From Watergate to Downing Street -- Lying for War

no1important

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I know there is a rumour of a warrent for Rumsfeld's arrest in Germany.

I think once "W" finishes his term and dares to travel abroad it could be easier to arrest him for war crimes if someone files charges. Rove, Howard, Blair and Cheney should be arrested as well.

Rumsfeld Cancels Trip Out of Fear of Arrest

Expatica, a newsmagazine for English-speaking expatriates in Germany, reports that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has canceled a trip to Germany out of fear of arrest. Rumsfeld's decision comes on the heels of a complaint filed by the New York based Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR). According to the CCR:

German law allows German courts to prosecute for killing, torture, cruel and inhumane treatment, forcible transfers and sexual coercion such as occurred at Abu Ghraib. The world has seen the photographs and read the leaked "torture memos". We are doing what is necessary when other systems of justice have failed and seeking to hold officials up the chain of command responsible for the shameful abuses that occurred.

Rumsfeld originally planned to attend the Munich Security Conference this February. Attending in his place with be Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith. Feith is not among the officials named in the CCR complaint.
 

Ocean Breeze

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I remember that. Interesting isn't it??? For someone who is part of a group that defies/ignores International law......is afraid of it enough to cancel a trip. His decision is as good as a "confession". :?
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
I remember that. Interesting isn't it??? For someone who is part of a group that defies/ignores International law......is afraid of it enough to cancel a trip. His decision is as good as a "confession". :?

Your right. An innocent person would not of been afraid to go. Innocent people have a habit of wanting to clear themselves. Rumsfeld is just a "chicken little".
 

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no1important said:
Ocean Breeze said:
I remember that. Interesting isn't it??? For someone who is part of a group that defies/ignores International law......is afraid of it enough to cancel a trip. His decision is as good as a "confession". :?

Your right. An innocent person would not of been afraid to go. Innocent people have a habit of wanting to clear themselves. Rumsfeld is just a "chicken little".


......as well as a criminal avoiding the law. :evil:
 

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AI: Arrest Rumsfeld and Gonzalez
Filed under: Sunday Shows The Left— Mark @ 11:08 am
Amnesty International USA chief William Shulz recently declared that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez should be careful if they vacation in the French Riviera or Acapulco as they would be subject to arrest. On FOX News Sunday this morning, he stipulated that as signatories of the Geneva Convention, France and Mexico would have an obligation to arrest Rumsfeld and Gonzalez for violating that treaty.


hmm. an additional tidbit that I just found.... :?
 

Ocean Breeze

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Rummy don't back down from nobody.


that makes him even more of a fool ,than he appears to be.(in addition to being a "wanted criminal" (as well as a THUG) :twisted:


(discretion is the better part of valor)

must feel comforting having one's gov' t run by criminals & thugs.. :roll:

On second thought, it is no surprise that many in politics are also "lawyers". Some one once said that "lawyers" are semi rehabilitated criminals. :wink:
 

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050618/ts_alt_afp/usiraqbushattacks_050618171549


NOW.....bush says , he invaded Iraq because of 9-11. :roll: :roll: :roll:

hmmm... guess he kinda forgot about dem deadly threatening WMD that he was so CERTAIN about , that "justified" his military action. And then we were led to believe , that it was something about "freedom and democracy" in Iraq......and on and on and on.

When are people going to clue in that this chap is NUTS?? If he believes half of what he says.......he is a major in the psychiatric dysfunctional field. Does he really think that the US population /or world is THAT stupid/naive??? :idea:


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excerpt from link:

Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror," said the president.


Ummm. No, not ALL of us agree with that either. :roll:
 

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Re: RE: From Watergate to Dow

Ocean Breeze said:
Toro said:
no1important said:
Toro said:
I doubt that report from Germany is true. Rummy don't back down from nobody.

Then why did he not go?

Well, who wants to go to Germany? Really?

particularly when one might be arrested :wink:

Germany - no history, lousy beer, flat as a pancake. Besides, why'd anyone leave America? I mean, what's the point?
 

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Their Beer is better than American beer. Actually most beer is better than the watered down stuff they call beer in America.
 

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no1important said:
Their Beer is better than American beer. Actually most beer is better than the watered down stuff they call beer in America.

Oh c'mon. Anything that is mass produced is just "cooking beer", no matter where its produced, including that Belgian brewer Labatts and that American brewer Coors Molson.

Love the avatar!
 

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The problem with American beer is deeply rooted in prohibition. The US brewers, who were of German descent and were using German-style recipes, started making beer without alcohol in it. To do so they altered their recipes.

When prohibition ended they started making beer with alcohol in it again, but kept the recipes that lead to an almost complete lack of flavour.

Other places have mass-produced beer. That beer, whether you like the taste or not, actually has flavour though. American beer would have no flavour at all were it not for the tinny taste produced by the cans.

Plus the Coors family is comprised of a bunch of union-busting radically right-wing freaks.