God is the Most High

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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

God does not do evil.. what you call evil is not evil .. it is the punishing of wrong-doers for their wronging and transgressing on people.
Therefore, the eradication of wrong-doers (most of them are atheists and idolaters) is a blessing not evil .. or else the earth will be full with wrong, iniquity, oppression and ungodliness.

So God is All-Able, All-Mighty and He does not wrong people: it is people who do wrong themselves by following the atheism, the idolatry, the adultery, the oppression and transgression.

Quran 10: 44, which means:
(God wrongs not people in anything, but it is people who do wrong themselves.)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/10.htm#a10_44
quran-ayat.com/pret/10.htm#a10_44
 

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Moreover, if God leaves wrong-doers to do their wrong, transgression and trespassing the rights of other people .. then the oppression, injustice and iniquity will prevail.

According to a holy tradition, God - be glorified - said:

"The wrong-doer (or oppressor) is My sword, with which I take revenge of other wrong-doers and disbelievers, then on him I take revenge."
 

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god does not do evil.. What you call evil is not evil .. It is the punishing of wrong-doers for their wronging and transgressing on people.
Therefore, the eradication of wrong-doers (most of them are atheists and idolaters) is a blessing not evil .. Or else the earth will be full with wrong, iniquity, oppression and ungodliness.

So god is all-able, all-mighty and he does not wrong people: It is people who do wrong themselves by following the atheism, the idolatry, the adultery, the oppression and transgression.

quran 10: 44, which means:
(god wrongs not people in anything, but it is people who do wrong themselves.)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/10.htm#a10_44
quran-ayat.com/pret/10.htm#a10_44
you are certifiably insane.
 

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Moreover, if God leaves wrong-doers to do their wrong, transgression and trespassing the rights of other people .. then the oppression, injustice and iniquity will prevail.

According to a holy tradition, God - be glorified - said:

"The wrong-doer (or oppressor) is My sword, with which I take revenge of other wrong-doers and disbelievers, then on him I take revenge."
The preceeding is the insane ranting if a diseased, worm filled skull.
 

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This is the soora 70 in the book of the Quran, recited by an excellent Meccan reciter:

[youtube]XwUicRcTsUM[/youtube]​

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/70.htm#a70_1
quran-ayat.com/pret/70.htm#a70_1

This is the explanation of this great soora 70 in the book of the Quran:

Soora 70

(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)​

1. One demanding, demanded the chastisement which is about to befall

[Then God – be glorified – explained that the chastisement will befall all the disbelievers, and that none can avert them the chastisement, and He said:]
2. To [befall] the unbelievers, which none can repel,

3. [A penalty] from God, the Lord of the ‘stairways of ascent’.

4. [Whereby] the angels and [Gabriel] the [Trustworthy] Spirit ascend to Him in a day the measure of which [to disbelievers and the guilty] is [as], fifty thousand years.

5. Therefore, persevere patiently [the annoyance and mockery of your people, O Mohammed] with fair patience.

6. For they see it as highly improbable.

7. But We see it drawing nigh.

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/70.htm#a70_1
quran-ayat.com/pret/70.htm#a70_1

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Quran 70: 8-18, which mean:

[Then God – be glorified – explained some events which will occur on that day which will last one thousand years, and He said:]
8. The day when the sky shall be [as turbid] as the turbid [boiled] oil [of sesame],

9. And mountains shall be like the [fluffy] wool.

10. And intimate [friend or relative] shall not ask of his intimate [friend or relative to save him from the chastisement.]

11. They will be put [by the angels] in sight of each other.
The sinner would that he could ransom himself from the chastisement of that day [even] by his sons,


12. his wife, his brother,

13. his tribe who sheltered him [in the life of the World],

14. And [he will desire to ransom himself with] whoever are in the earth, all together; so that then such [ransom] may deliver him [from the chastisement.]

[Then God – be glorified – said:]
15. No, assuredly [he will not be saved; for] it is a blaze.

16. That plucks out the scalp.

17. It shall invite [all] such as turn their backs [from believing in God] and turn away [from believing His messenger.]

18. And hoards [money] and stores it [in the safe.])

The explanation and the rest of this great soora is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/70.htm#a70_8
quran-ayat.com/pret/70.htm#a70_8
Moo cows are not purple.

Dog told me that.
 

Gilgamesh

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Moo cows are not purple.

Dog told me that.
----(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)------

1. Gracious? Floods, hurricanes, fires, earthquakes.

2. Never ever been the slightest proof that any such childish and medieval creature exists.

3. Brain cancer in babies? Gimme a break!

4. Grow up!
 

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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?​
From Ge:1:1 until Re:20:1 this earth is an imperfect place. Men were made just short of being perfect, Angels were also made just short of being perfect or neither would have fallen into sin. The flood saw all fallen angels put in an escape proof prison for 'immortals' meaning they remain awake always, they are awake and in a place called 'the Pit', most will be there until the time God sends Satan to the fiery lake at the end of Re:20. That is when the imperfect heaven and imperfect earth from Ge:1:1 vanish. The Angels that did not sin move to the perfected version of their heaven and mankind moves into a perfected of this earth. In the new earth mankind is immortal so we do not have to eat food like Adam and Eve did and we know about good and evil and are sinless in God's view. No sin ever take place in the new heaven (Mount Sion, Heb:12) or in the new earth (universe as it will be empty). Evil is in the lake of fire and good is where People are and that never changes unless the new earth gets full and then some would follow and also call Mount Sion 'home'.
Good and evil were created as soon as law existed, for angels it was at the start of the 1st day of creation and for men in the Garden law was created at the end of the 6th day. Angels are under the Re:21 law and men will come to be under that same law when the 1,000 year reign starts.
The imperfect versions have a start and an end, the perfected versions start when the imperfect version ends and it has no ending. That seems to fit what a 'good plan' would include, a 'bad plan' would have the flawed part be the longer version and it would void what a 'new earth' ids described as being.

Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing?
Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.

Isa:55:11:
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
it shall not return unto me void,
but it shall accomplish that which I please,
and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Jer:4:28:
For this shall the earth mourn,
and the heavens above be black:
because I have spoken it,
I have purposed it,
and will not repent,
neither will I turn back from it.

Both bruises from Ge:3:15 have to be completed before Adam and Eve are sinless again. The 1,000 year reign would mean they are alive and standing in the Garden again. So far the cross was the fulfillment of the bruise to the heel and when Jesus pours out the 7th vial that is the completion of the other bruise. Adam and Eve will be alive within 1 hour of Jesus saying, 'It is done.' When God says the same words in Re:21 the last person will be as saved as Adam and Eve were earlier. The new earth verse from Isa:66 is what He is referencing. Where Re:22 leaves off the new earth verses in Isa:65 take over as the ones saved at Judgment Day move out of New Jerusalem and into the new earth where they will make their homes.

Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing?
The Bible is about the completion of the two bruises from Ge:3:15 once you take away Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22. When you study something you tend to take a bit from one page and another bit from another page when you examine some point in greater detail. The return is the most talked about single event in the whole book so it does take a bit of time. The bad news for you is the more you read the more you will appreciate the complexity of the book when it comes to the finest details. Lies do do contain 'fine details' that is reserved for truthful things.

Then whence cometh evil?
Isa:45:5-7:
I am the LORD,
and there is none else,
there is no God beside me:
I girded thee,
though thou hast not known me:
That they may know from the rising of the sun,
and from the west,
that there is none beside me.
I am the LORD,
and there is none else.
I form the light,
and create darkness:
I make peace,
and create evil:
I the LORD do all these things.

The angel that is Jesus in Re:22 is the same form Jesus was in in the 40 days He was on earth after the cross. That form is the same one Christ used when He made an appearance in the OT before Moses became the High Priest to the 12 Tribes. Christ would gave been the angel that talked with Abraham when Lot was the topic. That was a change in Law, it will change back to that earlier law when men can live past the age of 120 and not die ever once they pass that mark.

Heb:7:1:
For this Melchisedec,
king of Salem,
priest of the most high God,
who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings,
and blessed him;

Heb:7:11-21:
If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood,
(for under it the people received the law,)
what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec,
and not be called after the order of Aaron?
For the priesthood being changed,
there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe,
of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda;
of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
And it is yet far more evident:
for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Who is made,
not after the law of a carnal commandment,
but after the power of an endless life.
For he testifieth,
Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
For the law made nothing perfect,
but the bringing in of a better hope did;
by the which we draw nigh unto God.
And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:
(For those priests were made without an oath;
but this with an oath by him that said unto him,
The Lord sware and will not repent,
Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

Heb:10:1-4:
For the law having a shadow of good things to come,
and not the very image of the things,
can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
For then would they not have ceased to be offered?
because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Heb:10:16-18:
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days,
saith the Lord,
I will put my laws into their hearts,
and in their minds will I write them;
And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Now where remission of these is,
there is no more offering for sin.

Is he neither able nor willing?
He is not willing to abandon the plan set out in the book to satisfy your vain demands. How does that make you feel? You could always try sincere prayer until He is in your face, it seemed to work pretty good for Daniel when there was no temple and he was not in Jerusalem.

1Co:15:20:
But now is Christ risen from the dead,
and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1Co:15:23:
But every man in his own order:
Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Re:20:4:
And I saw thrones,
and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,
or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Re:20:5:
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection.

Then why call him God?"​
How can you call him God if you haven't been gathered yet? The 12 Tribes are not whole until the 1,000 year reign starts, Gentiles are not whole until the end of Judgment Day 1,000 years later.
 

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4. Grow up!
You and the collective are the only hold-outs.


Isa:28:9:

Whom shall he teach knowledge?

and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?

them that are weaned from the milk,

and drawn from the breasts.
Isa:28:10:

For precept must be upon precept,

precept upon precept;

line upon line,

line upon line;

here a little,

and there a little:
 

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You are suffering, not just from a complete inability to answer any of my posts, but also from verbal diarrhea.

Quit quoting from brain dead, mindless rubbish and use your own brain; if any of it remains.
 

Gilgamesh

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What language do you imagine you are answering in?

Hint: It isn't English.

As I suspected, you can only quote from old garbage books. You have no mind of your own.

My deepest sympathies.