Harper’s “Measured” Response
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You are questioning my patriotism? I who bleed maple leaf red? You speak of our Peacekeepers. Tell me, what purpose do they serve other than to be at the beck and call of the UN? I want our troops home. I do not give a shit about those other nations. They are not our problem. I want Canada for Canadians. Sending Canadians over to Afghanistan to die at the hands of towel-heads does not constitute Canadian actions. We do not benefit from this activity. All we get are more dead Canadians and for what? Afghanistan is not a threat to Canadian sovereignty. Never has been and never will be. The Canadian Forces were created for the defence of Canada, not to serve as another country's bitches. For this reason I demand we opt out of the UN and NATO/NORAD. We have absolutely no use for either of those bitch organisations who would seek to send Canadians to a death that never served the security of a fellow Canadian. Canadians should only die for Canadians. Who gives a shit what happens out in far-flung Africa? Let the fuckers blow each other up. I don't care what they do to each other. That is their problem, not ours. Canadian taxpayers do not work their asses off to support a military that is not even protecting them but who is protecting a goddamn nothing third-world country no one gives a rat's ass about.
On a second note I would suggest Canada end all foreign aid immediately. I weary of seeing my hard-earned tax dollars ending up in the hands of a dumb African woman who knows she cannot feed her own 9 children yet decides to have another 9 children. This has to end. Only then will the dumb bitch learn she needs to stop breeding like a rabbit.
Who said anything about the need for a mighty military to be a part of peace talks? I never made such a statement and you know it. You are merely attempting to sidetrack my point with such claims.
By the way, I am a far greater patriot than you are. I am certain there are those on this board who would agree with my assessment. I would die for my country. Would you?
EastSideScotian said:
You are questioning my patriotism? I who bleed maple leaf red? You speak of our Peacekeepers. Tell me, what purpose do they serve other than to be at the beck and call of the UN? I want our troops home. I do not give a shit about those other nations. They are not our problem. I want Canada for Canadians. Sending Canadians over to Afghanistan to die at the hands of towel-heads does not constitute Canadian actions. We do not benefit from this activity. All we get are more dead Canadians and for what? Afghanistan is not a threat to Canadian sovereignty. Never has been and never will be. The Canadian Forces were created for the defence of Canada, not to serve as another country's bitches. For this reason I demand we opt out of the UN and NATO/NORAD. We have absolutely no use for either of those bitch organisations who would seek to send Canadians to a death that never served the security of a fellow Canadian. Canadians should only die for Canadians. Who gives a shit what happens out in far-flung Africa? Let the fuckers blow each other up. I don't care what they do to each other. That is their problem, not ours. Canadian taxpayers do not work their asses off to support a military that is not even protecting them but who is protecting a goddamn nothing third-world country no one gives a rat's ass about.
On a second note I would suggest Canada end all foreign aid immediately. I weary of seeing my hard-earned tax dollars ending up in the hands of a dumb African woman who knows she cannot feed her own 9 children yet decides to have another 9 children. This has to end. Only then will the dumb bitch learn she needs to stop breeding like a rabbit.
Who said anything about the need for a mighty military to be a part of peace talks? I never made such a statement and you know it. You are merely attempting to sidetrack my point with such claims.
By the way, I am a far greater patriot than you are. I am certain there are those on this board who would agree with my assessment. I would die for my country. Would you?
SaintLucifer, I have never heard such a thing before - I think it's hilarious.
Going on the axiom that Afghanistan and other world problems are not a threat to our way of life then I would say your logic is pretty sound. As long as you prescribe to the philosophy that an unethical or immoral act can only be done through action and never through inaction. Which is valid philosophy.
Just not a very friendly one!
I prescribe to a "Greater Good" mind set. To use Africa as an example I don't belive we should be giving HIV treatment drugs to the Africans. Prolonging the life of HIV infected individuals is only furthering the spread of HIV and costing more money and hurting the economy even more. Currently Africa is way too over populated for their economy to really start working as it should. A mass death due to HIV is (and I hate to say it) really what Africa needs to jump start it's future. Other Aid to Africa is also a problem, as many people have said throwing money at Africa right now is throwing it in to a bottomless pit. but enough about africa that is a whole other discussion.
Back on topic I have to disagree with your Axiom, providing stability virtually anywhere in the world can help better our own lives and better ensure that our sovereignty and way of life are not threatend.
The fact is the higher the GNP the better off a country is. the higher the GDP the higher the GNP (and vise versa), and so it stands to reason, they higher the WP (world product) the better off we all will be.
Going on the axiom that Afghanistan and other world problems are not a threat to our way of life then I would say your logic is pretty sound. As long as you prescribe to the philosophy that an unethical or immoral act can only be done through action and never through inaction. Which is valid philosophy.
Just not a very friendly one!
I prescribe to a "Greater Good" mind set. To use Africa as an example I don't belive we should be giving HIV treatment drugs to the Africans. Prolonging the life of HIV infected individuals is only furthering the spread of HIV and costing more money and hurting the economy even more. Currently Africa is way too over populated for their economy to really start working as it should. A mass death due to HIV is (and I hate to say it) really what Africa needs to jump start it's future. Other Aid to Africa is also a problem, as many people have said throwing money at Africa right now is throwing it in to a bottomless pit. but enough about africa that is a whole other discussion.
Back on topic I have to disagree with your Axiom, providing stability virtually anywhere in the world can help better our own lives and better ensure that our sovereignty and way of life are not threatend.
The fact is the higher the GNP the better off a country is. the higher the GDP the higher the GNP (and vise versa), and so it stands to reason, they higher the WP (world product) the better off we all will be.
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What unethical and immoral act? Removing Canadian Forces from troublespots abroad and ending all economic aid to other troublespots is unethical and immoral? How so? It is our money and those are our military forces. I do not propose to invade anyone or steal other people's money. Our Forces were designed to protect Canadians. What does serving in Afghanistan have to do with protecting Canadians? No one gives a shit about that dunghole. I could care less if the Taliban ruled that country. They would never pose a threat to Canada. When they do pose a threat to Canada then and only then do we make bitches out of the Afghan men to the point of forcing them to wear burqas during a forced march. As for economic aid how is withholding it unethical and immoral? It is our money, not Africa's. That continent can rot and die for all I care. They should not be receiving a single penny from Canada. Not a one.
You state where Africa is overpopulated for their economy to work as it should. What does their population have to do with their economy? By your own logic China should be a goddamned shambles yet that nation is owner of the world's fastest-growing economy (thanks to the Americans). That fact alone ridicules your logic.
How can providing stability in Africa better Canada? As far as Canada is concerned that country means nothing to Canada. Not economically and not politically. It is just... there. We should not care what happens in Africa. Everything that has happened in that country the Africans brought upon themselves. They made their bed. Let them lie in it.
Africa has absolutely zero affect upon Canada's GNP, GDP or bloody WP. They can KISS my ASS.
Graeme said:
What unethical and immoral act? Removing Canadian Forces from troublespots abroad and ending all economic aid to other troublespots is unethical and immoral? How so? It is our money and those are our military forces. I do not propose to invade anyone or steal other people's money. Our Forces were designed to protect Canadians. What does serving in Afghanistan have to do with protecting Canadians? No one gives a shit about that dunghole. I could care less if the Taliban ruled that country. They would never pose a threat to Canada. When they do pose a threat to Canada then and only then do we make bitches out of the Afghan men to the point of forcing them to wear burqas during a forced march. As for economic aid how is withholding it unethical and immoral? It is our money, not Africa's. That continent can rot and die for all I care. They should not be receiving a single penny from Canada. Not a one.
You state where Africa is overpopulated for their economy to work as it should. What does their population have to do with their economy? By your own logic China should be a goddamned shambles yet that nation is owner of the world's fastest-growing economy (thanks to the Americans). That fact alone ridicules your logic.
How can providing stability in Africa better Canada? As far as Canada is concerned that country means nothing to Canada. Not economically and not politically. It is just... there. We should not care what happens in Africa. Everything that has happened in that country the Africans brought upon themselves. They made their bed. Let them lie in it.
Africa has absolutely zero affect upon Canada's GNP, GDP or bloody WP. They can KISS my ASS.
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Hi girls and boys! First post for me on this MARVELOUS web site...
Just wanted to point out that Africa is not a country! So don't believe everything he says!
Also, Africa affects Canada's GDP. Even if sarcasm was intended, it needs to be said that it has an effect which is surely more substantial than what one would consider to be minimal.
Maybe he was referring to South Africa in a rather loose sense, in which case, the latter comment I responded to is still incorrect.
Maybe by country, he means continent; and by affect, he means effect.
-wise ass
SaintLucifer said:
Hi girls and boys! First post for me on this MARVELOUS web site...
Just wanted to point out that Africa is not a country! So don't believe everything he says!
Also, Africa affects Canada's GDP. Even if sarcasm was intended, it needs to be said that it has an effect which is surely more substantial than what one would consider to be minimal.
Maybe he was referring to South Africa in a rather loose sense, in which case, the latter comment I responded to is still incorrect.
Maybe by country, he means continent; and by affect, he means effect.
-wise ass
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This is a true, no doubt.
Often, we find that it's the US and Israel (and every now and then, the Federated States of Micronesia or some other mucky muck country) against the rest of the world -world opinion- and that's usually not enough to dissuade Israel from doing what others feel is wrong.
DurkaDurka said:
This is a true, no doubt.
Often, we find that it's the US and Israel (and every now and then, the Federated States of Micronesia or some other mucky muck country) against the rest of the world -world opinion- and that's usually not enough to dissuade Israel from doing what others feel is wrong.
SaintLucifer:
I can't dignify what you said with a real response, it is too bad you are so belligerent and ignorant.
You obviously don't have any grasp at all on how the world works and you obviously didn't understand a word of what I said. None of your rebuttals make any sense, and so I am done talking with you on this subject.
I can't dignify what you said with a real response, it is too bad you are so belligerent and ignorant.
You obviously don't have any grasp at all on how the world works and you obviously didn't understand a word of what I said. None of your rebuttals make any sense, and so I am done talking with you on this subject.
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Yes, yes. Africa is a continent. :roll: I am posting all over the place, collecting asses as I go along. One tiny oversight and you decide you may get the better of me? Please child.
Africa affects Canada's GDP? In what sense? I should like to see your proof especially considering by far our greatest trading partner and pretty much the only nation that may affect our GDP is the United States of America. By comparison Africa is a mere gnat to be squashed. Africa has been, is, and always shall be irrelevant to Canada. Wipe Africa off the map and Canada does not even notice.
humanbeing said:
Yes, yes. Africa is a continent. :roll: I am posting all over the place, collecting asses as I go along. One tiny oversight and you decide you may get the better of me? Please child.
Africa affects Canada's GDP? In what sense? I should like to see your proof especially considering by far our greatest trading partner and pretty much the only nation that may affect our GDP is the United States of America. By comparison Africa is a mere gnat to be squashed. Africa has been, is, and always shall be irrelevant to Canada. Wipe Africa off the map and Canada does not even notice.
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Where is your proof that it does not affect Canada's GDP? The burden of proof lies on you for making the statement initially. I'm not going to go out of my way to prove something so completely obvious - if you cannot realize it after a few moments of thought, I doubt posting proof here right in front of your nose will help.
I already figured it was a simple error on your behalf.
Your ridiculous post merits the response, however.
SaintLucifer said:
Where is your proof that it does not affect Canada's GDP? The burden of proof lies on you for making the statement initially. I'm not going to go out of my way to prove something so completely obvious - if you cannot realize it after a few moments of thought, I doubt posting proof here right in front of your nose will help.
SaintLucifer said:
I already figured it was a simple error on your behalf.
Your ridiculous post merits the response, however.
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Thank you for the welcome.
I hope I am not giving the wrong impression so far... I prefer good discussion over knit-picking the silly details of some hatemonger's posts.
Kreskin said:
Thank you for the welcome.
I hope I am not giving the wrong impression so far... I prefer good discussion over knit-picking the silly details of some hatemonger's posts.
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I never stated Africa affects our GDP. My statement that Africa is a nobody that does not affect our GDP was in response to another's claim that it did.
humanbeing said:
I never stated Africa affects our GDP. My statement that Africa is a nobody that does not affect our GDP was in response to another's claim that it did.
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I know what you stated... Why do you think I replied in the first place?
Anyhow, if you are trying to suggest that I shouldn't reply to something asinine that was posted in public, then maybe you should consider using the private message (PM) feature next time so as not to rouse the response of someone who wants to correct such an obvious factual error.
SaintLucifer said:
I know what you stated... Why do you think I replied in the first place?
Anyhow, if you are trying to suggest that I shouldn't reply to something asinine that was posted in public, then maybe you should consider using the private message (PM) feature next time so as not to rouse the response of someone who wants to correct such an obvious factual error.