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The Missing Heat

Posted on March 4, 2014 by Louis Hissink
It is established that compiling the radiative budget of the earth results in less energy leaving the earth system than what enters it. This has led the Kevin Trenberth’s, by now famous, theory that the missing heat is being stored in the earth’s oceans.
This is quite correct but not in the way he believes.
Water is peculiar in that its specific heat, the amount of energy needed to raise a unit volume of water one Kelvin is double that of ice, or vapour.
This is due to the experimental observation by Gerald Pollack, his co-workers and students that the formation of EZ water, basically liquid crystal, involves not only the raising of its temperature, but at the same time, also causes electric-charge separation forming a sort of water-battery. The most efficient radiation to achieve this is infra-red radiation.
For water the algebra is:
2E = E(temp) + E(EZ)
The problem is that when this water loses heat, or energy, by conduction etc, it only loses half of what it receives, leading to the conclusion that the other half is missing and is being stored somewhere as “heat”. Correct in one sense.
It’s not missing at all – it’s been converted to electrical energy via the EZ water mechanism. That electrical energy is constrained within the top 500 metres, or however thick it is depending on pH, of the oceans and is returned to space not as heat, but as work via cyclones/hurricanes/typhoons. Remember that sea-water is an excellent conductor of electricity, mainly because of the EZ water mechanism.
It’s more complex, of course, but for a back of envelope scribbling, this will do for the moment.
Climate science’s problem is that it thinks with too few ideas, and hence limits the number of explanations it has at its disposal to explain observations and measurements.
As Henry Bauer noted in response to a comment I made recently on his science blog,
That’s IF there’s heat building up….

More seriously: Pollack’s book, “The Fourth Phase of Water”, is simply terrific. The work deserves to be counted as a genuine scientific revolution. I worked in electrochemistry for a couple of decades, knew the traditional stuff about surface tension, specific heat, electrical double layer, so the EZ thing was simply astonishing, but utterly convincing because of the experimental evidence.
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Update: I should have mentioned that the earth’s surface is 70% water, hence it is the physical behaviour of water, per se, that dominates the earth’s weather and hence climate.
 

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It is established that compiling the radiative budget of the earth results in less energy leaving the earth system than what enters it. This has led the Kevin Trenberth’s, by now famous, theory that the missing heat is being stored in the earth’s oceans.
Funny, it led everybody else to the theory that the million-mile wide thermonuclear fusion reactor (sometimes called a "star") a mere 150,000,000 kilometers away is pumping heat into the "earth system." They even came up with a fancy name for it, "insolation."
 

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Funny, it led everybody else to the theory that the million-mile wide thermonuclear fusion reactor (sometimes called a "star") a mere 150,000,000 kilometers away is pumping heat into the "earth system." They even came up with a fancy name for it, "insolation."

Don't be stupid the temperature gradient is all wrong in that MODEL.
 

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If the rift in the Atlantic (and Pacific) spread at the rate fingernails grow would that lower the height of the level of the ocean if there was not an equal amount of subduction?

The sun certainly adds heat to the earth at levels that vary, it does not account for the increase in heat as you travel to the earth's core. If that temp varies at all then that would control how fast the rifts spread and if many or a few volcanoes are going off at the same time just because the volume of the liquid part varies with it's temperature.
 

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True and that only leaves the expanding earth as the alternative theory. That being said if the Atlantic and Pacific are both expanding rifts then the downward flow would be along a line from James Bay to the GOM.
 

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Well I guess the rifts must be caused by other forces then.

I will post an alternative theory as soon as I remember where it is.

Serious Issues with Plate Tectonics

Posted on June 8, 2012 by Stephen Smith
Geological map of Alaska showing various exotic terranes. Credit: USGS

June 8, 2012
David Pratt’s publication in the year 2000 enumerates multiple problems affecting the theory of plate tectonics and seafloor spreading.

In the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 14, No. 3, pages 307–352, David Pratt took issue with the theory of tectonic displacement of continental and ocean floor structure. As he wrote: “The classical model of thin lithospheric plates moving over a global asthenosphere is shown to be implausible.”

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 140404.htm
 

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Serious Issues with Plate Tectonics

Plate tectonics represents the dominant presumption among geophysicists for Earth’s current configuration. The shapes of the continents, as well as earthquakes and volcanoes, are said to be due to the movement of crustal blocks that move apart from one another in some places, while sliding under (subducting) each other in other places. For example, the mid-ocean ridge is supposed to be where Earth’s crust is being pushed apart by upwelling magma. A “seam” of relatively thin crust allows volcanic processes to erupt, creating new seafloor crust that gradually forces the continents to spread apart.
Not sure if thin is the best word, cracked would seem to be a better term. If the Atlantic is doing the same as the Pacific side why are there no volcanoes on the east coast on NA and SA or the west coast of Europe and Africa?



In other places, such as the coast of North America, the pressure from hardened magma in the mid-ocean ridge eruptions is said to force the seafloor into a subduction zone beneath the continent. As the crust is forced down into the depths under North America, it is melted by the hot magma in a kind of lithospheric recycling system. The water in the rocks supposedly becomes water vapor, causing the magma to rise along the continental boundary, forming plutons that eventually find weak spots in the crust. Those weak spots are where volcanoes form. The theory is used to explain the presence of the many volcanoes along North America’s western edge.
Off the west coast of Canada the Pacific plate is also spreading, 200M ago the rift was at the BC/AB border and it has been creeping westward for that long. That is where the bulk of BC came from as it was crust that was sheered off rather than being forced under where it would have lifted the whole crust up to a certain extent.



250 million years ago, all the continents are thought to have been consolidated into one large landmass called Pangea. What caused Pangea to fracture into the great “plates” on which the continents ride is not known, although many theories have been presented. It is commonly thought that plate tectonics is a cyclical process, therefore Pangea was not the first time that the continents came together, nor will it be the last.
Pangea doesn't fit with the oceanic crust age, for Pangea to be true the Pacific crust would have to be older than the Atlantic, it isn't so the Pacific did not exist before that Atlantic did.




What are Pratt’s concerns with the current theory of Plate Tectonics?
1. The lithosphere is not a contiguous structure. There are alternating layers that make the separation of the lithosphere from the asthenosphere impossible to determine.


It would still work like a pot of water, hot material would rise and the cooler material would sink. When the rising material comes under the crust is splits and goes in two directions. It also exerts a lot of upward force on the crust in that location and the split in direction would also try and pull the crust with it. That is why the rifts are spreading and all rifts are spreading rather than just a few here and there.



2. Earthquakes and volcanoes are supposed to define plate edges. However, recent oceanic research detected earthquakes at depths that are supposed to have no seismic activity, since the deep oceans are far from plate boundaries.
Not according to the oceanic crust map, Hawaii is an exception and google earth can show you a chain of mountains that have formed because the crust moved over a stationary hot spot. Iceland has rifts also and that is because there is a meeting of rifts there, no subduction at all.



3. Many plates seem not to even exist. As Pratt describes, the northwest boundary of the Pacific, North American, and Eurasian plates, the southern boundary of the Philippine plate, part of the southern boundary of the Pacific plate, and most of the northern and southern boundaries of the South American plate, are fictitious.
The plates are clearly defined in the map above as are the shelfs



4. The appearance of the “continental fit” is an illusion. Many proposals for how the present day continents fit together leave out important considerations. Overlaps of the continental shelves are passed over, while gaps are given no credence. The reader is referred to pages 7-9 of Pratt’s paper.
Here is one more theory.





5. The assumption that rocks are magnetized when they form, and that they retain that magnetization over eons of time is untenable. Furthermore, it is necessary that they retain the magnetic orientation that existed on Earth at the time of their formation.
Not relevant to this post



6. Rather than India being an island for over 200 million years after it separated from Antarctica, and before it “crashed into” Asia, the evidence is that it has always been part of Asia. India shows no sign of a unique flora and fauna that would suggest hundreds of millions of years as an isolated environment, such as the biota in Australia.
I agree.


7. Heat flow from the spreading zones in the mid-ocean does not fall off farther from the zone. Instead, there is hardly any variance in temperature distribution from the ridges and the rest of the ocean. This fact contradicts a concentrated flow of magma creating new crust in the seams of the ocean floor.
The crust in that area is being pushed up rather than new magma making it all the way to the surface except for a few scattered volcanoes.


8. The seafloor spreading theory of magnetic anomalies on the ocean floor has been disproven by drilling cores. The so-called “magnetic bands” on the ocean bottom have been found to be composed of isolated ovals, rather than linear formations.
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Ah well lots of details to think about, lots of features to consider, maybe when we win a deep sea sub we can have a better idea. Tim Horton's are giving a few away this year. I'v seen a lot of diagrams and read a few theories I guess if they don't mention plasma and conductance they ain't in the business. Big arcs can carve awful big features awfully fast. Making mountains is fast and efficient with electrical currents, that's what makes molten rock.

By the way the expanding earth is a good theory, planetary mass is variable, it's added or subtracted in electrical equalizations.