Harper says he couldn't live with himself if he reduced Canada's mission in Afghan

[wallyj]

Provide a link,please.If you can I will apologize. I took a look around a few sites and could not find a figure even close to 6 million. I did find a few places that discussed the poppy fields that were destroyed. As for childre dying, the infant mortality rate has gone way down since 2002,resulting in more children living,and living better lives in the past 5 years.

 

[darkbeaver]

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_25478.shtml
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

I was wrong the totals are for both Irag and Afghanistan. In any case an apology is not necessary Wallyj.

 

[gerryh]

http://http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

invalid link

 

[wallyj]

The first link works. I took a browse through the article. As Mark Twain said."there are lies,damn lies,and statistics".Her work is based on the estimate of 3.2 million "post-invasion non-violent excess deaths'. Quite the mouthful. Though she does use foot-notes at times this figure is not attributed to anyone .... The second paragraph starts with "the racist war-criminal U.S. state ",hmmm,this doesn't sound like a scientific analysis to me. She then goes on to 'assume in the fourth paragraph. In the fifth paragraph,Afghanistan is compared to Auschwitz,damn there is that NAZI reference that destroys most arguments.

 

[darkbeaver]

The first link works. I took a browse through the article. As Mark Twain said."there are lies,damn lies,and statistics".Her work is based on the estimate of 3.2 million "post-invasion non-violent excess deaths'. Quite the mouthful. Though she does use foot-notes at times this figure is not attributed to anyone .... The second paragraph starts with "the racist war-criminal U.S. state ",hmmm,this doesn't sound like a scientific analysis to me. She then goes on to 'assume in the fourth paragraph. In the fifth paragraph,Afghanistan is compared to Auschwitz,damn there is that NAZI reference that destroys most arguments.

Firstly Wallyj the author is a man, and the second link provides his credentials, bit of an overachiever. How about an explanation of how the Nazi (fascist) reference destroys the argument. Surely you don,t believe fascism is extinct do you? Uncle Sam is a textbook case old stick. So is the UK and Canada will follow in short order.

 

[wallyj]

Sorry,thought it was a woman. Did the remark about the racist war-criminal US state not make you wonder if you this may be a tad slanted? I followed the link at the bottom and it leads to an Islamic website. Hmm,would that taint his findings? Does this man take into account that the great majority of deaths in both Afghanistan and Iraq are caused by other Iraqi's and Afghans and not by coalition forces. I think yesterday 34 people were blown up in Iraq by suicide bombers,including 4 children,Is this taken into account? I checked a bit of his credentials,He is a pharmacoligist,specializing in botany. Is there facism in the world? Yes,but once one starts comparing Bush,Harper,America,Canada,etc.,to Hitler and the nazis,you know that you are dealing with someone who is using propaganda and hysteria to make a point. Or they have no frigging clue about Hitler,Harper,Bush,etc. That is why dragging out the nazi boogeyman destroys arguments. As I have stated before, if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job,you do not have the smarts to discuss the middle east.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Did you just make up those figures,maybe pulled them out of your ass attached to the greek guy's condom? The fatalities are not even close to that even if you include Iraq ,Lebanon,Israel,in fact the whole Middle East.Poppy fields have been eradicated!! Your facts are as baseless as your opinions.

Hey Wally tone it down, you don't have to tell everyone your brain is unable to except fairness or indifference in opinion. You must have from time to time emotional problems , come on man we are all brothers and sisters here. Any one who has to make belligerent assertion such as the condom and the Greek, that taking it to a realm where you show your brass and we luff in disgust knowing what this ****ed up world some times is all about. Thank you for letting us all recognize that distinction.

 

[darkbeaver]

Sorry,thought it was a woman. Did the remark about the racist war-criminal US state not make you wonder if you this may be a tad slanted? I followed the link at the bottom and it leads to an Islamic website. Hmm,would that taint his findings? Does this man take into account that the great majority of deaths in both Afghanistan and Iraq are caused by other Iraqi's and Afghans and not by coalition forces. I think yesterday 34 people were blown up in Iraq by suicide bombers,including 4 children,Is this taken into account? I checked a bit of his credentials,He is a pharmacoligist,specializing in botany. Is there facism in the world? Yes,but once one starts comparing Bush,Harper,America,Canada,etc.,to Hitler and the nazis,you know that you are dealing with someone who is using propaganda and hysteria to make a point. Or they have no frigging clue about Hitler,Harper,Bush,etc. That is why dragging out the nazi boogeyman destroys arguments. As I have stated before, if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job,you do not have the smarts to discuss the middle east.

So you expect my side (the goods) to not use the historys of dead fascists to highlight the similaritys with live fascists festering among us. Well I'm sorry Wallyj but that's not going to be my policy. I feel the Nazi analogy is perfectly applicable. What would you consider a polite lable for a fascist? I find it increble that you would entertain a conversation about fascists but only if Hitler and Nazis wern't mentioned, that sort of sanitizes the subject dosen't it. What's your problem with Islamic websites, the planet is covered with Muslims. Aren't you being a little racist there Wallyj or do you consider all Islamics terrorists, like your fascist heros. There's going to be a global war Wallyj, that's partially because of 9/11 which was the official opening if you like. If you don't like or trust the information at the links I provide perhaps you'd supply some of your reading material for my improvement. You do want to save me don't you? I don't think the middle east is your specialty either Wallyj. Death by suicide bombing Wallyj is considered indirect but still caused by war and occupation. Hey the United States is a fascist war criminal state. How many dead bodys and ruined lives do you need to accept that fact? Jesus they have the largest prison population on the planet. I don't ever remember you posting an article for our information Wallyj, that could mean your afraid to commit to your beliefs, or you're just a whinner or apologist for murderers.

 

[darkbeaver]

Hey Wally tone it down, you don't have to tell everyone your brain is unable to except fairness or indifference in opinion. You must have from time to time emotional problems , come on man we are all brothers and sisters here. Any one who has to make belligerent assertion such as the condom and the Greek, that taking it to a realm where you show your brass and we luff in disgust knowing what this ****ed up world some times is all about. Thank you for letting us all recognize that distinction.

He just jumped out of the sewer and attacked me Socrates.:lol: I was helpless.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Sorry,thought it was a woman. Did the remark about the racist war-criminal US state not make you wonder if you this may be a tad slanted? I followed the link at the bottom and it leads to an Islamic website. Hmm,would that taint his findings? Does this man take into account that the great majority of deaths in both Afghanistan and Iraq are caused by other Iraqi's and Afghans and not by coalition forces. I think yesterday 34 people were blown up in Iraq by suicide bombers,including 4 children,Is this taken into account? I checked a bit of his credentials,He is a pharmacoligist,specializing in botany. Is there facism in the world? Yes,but once one starts comparing Bush,Harper,America,Canada,etc.,to Hitler and the nazis,you know that you are dealing with someone who is using propaganda and hysteria to make a point. Or they have no frigging clue about Hitler,Harper,Bush,etc. That is why dragging out the nazi boogeyman destroys arguments. As I have stated before, if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job,you do not have the smarts to discuss the middle east.

Wally do you smoke pot?:lol:

 

[Socrates the Greek]

He just jumped out of the sewer and attacked me Socrates.:lol: I was helpless.

Yea I know, our friend Wally should restore his civility with an apology, not to you and me but rather to the rule the common man living by "don't do to me what you don't want done to you", an elitist will never respect this rule. So Wally be nice!

 

[Socrates the Greek]

a polite label for a fascist in Neo Con terms would be something like authoritarian views the true characteristic of fascism!

Wally, Hitler and his gang SS Swastikas are getting it up the rear in hell for the wrong they inflicted on humanity, it isn't a good idea to idolize with these idiots. If humanity failed the test ever was when Truman dropped the bomb in Hiroshima and Hitler attempting to convert humanity to an all stupid race. A bunch of ****ing idiots that had no clue of why life took place on this planet. Don't get me going on that one Wally. Nazi Swastikas black boot mother****ers did wrong to humanity!