Greenland

[Ron in Regina]

“I believe one should take the American president seriously when he says that he wants Greenland,” Frederiksen said in the interview, according to a translation from Bloomberg.

“But I will also make it clear that if the U.S. chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, then everything stops, including NATO and thus the security that has been established since the end of the Second World War,” she continued.

Frederiksen issued an earlier statement fiercely defending Greenland against Trump’s threats, saying, “It makes absolutely no sense to speak of any necessity for the United States to take over Greenland. The United States has no legal basis to annex one of the three countries of the Kingdom of Denmark.”

Frederiksen noted Greenland, by virtue of being part of Denmark, is part of the NATO alliance and pointed to Denmark’s agreement granting the U.S. broad access to Greenland.

“I therefore strongly urge the United States to cease its threats against a historically close ally, and against another country and another people who have stated very clearly that they are not for sale,” Frederiksen said.

Danish prime minister says Trump attack on Greenland would end NATO — The Hill

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen warned on Monday that the long-standing NATO alliance would end if President Trump ordered an attack on Greenland, a semiautonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark.

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“I believe one should take the American president seriously when he says that he wants Greenland,” Frederiksen said in the interview, according to a translation from Bloomberg.

“But I will also make it clear that if the U.S. chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, then everything stops, including NATO and thus the security that has been established since the end of the Second World War,” she continued.

Frederiksen issued an earlier statement fiercely defending Greenland against Trump’s threats, saying, “It makes absolutely no sense to speak of any necessity for the United States to take over Greenland. The United States has no legal basis to annex one of the three countries of the Kingdom of Denmark.”

Frederiksen noted Greenland, by virtue of being part of Denmark, is part of the NATO alliance and pointed to Denmark’s agreement granting the U.S. broad access to Greenland.

“I therefore strongly urge the United States to cease its threats against a historically close ally, and against another country and another people who have stated very clearly that they are not for sale,” Frederiksen said.

Danish prime minister says Trump attack on Greenland would end NATO — The Hill

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen warned on Monday that the long-standing NATO alliance would end if President Trump ordered an attack on Greenland, a semiautonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark.

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Everyone has a price .

 

[Ron in Regina]

Everyone has a price .

Trump sees acquiring Greenland as a U.S. national security priority necessary to "deter our adversaries in the Arctic region," the White House said in a statement?

NATO members can generally use each other's territories for military bases and operations, but it’s based on mutual agreement and host nation consent, with some historical exceptions like Nordic nations' restrictions; NATO itself doesn't own bases, relying on national contributions, but forces operate within allied land under NATO command structures for exercises or deployments.

Some members, like Denmark, Norway, and Iceland (founding members), initially had agreements limiting permanent peacetime bases or foreign military activity on their soil, though these have evolved (e.g., U.S. base in Greenland).

"The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. military is always an option at the commander-in-chief's disposal," the White House said.

Trump discussing how to acquire Greenland, US military always an option, White House says — Reuters

The White House said on Tuesday that President Donald Trump is discussing options for acquiring Greenland, including potential use of the U.S. military, in a revival of his ambition to control the strategic island despite European objections.

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Greenland has repeatedly said it does not want to be part of the United States. Leaders from major European powers and Canada rallied behind the Arctic territory on Tuesday, saying it belongs to its people.

Carney says Greenland's security is part of NATO amid Trump threats — Global News

Prime Minister Mark Carney says Greenland's security is included in NATO, and the future of Greenland is a decision for the Danish territory and Denmark to make.

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Each NATO member is sovereign. When one nation wants to build a base or deploy significant forces in another, it's done with the specific permission and agreement of the host country, often formalized through Status of Forces Agreements (SOFAs).

Member states of NATO - Wikipedia

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A U.S. military seizure of Greenland from a longtime ally, Denmark, would send shock waves through the NATO alliance and deepen the divide between Trump and European leaders…so that’s a price I guess. While most Greenlanders favour eventual independence from Denmark, opinion polls show overwhelming opposition to becoming part of the US.

European allies back Denmark over Trump's threat to annex Greenland — BBC News

Donald Trump has refused to rule out using force to annex Greenland - a scenario that would spell the end of Nato, according to Denmark.

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Trump sees acquiring Greenland as a U.S. national security priority necessary to "deter our adversaries in the Arctic region," the White House said in a statement?

NATO members can generally use each other's territories for military bases and operations, but it’s based on mutual agreement and host nation consent, with some historical exceptions like Nordic nations' restrictions; NATO itself doesn't own bases, relying on national contributions, but forces operate within allied land under NATO command structures for exercises or deployments.
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Some members, like Denmark, Norway, and Iceland (founding members), initially had agreements limiting permanent peacetime bases or foreign military activity on their soil, though these have evolved (e.g., U.S. base in Greenland).

"The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. military is always an option at the commander-in-chief's disposal," the White House said.

Trump discussing how to acquire Greenland, US military always an option, White House says — Reuters

The White House said on Tuesday that President Donald Trump is discussing options for acquiring Greenland, including potential use of the U.S. military, in a revival of his ambition to control the strategic island despite European objections.

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Greenland has repeatedly said it does not want to be part of the United States. Leaders from major European powers and Canada rallied behind the Arctic territory on Tuesday, saying it belongs to its people.

Carney says Greenland's security is part of NATO amid Trump threats — Global News

Prime Minister Mark Carney says Greenland's security is included in NATO, and the future of Greenland is a decision for the Danish territory and Denmark to make.

apple.news

Each NATO member is sovereign. When one nation wants to build a base or deploy significant forces in another, it's done with the specific permission and agreement of the host country, often formalized through Status of Forces Agreements (SOFAs).

Member states of NATO - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A U.S. military seizure of Greenland from a longtime ally, Denmark, would send shock waves through the NATO alliance and deepen the divide between Trump and European leaders…so that’s a price I guess. While most Greenlanders favour eventual independence from Denmark, opinion polls show overwhelming opposition to becoming part of the US.

European allies back Denmark over Trump's threat to annex Greenland — BBC News

Donald Trump has refused to rule out using force to annex Greenland - a scenario that would spell the end of Nato, according to Denmark.

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NATO has pretty much outlived its usefulness , imo .

 

[Ron in Regina]

NATO has pretty much outlived its usefulness , imo .

If the militarily powerful in NATO can cannibalize (or threatened to) other NATO nations less militarily powerful in the same defence pact, then I would concur with your assessment of the situation.

It had its 75-ish years, & I guess Putin doesn’t have to worry about Ukraine joining NATO at this point, so glass half full for someone.

NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) was formed on April 4, 1949, with the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty in Washington D.C., primarily to provide collective security against Soviet expansion in post-World War II Europe, deterring aggression and fostering stability through a military alliance. It united North America and Western European nations, ensuring that an attack on one member would be considered an attack on all (Article 5).

 

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If the militarily powerful in NATO can cannibalize (or threatened to) other NATO nations less militarily powerful in the same defence pact, then I would concur with your assessment of the situation.

It had its 75-ish years, & I guess Putin doesn’t have to worry about Ukraine joining NATO at this point, so glass half full for someone.

NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) was formed on April 4, 1949, with the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty in Washington D.C., primarily to provide collective security against Soviet expansion in post-World War II Europe, deterring aggression and fostering stability through a military alliance. It united North America and Western European nations, ensuring that an attack on one member would be considered an attack on all (Article 5).

And in that seventy five year history it has done little more than create a bureaucracy and piggy back on the U.S.

 

[Ron in Regina]

And in that seventy five year history it has done little more than create a bureaucracy and piggy back on the U.S.

And through that, we didn’t enter World War IIl 30 years after World War II, like we entered World War II 30 years after World War I. Oh well.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

And through that, we didn’t enter World War IIl 30 years after World War II, like we entered World War II 30 years after World War I. Oh well.

Nonsense. Without NATO, the Soviets and Russians would have just sat around playing nicely. Didn't need it at all. Just like we don't need a military when we're not at war.