Gingrich sees Iran threat to U.S. like Nazi Germany

Nascar_James

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Ocean Breeze said:
Nascar_James said:
Ocean Breeze said:
this Newt G. don't sound too "normal' or balanced. ....

Well, we'll see how normal he sounds if he becomes the next President of the United States in 3 years.


so you plan to replace one sleazeball/warmonger with another. ???

Oh joy!!. (NOT)

Sleazeball? I'll have you know that Newt Gingrich is a former house speaker and has an extensive background in US politics. He is surely qualified to serve as President. He has expressed interest in the job. If he does nominate his candidacy for the Republican party 2008 elections, he's got a pretty good chance of being the Republican front runner.
 

pastafarian

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Boy nascar, you sure can pick 'em. Newtie may be many things but "honourable" ain't even close to making the list, pal.

Here's a guy who, while cheating on the woman he would serve with divorce papers while she was bedridden in hospital with MS, was clambering for the moral high ground in the witch-hunt against Bill Clinton. The thrice-married hypocrite has been quoted as saying that homosexual marriages would demean the institution of marriage. As well:

Gingrich was the author of an infamous secret memo to GOP leaders in 1995 titled "Language: A Key Mechanism of Control", which one of America's foremost linguists called an outline of a strategy to frame the word "liberal" as "something akin to traitor" in the media. This was in line with his once-described goal of "reshaping the entire nation through the news media" (New York Times,12/14/94).

This is a contemptible little man and thus, a worthy successor to the current President.
 

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Gingrich was the author of an infamous secret memo to GOP leaders in 1995 titled "Language: A Key Mechanism of Control", which one of America's foremost linguists called an outline of a strategy to frame the word "liberal" as "something akin to traitor" in the media. This was in line with his once-described goal of "reshaping the entire nation through the news media" (New York Times,12/14/94).


so HE Is the one who influenced the usage of wording and "language." and how certain slants,inference can be created to imply certain meanings. ??? Have read some articles on this.....and it is part of the whole neocon methodology. .....and how they have been able to convince ordinarily "normal" thinking people into a conditioned "group mentality" They have tortured the english language for their own gains.

That just reduced him from sleazeball to sleazoid. ....... :x
 

Summer

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RE: Gingrich sees Iran th

Actually, an amphibian. But in any case, it's quite an insult to the little critters.

Gingrich obviously read Orwell's "1984" as a blueprint for what to do to create his own wet dream of the U.S. of the 21st century....
 

Jay

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http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=71339&d=8&m=10&y=2005


"But it is not only the US that Abbasi wants to take on and humiliate. He has described Britain as “the mother of all evils”. In his lecture he claimed that the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, and the Gulf states were all “children of the same mother: the British Empire.” As for France and Germany, they are “countries in terminal decline”, according to Abbasi.

“Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover,” he told his audience."

No comment on this?
 

Reverend Blair

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Gingrich obviously read Orwell's "1984" as a blueprint for what to do to create his own wet dream of the U.S. of the 21st century.

Gingrich is a good example of what is wrong with the Republican Party. He's entrenched in a past that never existed, hypocritical, and has no regard for his fellow human beings.
 

Jay

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Reverend Blair said:
Since it's off-topic and fear-mongering, we've been ignoring it, Jay.

It is neither of those two things.
 

ElPolaco

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Nascar_James said:
Ocean Breeze said:
Nascar_James said:
Ocean Breeze said:
this Newt G. don't sound too "normal' or balanced. ....

Well, we'll see how normal he sounds if he becomes the next President of the United States in 3 years.


so you plan to replace one sleazeball/warmonger with another. ???

Oh joy!!. (NOT)

Sleazeball? I'll have you know that Newt Gingrich is a former house speaker and has an extensive background in US politics. He is surely qualified to serve as President. He has expressed interest in the job. If he does nominate his candidacy for the Republican party 2008 elections, he's got a pretty good chance of being the Republican front runner.

In other words, a sleazeball warmonger.
 

jjw1965

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It's not Iran I'd be worried about .
Gingrich obviously read Orwell's "1984" as a blueprint for what to do to create his own wet dream of the U.S. of the 21st century.

most of the articles I post are like pieces in a puzzle, when you get enough of them you get a pretty good ideal what the pictures going to look like, based on past events involving the US it wouldn't be to hard for them to set off a nuke and blame it on Iran.

Pretty good pretext for a police state.
 

pastafarian

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jimmoyer, the reason I'm focused on the US as opposed to Colombia, Uzbekistan, China, Israel, Turkey, Syria, Indonesia, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Zimbabwe or any of the other hundred-plus nations committing some sort of human rights abuse, is that alone among almost all of them, the US claims to support freedom, democracy and human rights.
They are supposedly our allies, and the albeit small voice that civil society can have in changing the government's actions, sometimes does speak for protesters.

Canada's economic ties to the US and the dependence of our neighbours on our energy exports and our market for their manufactured goods, means that we have the vanishinglu small, but still nonzero probability of swaying our government to apply pressure on them.

Since the US is the largest arms dealer on the planet, as well as the strongest anti-democratic force in the world, they are also for these reasons a more natural target of our concern than, say Iran or North Korea, who have neither the power to wreak on the world what the US can, nor any concern at all for our protest of their actions or regimes.

Personally, I expect countering the lies, omissions and errors of the media is futile in the short term, and I'm sure that our "democratic" system is so well-tailored to maintaining the status quo that no real change will take place within the system. I doubt any real changes will take place during my lifetime, but obviously I have no idea if there are "tipping points" in place, global upheavals or revolutions around the corner.

Still, my reading of history is that a slender, often all-but-invisible thread of morality and social justice has pervaded our political institutions and has seen larger and larger fractions of humanity freed from oppression and misery. It has piggy-backed on technological advances as well as a gradual increase in the level of education of the world's population.

Progressive people like those on this board, if they can mellow the rigid ideology of even one other person and get them to question authority and dogma have, I believe, recruited another drop of water to wear away at the stone fortress of greed and exploitation.

Maybe we're just whistling past the graveyard but at least we're making music. At least that's my take on it.
 

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pastafarian said:
jimmoyer, the reason I'm focused on the US as opposed to Colombia, Uzbekistan, China, Israel, Turkey, Syria, Indonesia, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Zimbabwe or any of the other hundred-plus nations committing some sort of human rights abuse, is that alone among almost all of them, the US claims to support freedom, democracy and human rights.
They are supposedly our allies, and the albeit small voice that civil society can have in changing the government's actions, sometimes does speak for protesters.

Canada's economic ties to the US and the dependence of our neighbours on our energy exports and our market for their manufactured goods, means that we have the vanishinglu small, but still nonzero probability of swaying our government to apply pressure on them.

Since the US is the largest arms dealer on the planet, as well as the strongest anti-democratic force in the world, they are also for these reasons a more natural target of our concern than, say Iran or North Korea, who have neither the power to wreak on the world what the US can, nor any concern at all for our protest of their actions or regimes.

Personally, I expect countering the lies, omissions and errors of the media is futile in the short term, and I'm sure that our "democratic" system is so well-tailored to maintaining the status quo that no real change will take place within the system. I doubt any real changes will take place during my lifetime, but obviously I have no idea if there are "tipping points" in place, global upheavals or revolutions around the corner.

Still, my reading of history is that a slender, often all-but-invisible thread of morality and social justice has pervaded our political institutions and has seen larger and larger fractions of humanity freed from oppression and misery. It has piggy-backed on technological advances as well as a gradual increase in the level of education of the world's population.

Progressive people like those on this board, if they can mellow the rigid ideology of even one other person and get them to question authority and dogma have, I believe, recruited another drop of water to wear away at the stone fortress of greed and exploitation.

Maybe we're just whistling past the graveyard but at least we're making music. At least that's my take on it.

I respect this post of yours Pastafarian, I don't necessarily agree with everything you say, it's from a socialists' point of view. But you express yourself from the heart, and not the usual gibberish you read filled with vitriol. At the very least, you made an effort to convey your thoughts to some of that don't agree with the general mindset of this board. Nevertheless I truely enjoyed reading it, and you got my wheels turning. Thanks.
 

pastafarian

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mellow the rigid ideology of even one other person and get them to question authority and dogma

And while we're all warm and fuzzy, jimmoyer, I'll add that this quote goes for rigid ideologues on all sides of the spectrum. I do have a couple of opinions that tend to be associated with the "right".
 

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jjw1965 said:
WASHINGTON – The threat posed to the national security of the United States by Iran was likened only to the one posed by Nazi Germany in the 1930s, by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich,

I don't disagree with that part, since Nazi Germany posed no threat to the US whatsoever. What a moron Gingrich is. I assume he can't actually read history.