt betrayed by people they assumed would be with them again.

“What hurt them was their sense of entitlement that the presidency was theirs and all the acolytes should fall in line,” said Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, a former Clinton cabinet officer who endorsed Mr. Obama only to be branded a Judas. “Instead of accepting it, they turned on the acolytes. It was their war room mentality, to attack when something doesn’t go their way, and it just reminded me of the old days.”

Just as they did in 1992, the Clintons were offering two for the price of one. As Mr. Clinton surveyed the field, he could not quite believe that an upstart, inexperienced senator from Illinois could be a serious alternative to such an accomplished figure as his wife.

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talking in early meetings about her need to spark a “movement” and dismissing Mr. Obama as a glamorous personality who would not connect with working-class voters the way she could, campaign officials said. “He may be the J.F.K. in the race,” Mr. Penn told Mrs. Clinton last year, according to an insider, “but you are the Bobby.”

As for Mr. Clinton, he boiled with resentment that a candidate with as little experience as Mr. Obama was given what he considered a free pass by the news media. Yet his tone struck some as dismissive. When Mr. Clinton referred publicly to Mr. Obama as a “kid,” Representative James E. Clyburn, Democrat of South Carolina, recalled in an interview that a fellow black congressman said, “I don’t know why he didn’t just call him ‘boy’ and get it over with.”

“(Bill)Clinton was using code words that most of us in the South can recognize when we hear that kind of stuff,” Mr. Clyburn said.

Read much more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us...kEs2b+dkmKAQ9w
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Bill is at least as fierce to win as his wife is! That kind of combined power I don't like. He should have completely abstained from helping his wife... she should make it on her own, with her own strength and charisma, her own policies.

It speaks a great deal for Obama's personal singular strength to have come this far against the Clinton Powerhouse... and he kept his composure..
 

quandary121

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Maybe she's a Reptilian like Bush and Blair.
Many claims of this have been sited and there are many many videos saying such its hard to tell the truth when they all look so fake or just not convincing enough



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fDvF9Ri9I1Y
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1TkxMzd3HBY




As for Aliens SHAPE SHIFTING this is pretty creepy
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj8741m2jLc
 
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talloola

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The New York Times gives sort of an assessment of Hillary's performance.

The Long Road to a Clinton Exit

Although Mrs. Clinton proved a more agile candidate than many had expected, she built a campaign that was suffused in overconfidence, riven by acrimony and weighted by the emotional baggage of a marriage between former and would-be presidents.

And as they tried to master a new political era, the Clintons demanded loyalty from those who once surrounded them and felt betrayed by people they assumed would be with them again.

“What hurt them was their sense of entitlement that the presidency was theirs and all the acolytes should fall in line,” said Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, a former Clinton cabinet officer who endorsed Mr. Obama only to be branded a Judas. “Instead of accepting it, they turned on the acolytes. It was their war room mentality, to attack when something doesn’t go their way, and it just reminded me of the old days.”

Just as they did in 1992, the Clintons were offering two for the price of one. As Mr. Clinton surveyed the field, he could not quite believe that an upstart, inexperienced senator from Illinois could be a serious alternative to such an accomplished figure as his wife.

....talking in early meetings about her need to spark a “movement” and dismissing Mr. Obama as a glamorous personality who would not connect with working-class voters the way she could, campaign officials said. “He may be the J.F.K. in the race,” Mr. Penn told Mrs. Clinton last year, according to an insider, “but you are the Bobby.”

As for Mr. Clinton, he boiled with resentment that a candidate with as little experience as Mr. Obama was given what he considered a free pass by the news media. Yet his tone struck some as dismissive. When Mr. Clinton referred publicly to Mr. Obama as a “kid,” Representative James E. Clyburn, Democrat of South Carolina, recalled in an interview that a fellow black congressman said, “I don’t know why he didn’t just call him ‘boy’ and get it over with.”

“(Bill)Clinton was using code words that most of us in the South can recognize when we hear that kind of stuff,” Mr. Clyburn said.

Read much more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us...kEs2b+dkmKAQ9w
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Bill is at least as fierce to win as his wife is! That kind of combined power I don't like. He should have completely abstained from helping his wife... she should make it on her own, with her own strength and charisma, her own policies.

It speaks a great deal for Obama's personal singular strength to have come this far against the Clinton Powerhouse... and he kept his composure..

Very good article, and, yes I think Hilliary should have campaigned without Bill, he did
not help her at all, and they were definitely underestimating the public, if they thought
everyone was going to forget the negative parts of his (social side), of his presidency,
and it would be a step back to allow him to wander around the whitehouse again, (what
might he find) to amuse him.
Senator Obama is a very classy guy, with a classy wife, and it will be such a breath of fresh air, when they reside there, and another step back in progress, would be John McCain
residing there, it seems that the american people can see a great opportunity here, for
their country to move ahead, and O bama will be loved and admired around the world.
I'm glad he is young, and I'm glad he isn't marred by the same ole same ole, in Washington