Guergis speaks out...

#juan

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Even a scum like Brian Mulroney fired a cabinet minister every year he was in office but there was never any doubt why that minister was fired. Guergis was not only thrown our of cabinet, she was also thrown out of caucus and Harper refuses to say a word to anyone. If you are going to ruin somebody's career, I think you have to give the reasons. It sounds like there is a bit of poop smeared around here starting with that intrepid, debt-ridden private investigator and Harper doesn't want to get any on himself
 
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petros said:
I don't watch TV.
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You're missing some funny sh!t!!!

#juan said:
Even a scum like Brian Mulroney fired a cabinet minister every year he was in office but there was never any doubt why that minister was fired. Guergis was not only thrown our of cabinet, she was also thrown out of caucus and Harper refuses to say a word to anyone. If you are going to ruin somebody's career, I think you have to give the reasons. It sounds like there is a bit of poop smeared around here starting with that intrepid, debt-ridden private investigator and Harper doesn't want to get any on himself
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#juan said:
Even a scum like Brian Mulroney fired a cabinet minister every year he was in office but there was never any doubt why that minister was fired. Guergis was not only thrown our of cabinet, she was also thrown out of caucus and Harper refuses to say a word to anyone. If you are going to ruin somebody's career, I think you have to give the reasons. It sounds like there is a bit of poop smeared around here starting with that intrepid, debt-ridden private investigator and Harper doesn't want to get any on himself
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My point precisely. If you're going to inform us that there are criminal accusations against Guregis, then at the very least, if not we, Guergis herself has every right to know the accusations against her in detail. If that cannot be ascertained, then Harper should have removed her from Cabinet quietly and kept his mouth shut about the reasons. Either give us the full story or none of it. Either could be acceptable. And I can certainly appreciate that some secrecy might be needed. But if that's the case, then make the secrecy complete and not ad hock.
 
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Machjo said:
My point precisely. If you're going to inform us that there are criminal accusations against Guregis, then at the very least, if not we, Guergis herself has every right to know the accusations against her in detail. If that cannot be ascertained, then Harper should have removed her from Cabinet quietly and kept his mouth shut about the reasons. Either give us the full story or none of it. Either could be acceptable. And I can certainly appreciate that some secrecy might be needed. But if that's the case, then make the secrecy complete and not ad hock.
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You're making assumptions again Machjo.
 
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I don't know - is she really feeling the need to defend herself or is she trying to deflect blame. I believe they said at the end of the interview (or somewhere in it) that the police are undecided as to whether or not they will lay charges. Knowing this, it's easy for her to go public and make Harper look like the bad guy because she knows her job is gone. Even, if under pressure, she is re-instated, it will never go well for her. It's a little like a person who is relieved of charges but it never actually states they are innocent - it simply states the charges are un-proven and the guilty party walks. That could be the case here. We may never know the truth in this particular case.
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Yes that could happen. But in this case it's the PM himself who destroyed her, not the courts and public opinion. Sure this might all have come about anyway, but through the court case, not through the PM saving his hide.
 
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Machjo said:
Sure, if the police think it could help them solve the case. Otherwise, no.
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She's holding a public office Machjo, you can't just bounce her out without an explanation. That's fodder for the hacks...damned again.

I don't believe being a public figure automatically means you have no right to privacy.
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So long as it doesn't involve your platform or your office, I agree.

If you get caught humpin' prostitutes, and you run on law and order, public. If the remote taint of unethical behavior in your office gets into the wind, public. If you dress up like a monkey and hump a banana, private.
 
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Machjo said:
What assumptions?
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You keep running with the "She doesn't know" angle.

I don't buy that.

Given the fact that she stated that her and Jaffer have no idea how the coke got in his pocket, she has all the credibility of a cat with feather hanging out of its mouth, and an empty bird cage.
 
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NDP has long proved to be potheads when the marijuana party damn near merged into NDP and the Liberals like their libations.

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