Harper has support to win majority

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Harper has support to

Ernst Zundel was a conservative. That poll must have been conducted in a mental institute.

Actually, Beav, Ernst Zundel was a LIBERAL, he ran for the leadership of the party in 1968.

Of course, Zundel did not belong in the Liberal Party, any more than he would belong in the Conservative Party........

Edited to say.....

As for the Conservatives being in definite majority territory.....my little heart LEAPS with joy!

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Harper has support to win majority

...You mean when they deported that guy back to Germany for something he said?...

You think the deportation of Ernst Zundel was an injustice?

I think it was an injustice, and I loathe the very idea of Ernst Zundel.

The problem is that Zundel believes his own crap, he was wanted in Germany simply for expressing those beliefs, and trying a man for his beliefs is thought control, pure and simple.

We don't want to go there.

 

[Finder]

If only the polls didn't lie to us.. the only poll which matters is the one done on election night.

 

[annabattler]

The polls are bound to alter....particularly given the media response to harper's "news' conference yesterday...the majority of them walked out,leaving Harper with just a few media representatives.
No media coverage,no publicity.
Seems the reporters are upset with Harper's "list" of reporters from whom he will field questions..Harper says he is trying to bring a sense of order and decorum to press "scums".The reporters claim those who ask hard-hitting questions never make the "list".

 

[Jay]

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...You mean when they deported that guy back to Germany for something he said?...

You think the deportation of Ernst Zundel was an injustice?

Yes I do.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Harper has support to

Ernst Zundel was a conservative. That poll must have been conducted in a mental institute.

He ran for the Liberal party.

 

[BitWhys]

By the sounds of things in here he would have been better off running for the Conservatives.

 

[Jay]

Why is that?

 

[dekhqonbacha]

now, conservatives got no alternative. Libilars are blamed. when everything is setled in LPC, things will change.

 

[Colpy]

By the sounds of things in here he would have been better off running for the Conservatives.

Why would you say that?

There is no mainstream party in Canada in which Zundel would belong............our political parties are all jammed into the centre of the political spectrum.

In fact, IMHO the Conservative party is actually less "on the fringe" than the NDP/BQ, as the Conservative Party supports a number of
"socially progressive" ideas.

Now, your veiled criticism of the Conservatives above would not be because (small "c") conservatives support freedom of speech........whether or not we agree.


It seems to me the left often support the right of people to agree with them, which is hardly freedom of speech.

Take Gwyn Morgan as a case in point......

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Gwyn Morgan

The passage of a motion to reject the appointment of Mr. Gwyn Morgan was not a display of partisanship — rather, the suggestion of Mr. Morgan on the part of the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada, was the true act of partisanship in this situation, in my opinion.

Mr. Morgan, as the Chairperson of the Public Appointments Commission, would have been charged with overseeing the appointment process under the new Government of Canada. As an overt and outspoken supporter of the Conservative Party of Canada, and an obvious opponent of left-wing parties and concepts, he would not have been an appropriate choice to become a non-partisan head of the Public Appointments Commission.

Mr. Harper's decision to scrap the entire Commission, just because his hand-picked chairperson was rejected, is a clear exhibition of the Prime Minister's continued contempt for the Parliament of Canada. If he had no intention of respecting the opinion of the Standing Committee of the House of Commons on Governmnet Operations and Estimates, then he never should have set up such a sham of transparency in the first place.

 

[Colpy]

I strongly disagree, Five.

The man has a reputation for integrity.

He was not being paid, so this is hardly a patronage appointment.

He would not have been making appointments, he would simply have overseen the development of a new method of appointment approval to end political patronage., subject to debate and approval. He had no real power.

The committee did not reject him because he was a Conservative.......they did not reject him because of some fear of political bias, because that is completely irrelevant in this case......

Instead they lartched onto some truths he spoke that were not to their liking.

The NDP did so because they are idealistic enough (to be polite) to deny reality.

The Liberals did so because they don't WANT the process cleaned up......they expect the peasantry to get over this fling with the Conservatives very soon, and re-elect them to the place God intended.......and they want full access to the hog trough when they get there.

Both the NDP and the Liberals (and the BQ) shared a desire to embarass the Conservatives.

That's is how I see it.

If I had been Harper, I'd have appointed him anyway. But Harper is probably wiser, as it seems obvious the opposition is NOT interested in appointments reform.

 

[bluealberta]

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I agree that the Liberal Party of Canada seriously needs to renew itself; which is why I am so happy that the party has decided to launch a Renewal Commission, to run parallel to their leadership convention.

FiveParadox, it won’t be long before the Liberal party will be the Government of the day here in Canada. The truth is the Tories through out the years have shown that they are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The Liberals have shown charisma and under the Liberals Canada has always been a freer country.

Freer with out money, you mean. How anyone can seriously support a socially engineering, money stealing, money laundering, self important, win at any and all costs, type of party is beyond me. When your leader says "A few million were stolen so what?", and you continue to support them, we on the right have to wonder exactly what kind of hidden agenda you really have. To take all our money and put it in liberal friendly hands?

 

[Vicious]

Re: Gwyn Morgan

... an obvious opponent of left-wing parties and concepts, he would not have been an appropriate choice to become a non-partisan head of the Public Appointments Commission.

Five, you sound like a smart guy. Can you do me a favour and look up the definition of "partisan" and then read your quote above.

Now please give me the name of one qualified non-partisan candidate for the position.

 

[gc]

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When your leader says "A few million were stolen so what?", and you continue to support them, we on the right have to wonder exactly what kind of hidden agenda you really have. To take all our money and put it in liberal friendly hands?

I assume you are referring to the quote from Jean Chretien (who by the way is no longer the leader of the liberal party, thankfully) who said "Perhaps there were a few million dollars that might have been stolen in the process. But how many millions of dollars have we saved because we have re-established the stability of Canada by keeping it a united country?". While the sponsorship program probably had nothing to do with keeping Canada together, it still would be nice to have accurate quotes.