Gasoline Prices

tibear

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Jay,

Our current PM transfers as much of his financial interests outside of Canada as he can. That way he doesn't have to pay the high taxes he imposes on the rest of us!!!!
 

Jay

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Our current PM transfers as much of his financial interests outside of Canada as he can. That way he doesn't have to pay the high taxes he imposes on the rest of us!!!!



Another true socialist Canadian!!
 

peapod

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You know exactly what money I am talking about lip smack, its stealing and you wanna use it cause your running out of your own. I live in British Columbia so I know exactly what has been done with softwood lumber tariffs. Keep it up, it only shows the entire world what you are really about.

In the meantime...ninininiinninininininininininininiininniniinini
 

Reverend Blair

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And some on the other side see it as dumping; that is stealing too.

no?

They lost in front of the trade commissions that they agreed would regulate these things and make such decisions. No dumping was found. Giving tariffs to an industry is also double jeopary. The US is in violation of trade agreements that it signed onto. It is breaking its own laws.

So Canada is not over taxed? You think you should be taxed more?

Hey it's your money.

And I use my money to pay my bills instead of mortgaging the lives of future generations. It's called taking responsibility.

Well, I dunno. I'm not the expert on these matters, but if our wonderful governments are subsidizing these damaging companies, why should they be immune from law suits?

It's the corporations doing the damage and profitting from it.

Our current PM transfers as much of his financial interests outside of Canada as he can. That way he doesn't have to pay the high taxes he imposes on the rest of us!!!!

And Mulroney sits on many US-owned corporate boards? And which party was it that protected Cargill after they stole money from our farmers and ranchers? I'm not saying that Martin is innocent, mind you, I'm saying that he's no more guilty than the people you hold in such high esteem. Anybody who considers Martin to be a socialist is clearly out of touch with reality.
 

tibear

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Please find me one of my posts where I've praised Brian Mulroney for anything. The man was a crook, but the Liberal party I find worse because their whole campaign in 1992 was to change everything the Conservatives did and they left everything EXACTLY as it was, except to kill a contract that has ended up costing us millions if not billions of dollars more today then it would have cost back then.

The fact that Canadians keep this party in power is completely beyond me.
 

Twila

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Pea, You in the Sidney area?

I grew up out there. Some of the growing up. Mostly in the physical sense. I'm still working on the mental sense. lol
 

tibear

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RB,

What do personally have against Mr Harper??

The man has a moral conscience, so what?? If you were in power can you honestly tell me that you would never pass any sort of morality law?? Let me ask you a question, if you were suddenly elected in PM or President or whatever they have in Malaysia. Would you do something to stop the teen prostitution sex trade that goes on there??
 

Reverend Blair

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There's a huge difference between stopping children being forced into being sex slaves and trying to keep consenting adults from marrying who they please, Tibear.

What do I have against Mr. Harper? His policies, his history, his lack of leadership, his dishonesty, his willingness to impose his religious beliefs on people who do not share those beliefs, the fact that he went campaigning in Saskatoon and refused to discuss agricultural issues, his bizarre and incompetent handling of the recent budget vote...I'll give you a complete list for 50 cents a word, but I really can't spare an entire week of typing for free right now.
 

Jay

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Anybody who considers Martin to be a socialist is clearly out of touch with reality.

Ya OK. Well I hate to inform you there’s a bunch of socialists sitting in the so called right on this nation too Rev.

http://dictionary.reference.com

Socialism

"Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."


Socialist

An advocate of socialism.
 

bogie

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I leave for a couple of months, and look what I miss .... this is good stuff!

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Taking into consideration the difference in our dollar, the size of a gallon of gasoline (US and Imperial), and conversion to litres, Canadian gas, in some places, is cheaper to buy (even considering our "high taxes"), for visiting Americans using US$, than it is to buy in the US for the same amount of fuel. The US and Canada have the least expensive gasoline anywhere - and we complain?!! Look on the other side of the fence (rest of world) - it isn't greener (as the saying goes).

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Canadian governments, federal or provincial.
It doesn't make too much of a difference who gets in - Liberals, or Conservatives. Promises are made, promises are broken, people are still gullible enough to vote for the most creative campaigns. And Canadians are infamous for radical turns in political support - especially in Ontario.

We don't get to elect our Prime Minister, at all. We elect local representatives for whatever party we want. Some vote party, some vote person. Those representatives vote for their party leader. Whatever party collects the most marbles wins. Whoever is leading that party becomes our Prime Minister.

AND ... our Prime Minister does not have the same powers as the US President.

Let's clarify things here - Canada does NOT have a democractic government, US style - we have a parliamentary system. This system is elected through democratic-style voting, but, what may be considered by US standards, a "round-about" way of doing things.

As one comedian said, "We don't care who gets elected, but, please, when you become Prime Minister, DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING!".
 

Reverend Blair

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So has the Martin government secretly been taking over privately owned businesses? Did they commandeer Wal-Mart or Ford of Canada when I wasn't looking?
 

tibear

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With the number of subsidies some Quebec companies(Bombadier for example) the government might as well buy them.
 

Jay

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Re: RE: Gasoline Prices

tibear said:
With the number of subsidies some Quebec companies(Bombadier for example) the government might as well buy them.


It happens here in Ontario too Tibear.

Ford and GM don't like to operate in Ontario without all sorts of subsidies and accommodations from various governments.


Lets start out own Car company...What shall we call our Canadian car?
 

Jay

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Re: RE: Gasoline Prices

Reverend Blair said:
So has the Martin government secretly been taking over privately owned businesses? Did they commandeer Wal-Mart or Ford of Canada when I wasn't looking?


Is that what Socialism means to you Rev. Taking over retailers and auto manufactures?
 

Reverend Blair

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No, that's what you seemed to be implying. The Bush regime heavily subsidizes several corporations. Are you saying they are socialists? The Alberta government subsidizes the oil industry through price structures. Are you saying that Ralph Klein is a socialist?

You understand neither what socialism is nor how a mixed economy works, Jay.
 

Jay

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Re: RE: Gasoline Prices

Reverend Blair said:
No, that's what you seemed to be implying. The Bush regime heavily subsidizes several corporations. Are you saying they are socialists? The Alberta government subsidizes the oil industry through price structures. Are you saying that Ralph Klein is a socialist?

You understand neither what socialism is nor how a mixed economy works, Jay.


Jay said:
Anybody who considers Martin to be a socialist is clearly out of touch with reality.

Ya OK. Well I hate to inform you there’s a bunch of socialists sitting in the so called right on this nation too Rev.

http://dictionary.reference.com

Socialism

"Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."


Socialist

An advocate of socialism.

In case you missed this post.



Reverend Blair said:
You understand neither what socialism is nor how a mixed economy works, Jay.

I understand what socialism is and what it is used for, Perhaps I don't understand your brand of socialism.

A mixed economy is part of this socialism in Canada. I don't particularly care for it. It can have its uses from time to time, like driving my province into debt.

I'm no Socialist, but you are.
 

Reverend Blair

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I don't deny being a socialist, Jay. My point is that Paul Martin isn't. You toss words around, but you don't grasp their meaning or implications. You make political statements, but you don't bother to learn about the policies that you are talking about.

The only real difference between Paul Martin and Stephen Harper is Harper's willingness to impose his religious beliefs on the rest of us. Their economic policies are very similar.
 

Jay

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Lets say that if Harper thinks the current health care system is OK, (as Paul Martin the Socialist does) then he is a socialist.