So no niqabs worn to rob Canadian banks? Lots of guns used I suppose. I wonder what Das' opinion on banning guns is?
Harper could ban niqab from federal civil service
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So no niqabs worn to rob Canadian banks? Lots of guns used I suppose. I wonder what Das' opinion on banning guns is?
Uh, do you think security just stands around when some dude in a ski mask tries to enter a bank? Oh, and there were many, MANY more links but I've got better things to do than post link after link after link about the same thing.
You're missing the point here. It's "intolerant" to ask someone to remove their niqab. That's pretty much what you've been arguing in all these threads.
And c'mon bud, do you think a jewelry store is going to unlock its door for someone in a ski mask? F*ck no, but it's intolerant if they don't open it for someone in burka or niqab.
Read again McDuff. I guess the robbery of a Canadian jewelry store is nothing either.
Yep, because banning guns sure prevents criminals from getting their hands on them. Oh wait, no it doesn't.
That.....is the difference between an Idealist and a realist.....
Lots of ideologues around here and they're not hard to recognise....
If banning the niqab will prevent robberies by people wearing niqabs then obviously banning the gun and will prevent people from using guns in robberies... It just makes sense man!!!
You're pretty thick headed aren't you. Tell me sport, can you spot a person carrying a concealed handgun? No? Gee what a surprise. Can you spot a person who's wearing a burka or niqab? Yes? Well now you've answered your own dumbass question. And that's why your pathetic premise holds no merit.
Just read it again. My question still stands
I can spot a person wearing a ski mask. I guess that prevents people from wearing ski masks during robberies.
I never realized that armed robberies were such a big concern in Canada that some folks were willing to take away rights just to deal with the problem
Why is banning a rag of oppression racist? At one time it was culturally acceptable to knock your wife around. Should we revert back to those ways? Leave women to walk ten feet behind us? Maybe give em a good smack when they get out of line?
I guess your only allowed to stand up for human rights when your liberal.
I guess your only allowed to stand up for human rights when your liberal.
Some people just have too much sewer gas in their system...
Some fool gets it at home...
The other one at work....
Some fool gets it at home...
The other one at work....
Does that have anything to do with the topic at hand or are you just being a troll?
Are you against freedom of religion? Perhaps you're just against freedom of the religions you don't agree with?
And you're not??
Dance Cannuck
I'll take that as a yes
I'll answer that. What's wrong here is that it isn't always a "rag of oppression." Some women voluntarily take hijab or niqab, and maybe even burqa.
I've heard three reasons for banning niqab:
1. Security and identity concerns.
2. Alleged oppression.
3. Those blessed few who just flat-out admit they're bigots (even though they still cloak it in BS like "Old Stock Canadians").
OK, here's the responses, based on the admittedly American concept that, in order to ban something, the government must show that it has a "compelling government interest" and that the proposed ban is the least restrictive way to meet that interest.
Here we go. . .
1. Still waiting for any evidence that niqab-clad people are a significant security threat. By "evidence," I mean more than five anecdotes (two of them from outside Canada). Unless you've got a real, significant problem, you don't have a "compelling government interest."
2. Canada is a free society. If a woman who feels oppressed by the niqab wants to shed it, she can do so. She can leave her family and "community" and be in Canadian society. She'll get a heck of a lot more support than she would in the States. Funny how the same conservatives who are all about "standing on your own two feet" are suddenly all concerned about taking government action to "protect" women who may or may not be oppressed.
3. Absolutely. Go for it. Just have the balls to say that you're a bigot, and quit trying to hide behind bullsh*t "security concerns," or fer****'ssake pretending to give a damn about women's oppression.
The funny thing about this issue is that if you take the word niqab and replace it with the word gun, some of the posters here would immediately switch and start using the arguments they are now critical of. I remember hearing the argument that gun ownership was part of "rural culture". If threat to the general population is the yardstick used, guns would be much higher on the list of things to ban. Not being a member of either the left fringe or the right fringe, I'm not one prone to banning things.
Remember people, niqabs don't rob banks....people rob banks.
Remember people, niqabs don't rob banks....people rob banks.