Is this the way of the future? Are we losing the right to choose our own beliefs?
YouTube - Muslim Demographics
YouTube - Muslim Demographics
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That was pretty funny. Call to action! Yes all you christians out there, hump your brains out or you will be over run by Muslims.
Hey, any young christian women want to be impregnated can call me any time, night or day.
Hey, any young christian women want to be impregnated can call me any time, night or day.
I don't think it's funny at all Cliff. It should be taken very seriously. Too many young Canadians don't want to bring children into this world because of the violence there is today. I worked with a fellow who would have made a wonderful father (I don't know his wife) but they chose not to have children simply because of the way of the world today. They foster children but they won't bring one into this world themselves. That's sad.
"It's time to wake up" the guy says. Muslim, Christian, Jainism, Hinduism, it's all based on hearsay. Few have woken up to that yet.
So Christianity dies out, it's just one less pile of dogma in the world.
One down, a dozen left to go.
So Christianity dies out, it's just one less pile of dogma in the world.
One down, a dozen left to go.
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This concerns me alright... it's concerning that someone would go to the trouble of making this paranoid hateful clip.
Muslims are not insects. They do not operate on a hive mind. They're not sleeper agents about to flip and of one mind take over the world. Many Muslim sects to my understanding, much like varied Christian sects, don't even get along with one another. The fact that immigrants are coming in and having kids and giving us a tax base on which we can survive (note the beginning says our societies can't sustain themselves without it), is frankly a blessing. I'd hate to see where our elder care ends up in 40 years without immigrants.
Muslims are not insects. They do not operate on a hive mind. They're not sleeper agents about to flip and of one mind take over the world. Many Muslim sects to my understanding, much like varied Christian sects, don't even get along with one another. The fact that immigrants are coming in and having kids and giving us a tax base on which we can survive (note the beginning says our societies can't sustain themselves without it), is frankly a blessing. I'd hate to see where our elder care ends up in 40 years without immigrants.
All right woman...... that's enough being sensible, and bashing the poor tin hatters.
P.S. and I would have given ya a green....but it won't let me.
Why do we have to make it about Muslims or Christians. I think the important underlying message is that we are not producing enough people anymore in the world and that's what we should be focusing on. What people need to take note of is that it may be the Muslims who keep this world (humankind) going - populated in otherwords, with humans. It is time for a wake up call but not against Muslims for goodness sakes. It's time for people to quit being afraid to produce children. I keep hearing the same old selfish excuse that the world is not safe enough to bring children into. It's as safe as it ever was before. We just hear about things faster now due to technology.
Yeah, keep multiplying like it says in the Bible. Multiply everything else off the planet so there's nothing but people on it. Multiply ourselves right out of food and fresh water. Good plan.
I love people. Any type of people. But I also love the planet and hate seeing people ruining it.
I love people. Any type of people. But I also love the planet and hate seeing people ruining it.
I think he is being too simplistic. No doubt the birth rate among Muslim immigrants is high, but what is the rate among the second generation immigrants? My guess would be that it is a lot less than first generation immigrants.
Second generation Muslims are used to prosperity, they want the same standard of living as anybody else, I seriously doubt that they have seven or eight children per family.
So I am not sure I believe his projections. I think all the first generation immigrants have a high birth rate, whether Hindu, Muslim or Christian. But experience has shown that birth rate drops in subsequent generations. The number of Muslims will no doubt increase in years to come, but I am not sure it will increase that much.
Anyway, I have said all along that in Canada we should be careful who we let in. Personally I would prefer some kind of written test for immigrants, to judge how they feel about equal rights, minority rights, gay rights etc. Those with more extreme views could be kept out.
Second generation Muslims are used to prosperity, they want the same standard of living as anybody else, I seriously doubt that they have seven or eight children per family.
So I am not sure I believe his projections. I think all the first generation immigrants have a high birth rate, whether Hindu, Muslim or Christian. But experience has shown that birth rate drops in subsequent generations. The number of Muslims will no doubt increase in years to come, but I am not sure it will increase that much.
Anyway, I have said all along that in Canada we should be careful who we let in. Personally I would prefer some kind of written test for immigrants, to judge how they feel about equal rights, minority rights, gay rights etc. Those with more extreme views could be kept out.
I think it's funny when people assume that if a chunk, not to mention a majority, of a country becomes Muslims that automatically means it will become an "Islamic Republic" and institute Shari'ah. While the term "Islamic Republic" might be slapped on (i.e. Iran), unfortunately every single Muslim country out there proves that doing so does not lead to the institution of Shari'ah, whose basis includes everyone being subject to it and no one being above it. What would most likely is that the cultures of those people who become the majority will influence the direction of said country's future. Edit: I just want to note that this is not simply my view, but a seemingly shared view amongst most of the Muslims I've ever met.
SirJosephPorter, the degree of religious observance amongst 2nd generation immigrants varies from country to country, though it seems that there is a general trend of more Western nation-born Muslims of immigrant being more practicing than their parents. However, I don't know what the percentage of 2nd generation immigrants that includes, and even within that group of those who practice Islam more than their parents there is variation in religious observance as well.
Edit: Also, to expand upon karrie's point of taking care of the elderly, most immigrant Muslims come from cultures where the family actually takes care of their elders themselves (i.e. they live with them), and therefore wouldn't be burdening the geriatric health care system as much as old-aged Canadians of non-20th century immigration background do.
SirJosephPorter, the degree of religious observance amongst 2nd generation immigrants varies from country to country, though it seems that there is a general trend of more Western nation-born Muslims of immigrant being more practicing than their parents. However, I don't know what the percentage of 2nd generation immigrants that includes, and even within that group of those who practice Islam more than their parents there is variation in religious observance as well.
Edit: Also, to expand upon karrie's point of taking care of the elderly, most immigrant Muslims come from cultures where the family actually takes care of their elders themselves (i.e. they live with them), and therefore wouldn't be burdening the geriatric health care system as much as old-aged Canadians of non-20th century immigration background do.
Incidentally, I know several Muslim families (some of them doctors). None of them have a large family, they all have 2 or 3 children.
I don't understand what them being doctors has to do with it, but yeah, the general trend in the Middle East for birthrates is one of decline. Instead of 8-9 kids per family, it's more like only 3-4 now.
The other thing is the assumption that Muslim = immigrant. It's just as common for a person of Christian background to adopt the Christian Faith as it is in reverse, perhaps even more so. According to this, such persons become immigrants by changing their religion.
Is the video implying that we should impose a Christian Theocracy to fight this?
Is the video implying that we should impose a Christian Theocracy to fight this?
I don't like religion. They all try to dominate. It doesn't matter which one succeeds. The only tragedy is that one of them is about to and we're going to enter a dark age, probably long, brutal and bloody if history is any indicator, one that is likely to last as long as the one imposed on us by Christianity.
That is the tragedy IMO.
That is the tragedy IMO.
Oh yes scotty....the sky is falling, the sky is falling..... those horrible "God lovers" are gonna take over and all you poor athiests and agnostics will be burned at the stake.:roll:
That might have to do largely with the fact that not one single scrap of research I've seen has ever linked dropping birth rates with any specific religion, but rather, to the level of education amongst the women of that society. And in the last couple generations, I would hazard a guess that the education levels have risen for Middle Eastern women considerably.