Heard Immigration Minister Kenny on the CBC This Week

L Gilbert

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Canada is an extension of Europe, we speak languages that are spoken in Europe, English and French, the former dominating.
Oh, is that why Canuckville is called the "Great White North"? lmao
We all jumped from tree to tree and then came out of Africa.
I can believe that of you but not most of humanity.
Aboriginals are immigrants too, except they came so long ago they actually can't remember Asia. Canada is unlike most countries in that it was made far after old countries like China and France, who are indigenous to their countries because they don't have a story of coming from somewhere else. We do. In the history of the world, people fought for land, some won, some lost. Which we are reminded of when articles say there are over 5000 languages and only 200 countries.
Flipflopping from "we all jumped from tree to tree and then came out of Africa" to "like China and France, who are indigenous to their countries because they don't have a story of coming from somewhere else". Yer killin me. lmao

So what's the problem?

Chinese and Indians have been here 160 years.
Actually the Chinese have been heere since at least as long ago as the 18th century.
 

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Actually the Chinese have been heere since at least as long ago as the 18th century.

Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early. I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.
I guess this goes to point out that only those with European backgrounds can build successful infrastructures and countries...
 

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Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early. I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.
I guess this goes to point out that only those with European backgrounds can build successful infrastructures and countries...



Chinese labour built a vast majority of the rail system across Canada.

The Great wall of China.

Nautical charts and technology, that exceeded European knowledge of the time.

Wow Durry. When you stuff your feet in your mouth you use some serious force!!!

You and dumpster should get together. At the very least you two could help each other pull your feet out of your mouths after each post.
 

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Chinese labour built a vast majority of the rail system across Canada.
The Great wall of China.
Nautical charts and technology, that exceeded European knowledge of the time.
Wow Durry. When you stuff your feet in your mouth you use some serious force!!!
You and dumpster should get together. At the very least you two could help each other pull your feet out of your mouths after each post.
The chinese only helped build the BC portion of the RR, not the vast majority as you incorrectly state. The europeans provided the engineering and construction skills and the chinese provided some of the labour. It's obvious your eastern schools can't teach you sh^t.
History: Building the Canadian Pacific Railway - Chinese - Explore the Communities - The Kids' Site of Canadian Settlement - Library and Archives Canada
The Chinese are still building china which is about a century behind N America. They were once great inventors but all they seem to be able to do now is to copy whatever the US builds/does..
 

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I'll eat that one. But lets look at what you said...

Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early.
I may have erred on their participation. You said they didn't do anything at all.

The europeans provided the engineering and construction skills and the chinese provided some of the labour.
Some? Your own link says 17,000. Other sources say that only 2% of the workers on the BC portion, were European.

It's obvious your eastern schools can't teach you sh^t.
They taught me how to read. They also taught me about China...

I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China...
Since you moved the goalposts in your reply...

The Chinese are still building china which is about a century behind N America.
A decade maybe, but only in certain aspects. They have a fairly decent space program. One that far surpasses Canada's.

...it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.
I'm sure someone as bereft of any form of education, would think the rail system, that bound the country, isn't meaningful.

They were once great inventors but all they seem to be able to do now is to copy whatever the US builds/does..
That's an excellent way to negate the fact that they were leaps and bounds ahead of Europeans at one point...:roll:
 

L Gilbert

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Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early. I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.
I guess this goes to point out that only those with European backgrounds can build successful infrastructures and countries...
lol
"Meaningful" is a subjective and relative term and in your case, extremely limited.
History of China

The chinese only helped build the BC portion of the RR, not the vast majority as you incorrectly state. The europeans provided the engineering and construction skills and the chinese provided some of the labour. It's obvious your eastern schools can't teach you sh^t.
History: Building the Canadian Pacific Railway - Chinese - Explore the Communities - The Kids' Site of Canadian Settlement - Library and Archives Canada
The Chinese are still building china which is about a century behind N America. They were once great inventors but all they seem to be able to do now is to copy whatever the US builds/does..
So? North America had to catch up to Europe. Wait till it catches up with the rest of the industrialised planet.
 

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Kenney said also, "Unlike the Chretien Liberals in the 1990s, who reduced immigration for a few years, the Tories have not, and have kept immigration at the 250,000 level." Just more cheap labour, a flunky of capital. All those carpenters, engineers and marketers from Asia and Africa, who knew.
 

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Met another immigrant, trained as a physiotherapist in China, who is working as a janitor in Surrey. Been working for two years to get her papers here. Canada does not have a shortage of professionals. Sask and Alta have a few oil patch skill shortages, but that's about all folks. Canada lies big time to professionals who want to immigrate here.

The fed govt lies and provincial professional licensing orgs just shrug and say we have plenty already. It reminds me of a sign from the 1930s "Unemployed men, keep moving, we can't take care of our own"

Canadian immigration policy is to increase the population, take in poor Latin Americans instead. There's no need to lie. Take in people who once they arrive, they feel they have a better life and are grateful to be here. Why does that seem so difficult?
 
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Sask and Alta have a few oil patch skill shortages, but that's about all folks. Canada lies big time to professionals who want to immigrate here.
Yup 300,000 skilled TRADES in the next ten years. What about all the other professionals and unskilled labour needed to meet the needs of the 300,000 skilled trades in oil alone?
 

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Yup 300,000 skilled TRADES in the next ten years. What about all the other professionals and unskilled labour needed to meet the needs of the 300,000 skilled trades in oil alone?

Check the headlines, check the articles, they are all LOOMING shortages, they are not here now, today, in the present. And it's usually in a survey, a forecast, a prognostication, a guess. Great for capital, bad for labour. We need more immigrants, many many more. And boy, when these shortages hit, they are going to be catastrophes, worse than the hunger games. You just wait. Chicken little is here, now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Check the headlines, check the articles, they are all LOOMING shortages, they are not here now, today, in the present. And it's usually in a survey, a forecast, a prognostication, a guess. Great for capital, bad for labour. We need more immigrants, many many more. And boy, when these shortages hit, they are going to be catastrophes, worse than the hunger games. You just wait. Chicken little is here, now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No problems! That's America is for. Skilled labour that knows the language.

it doesn't look like they'll find work at home for quite sometime.
 

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No problems! That's America is for. Skilled labour that knows the language.

it doesn't look like they'll find work at home for quite sometime.

Sure, but why is the oilpatch is looking to Ireland for skilled labour then? Could worse in USA than they say.

Many Americans could go to China and teach English. They would like you to have a degree, but if you're blonde, young and attractive, few worries as the Chinese are known to be deal makers.
 Native Speakers are needed now, Teach in Beautiful Romantic and Leisure city - Hangzhou, the Capital city of Zhejiang Province
 

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Who said it's the oil patch? Sask labour went looking for all sorts of people from accountants to zoologists.
 

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Who said it's the oil patch? Sask labour went looking for all sorts of people from accountants to zoologists.

But we can't persuade or force immigrants to move there, they have full rights as citizens as soon as they land. they can work where they wish as they have full mobility rights. It's not always the smartest or best way for the country, but it's the way we do it. Just let them flood into warm Vancouver. Part of the "just let them in philosophy" that prevails, screw the rules.