Grizzly bear attack hospitalizes Northern B.C. hunter

L Gilbert

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Karelians, like other breeds, are normally territorial and challenge other critters that encroach. If threatened they will retaliate, like other breeds. There are two around this neighborhood and are perfectly approachable and friendly when their owners are around.
Loads of myths created by the sensationalism of newsmedia have caused a lot of idiotic paranoia about dogs and attacks (among a lot of other things). Dogs and other critters are as individual as humans and I've met quite a few rotties and pitbulls and other "attack" dogs that have never attacked people or other animals.
Whatever. At 60 yrs old this goof should have known better than to push his luck by hunting alone and making himself prey to other critters.
 

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Best bear dog is a small and fast breed like a Jack Russel. They can run circles around a bear and are such a small target that they can usually avoid getting whacked. Large breeds are slow and easy targets. A large dog might be great for guarding the home property, but in the woods, give me small and fast. They'll drive a bear to frustration and it will just run off (usually). But like any wild animal, always expect the unexpected from them.
 

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At 60 yrs old this goof should have known better than to push his luck by hunting alone and making himself prey to other critters.

It's not the safest thing to do, but, some people I know hunt alone, especially those who HAVE to hunt (such as pensioners who need to top their freezer off). One friend was shot last year, and happened to have company with him for the first time that season, by sheer coincidence. Normally, he'd have been alone, the nature of the game when you actually live in the bush. He got very lucky.

There are a plethora of 'I would' scenarios we can all engage in anytime anyone anywhere gets hurt. "he's dumb, I'd get a dog." "He's stupid, I'd hunt with someone." But the fact of the matter is, one day we may be the ones hurt, and have people a world away dreaming up how we should have could have done things differently, and it will make zero difference in the reality of the situation.
 

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I feel sorry the guy got attacked but to go looking for the bear who was on home ground and doing his thing is just wrong and irritated me as soon as I read it. Why does the bear have to die because of human error. What is wrong with us that we have this kind of revenge mentality?
 

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What you've heard. So you're not even actually familiar with the breed?

It's all well and good to say what you would do if you lived in bear country. But declaring someone else stupid, declaring how it 'should' be done, when you don't even know for sure.... it sits wrong gopher.


I didn't call anybody here stupid - My reference was strictly to the guy who knowingly took a needless risk and he paid the price for it.

A co-worker of mine had one and we chatted a few times about his pooch. He moved out before we had a chance to go on a hiking and hunting trip so I never got to see his dog. But I heard enough about the breed over the few months that I knew this guy who moved way up to northern Minnesota where he hunts big game as a hobby.
 

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I feel sorry the guy got attacked but to go looking for the bear who was on home ground and doing his thing is just wrong and irritated me as soon as I read it. Why does the bear have to die because of human error. What is wrong with us that we have this kind of revenge mentality?



Cause that's what we do best, Sal.

A really really good job. eh.:roll:
 

Sal

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Cause that's what we do best, Sal.

A really really good job. eh.:roll:
it seems like that is what we do best...we want to kill everything and anything if it doesn't suit us...just blast it off, people or animals
 

karrie

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I didn't call anybody here stupid - My reference was strictly to the guy who knowingly took a needless risk and he paid the price for it.

A co-worker of mine had one and we chatted a few times about his pooch. He moved out before we had a chance to go on a hiking and hunting trip so I never got to see his dog. But I heard enough about the breed over the few months that I knew this guy who moved way up to northern Minnesota where he hunts big game as a hobby.

Precisely.
 

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I didn't call anybody here stupid - My reference was strictly to the guy who knowingly took a needless risk and he paid the price for it.

A co-worker of mine had one and we chatted a few times about his pooch. He moved out before we had a chance to go on a hiking and hunting trip so I never got to see his dog. But I heard enough about the breed over the few months that I knew this guy who moved way up to northern Minnesota where he hunts big game as a hobby.

I lived up north for many years. From when I was 14 years old I went into the bush with a rifle, and my dog, just like my older brothers before me. We never considered it a "needless" risk. The dog was a mongrel/border collie cross. If I ran into a bear, the dog always knew about the bear before I did. I never encountered a grizzly when I was out by myself but black bears were more common. As often as not, the dog would chase the black bear up a tree.
 

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juan,

and my dog, just like my older brothers before me. We never considered it a "needless" risk.


Exactly my point - take the dog with you in order to scare off the bear. I've known several big game hunter and not one has ever gone into the woods for big game without a hunting dog.
 

Nuggler

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Exactly my point - take the dog with you in order to scare off the bear. I've known several big game hunter and not one has ever gone into the woods for big game without a hunting dog.


Absolutely concur........................GOPHER...............sorry once again. Although Goober's a good sort as well.

When we used to hunt them,(hare) we had beagles which would chase brush wolves. Alone, or in a pack. Stupid, but there it was. If the wolf made a stand, the dog would die.

Ah to feel once again the rush of testosterone when I killed a rabbit........................NOT!!

They're good to eat, so we ate them. Cain't eatem alive.

Wellllllllllllllllll............they don't taste as good. .8O