Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

[Andem]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

Africa has an epidemic of the disease because of its attitude. Does it prosecute those who spread AIDS? Does it insist African men change their outlook and finally accept responsibility for their sexual behaviour? We are not responsible for other nations' laxness and stupidity. I am tired of being dumped on by countries who just don't get what it is to be a real country.

Exactly what my opinion is. If they actually tried to stymie the myth of African medicine which says you can be cured of HIV and AIDS by having sex with a virgin, there might actually be a decrease of African men raping newborn babies and older infants.

Sorry, but a culture that is so morally reprehensible to rape children, virgins, women and infants en-mass has very little time for me. How about putting more efforts into encouraging a healthier population in Canada, or to, as bluealberta said, put more time and research into cancers or reduce young people starting smoking?

Canada is not responsible for saving the world.. but we can start by working on our own country.

 

[tamarin]

Andem, the CBC has a couple of documentaries on last year and the films looked at the attitude of young people in AIDS afflicted areas. It was obvious that they didn't care a bit. One lad was asked if he'd be angry if his sister had sex with an HIV positive male and he said it didn't matter to him. There was throughout the coverage an air of jawdropping stupidity and irresponsibility. A world so different from our own that they might as well be on a different planet.

 

[athabaska]

The word 'CBC' and 'documentary' no longer should be put in the same sentence. CBC used to do excellent documentaries. In the last decade the documentaries have turned into info-commercials for the politically correct.

If AIDS prevention is not a priority for these nations then that is their decision. With independence came responsibility. White man's burden hould be over.

There is no magic bullet. Want to lose weight? Eat less and exercise. Want to reduce rates of AIDS infection? Practice restraint, safe sex and put away the needles.

Women raped? abused? That has no solution coming from an AIDS conference that worships Hollywood stars and 24,000 participants sip wine and eat cheese on crackers.

 

[sine000]

They (CBC) still do great documentary....like the one about the Pope John Paul II and the Canada: A peoples History....putting on *rubber* is against the catholic religion....A life is a Life...

 

[tracy]

I get it now. We only want to cure diseases that affect good people (meaning the morally upstanding of our own country).

 

[tracy]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

Women raped? abused? That has no solution coming from an AIDS conference that worships Hollywood stars and 24,000 participants sip wine and eat cheese on crackers.

You must have missed the part about microbicide gels. Thank God someone is willing to invest in their creation.

 

[sine000]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

Bill Gates haha....investing 2 billion?....woah...that can do some serious experiments...

 

[Cosmo]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

I didn't want our PM at this conference and I certainly didn't want the conference in Canada. Given the inability of the world and the key countries where AIDS is a major problem to get the damn job done and read the riot act to the large number of offending citizens cavalierly passing the disease on, I see no place for Canada on the front lines at all.

I agree absolutely that Canada really wasn't the prime choice for this conference. The only reason it may have been beneficial would be to be an example for the rest of North America on how to run a decent medicare system. We are so damn lucky up here!!!!

As for Harper not even showing up, I wasn't surprised, but I was disgusted. The guy should be shot and ... well, you know the rest. My disdain for the man increases every time I hear something new about him. Thank all the gawds that be that he does not hold a majority government! I see it as an act of total disrespect to not even show up since Canada was hosting the conference. It was an insult to both the folks with AIDS and to the supporters. Not exactly a shocker, but still a disappointment. One of many in a great long line.

I listened to some of the coverage on CBC. The epidemic is horrifying enough without the collateral issues like men sleeping with 12 year old virgins believing they can cure AIDS by doing so. I almost fell over when the old question about whether or not AIDS is "God's" punishment for gay men came up. WTF??? AIDS didn't even start with gay men ... it started in the hetero community. Ignorance may be bliss to some but they are abusing the privilege.

 

[tamarin]

As long as Harper means no Liberal return to government I can live with that. It's a compromise. I don't think the nation could survive a new majority Liberal government and its huge sense of party entitlement.
As far as Aids is concerned I'm not going to be on board until those most affected start taking the epidemic seriously. I refuse to take responsibility for the stupidity and irresponsibility of others. I often get the idea many in the world think the West is everyone's servant. We're supposed to be there to solve every crisis. Hey, I don't mind helping but if I get the idea a nation or group is using us, no way.

 

[sine000]

true...Canada prolly has the best medicare in the world....for free...

 

[feronia]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

Africa has an epidemic of the disease because of its attitude. Does it prosecute those who spread AIDS? Does it insist African men change their outlook and finally accept responsibility for their sexual behaviour? We are not responsible for other nations' laxness and stupidity. I am tired of being dumped on by countries who just don't get what it is to be a real country.

Exactly what my opinion is. If they actually tried to stymie the myth of African medicine which says you can be cured of HIV and AIDS by having sex with a virgin, there might actually be a decrease of African men raping newborn babies and older infants.

Sorry, but a culture that is so morally reprehensible to rape children, virgins, women and infants en-mass has very little time for me. How about putting more efforts into encouraging a healthier population in Canada, or to, as bluealberta said, put more time and research into cancers or reduce young people starting smoking?

Canada is not responsible for saving the world.. but we can start by working on our own country.

I didn't mention this because of its sensitive nature. This is a political topic not a health topic. Poor people are dying because they are a liability to a country. No one wants to help because it costs billions and everyone’s attitude is "Am I my brother's keeper?" When the answer comes up Hell yeah! They walk away and hide their faces.

 

[sine000]

LOL

 

[Calberty]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

Andem, the CBC has a couple of documentaries on last year and the films looked at the attitude of young people in AIDS afflicted areas. It was obvious that they didn't care a bit. One lad was asked if he'd be angry if his sister had sex with an HIV positive male and he said it didn't matter to him. .

So that would also be your attitude? I doubt it. It's not mine. Maybe you are hanging out with too many stupid people. It just proves anabove posting that CBC doesn't make legitimate documentaries but twists the coverage to suit the agenda. Unlike yourself, I've heard the message for the last 20 years. It's like 'don't smoke because it's bad for you'. People still smoke. The PM attending a conference isn't going to change anything but add to the circus the AIDS industry has become.

It's still amazing that you haven't yet heard that safe sexual practices are a necessity today. I've heard it a thousand times.

 

[tracy]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

[. I almost fell over when the old question about whether or not AIDS is "God's" punishment for gay men came up. WTF??? AIDS didn't even start with gay men ... it started in the hetero community. Ignorance may be bliss to some but they are abusing the privilege.

The really funny part about that is that the community with the lowest infection rates through sex is lesbians... So if HIV is God's punishment, doesn't that mean lesbians must be the chosen people?

 

[Calberty]

cosmo: "As for Harper not even showing up, I wasn't surprised, but I was disgusted. The guy should be shot and ..."

So did you vote Conservative?

I didn't the last two elections but might the next election. So far Harper has done what he set out to do and hasn't pandered to special interest groups such as the yuppies at the AIDS conference.

 

[feronia]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

[. I almost fell over when the old question about whether or not AIDS is "God's" punishment for gay men came up. WTF??? AIDS didn't even start with gay men ... it started in the hetero community. Ignorance may be bliss to some but they are abusing the privilege.

The really funny part about that is that the community with the lowest infection rates through sex is lesbians... So if HIV is God's punishment, doesn't that mean lesbians must be the chosen people?

Perfect.

 

[tamarin]

And maybe they're simply not tested enough. There are all sorts of communities out there and I doubt very much lesbians have won the trophy on this one. I know onanists have terrific scores and Mennonites do us proud. And that's just a start.

 

[tracy]

If you research HOW HIV is spread, you'll see why lesbians don't get it as often. It has nothing to do with the prevalence of their testing. It's just the safest form of sex. I specified transmitted through sex didn't I?

 

[Calberty]

Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto

[. I almost fell over when the old question about whether or not AIDS is "God's" punishment for gay men came up. WTF??? AIDS didn't even start with gay men ... it started in the hetero community. Ignorance may be bliss to some but they are abusing the privilege.

The really funny part about that is that the community with the lowest infection rates through sex is lesbians... So if HIV is God's punishment, doesn't that mean lesbians must be the chosen people?

Perfect.

I'm an atheist and don't care what God, the Easter Bunny or any other mythological figure says about AIDs. The lowest AIDS rates, at least in Canada, are in the heterosexual female group. Not Lesbians. Both, however, have extremely low infection ratres and extremely low from sexual activity. Most infection is from drug use and non-sexual procedures (especially drug transfusions in the 80's).

 

[tamarin]

Tracy, of course. I'm no genius but I can read. You made a statement. I simply find it difficult to believe.