France in 2040 will be mostly Muslim.

[Machjo]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will be mostly Muslim.

I still say: I'd rather my European homeland remain European. They have their countries and nation-states, which are almost 100% their kind, why can't we? Europe is economically successful, and thats what lures these people to our countries in the first place... when it's all gone, do you think they will really have a connection to France, the UK and Germany? I highly doubt it. Most of these "French Youths" or immigrant enclaves inside of France do not even consider themselves remotely French or European. That includes the second and third generations (actually, even moreso).

Firsthand experience in Germany with muslim enclaves has not been good.

Blackleaf: I don't know why you are going after France about this.. I know also firsthand that ethnically British people are fleeing from British cities such as (especially) Manchester, London or even Birmingham.. these cities are, well, comparable to France's main cities.

(Edited for Clarity)

Now you're confusing ethnicity with religion. I'd considered Islam once; had I accepted it, would that mean that I would have become a foreigner all of a sudden?

 

[Machjo]

One point though; no one and no government policy could ever prevent any religion from becomming the majority religion; it's just a question of how many people adopt the faith in question. For instance, should 60% of Canadians suddenly convert to Islam tomorrow, what's the government going to do about it? And what are you going to do about it? There's be nothing you could do.

As for halting immigration, that's one thing that can be done; but as preventing people from adopting a new religion, I don't think any library is aobut to take the Qur'an off the shelves any time soon.

 

[Doryman]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will b

Yeah that's the general consensus these days around the World. Religious idealism and total assbackwardness in arab nations has perpetuated this ideal. It's not our fault they can't exist normally in the 21st Century.

Your the idiot that thinks all Muslims are like that.

This thread is filled with racism.

You know, we're kinda going back to how all us Europeans felt about the Jews before WW2. Only reason they arnt excluded from everything anymore is because of how they we're treated by the Nazi.

What all of you are doing is exactly the same thing.

Dispecable. Revolting. You should all be ashamed.

Why is it that when Muslims declare fatwas and Jihads against us because our "evil" western culture is infiltrating their societies, it's considered just desserts for our horrible ways... but when Western countries decide that they need to stop or slow down the Muslim infiltration of their countries, it's unabashed racism and bigotry??

I'm tired of the West being held to a higher standard than the rest of the World. Why should I be tolerant and respectful of others cultures when Iran and the Saudis label us the "Great Satan"? Why should my country strive to be as multicultural as possible when every other region is maintaining its own culture/religion/political philosophy as the dominant power? What's wrong with preserving my own culture??

The Muslims have every right to try and become the dominant power in our country, just as we have every right to stop them and maintain our place.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will b

Why is it that when Muslims declare fatwas and Jihads against us because our "evil" western culture is infiltrating their societies, it's considered just desserts for our horrible ways... but when Western countries decide that they need to stop or slow down the Muslim infiltration of their countries, it's unabashed racism and bigotry??

I'm tired of the West being held to a higher standard than the rest of the World. Why should I be tolerant and respectful of others cultures when Iran and the Saudis label us the "Great Satan"? Why should my country strive to be as multicultural as possible when every other region is maintaining its own culture/religion/political philosophy as the dominant power? What's wrong with preserving my own culture??

Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.
Ann Coulter

While the form of treachery varies slightly from case to case, liberals always manage to take the position that most undermines American security.
Ann Coulter

 

[jimmoyer]

Jay, that used to not be so, with FDR, Truman, JFK, RFK,
LBJ, Hubert Humphrey, Scoop Jackson, Sam Nunn (one of the greatest anti nuclear proliferation experts) and
Pat Moynihan (god bless his soul ---one of the greatest
senators in modern times) -----all were cold war warriors.

Yep I vote Republican, but I came from the Democratic
Party that was on the vanguard of defense, and on the
vanguard of many issues, and now they are a collection
of victim psychology coalition groups.

Lieberman, Obama, the New Mexico Governor are some of their best. I still hold a liking for Joe Biden, despite
some of his more politically opportunistic stands. He
knew this war was not about making oil pay for the war,
and he would have done well making the Bush
administration really consider the aftermath of Iraq.

But every Presidential administration circles the
wagons. Every President isolates himself in the
bunker.

 

[Nuggler]

:? :? :?

8) 8) 8)

practising the "gaelic" shrug............c'est le guerre :roll:

8O

 

[Jersay]

Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.
Ann Coulter

While the form of treachery varies slightly from case to case, liberals always manage to take the position that most undermines American security.
Ann Coulter

:roll:

Yeap I have to agree with the seperatist guy. Great intolerance people have in the Western world. Probably as bad as in the Muslim world. Great way saying your progressive than 'ass-backwards' Muslim nations.

Not.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will be mostly Muslim.

Jay, that used to not be so, with FDR, Truman, JFK, RFK,
LBJ, Hubert Humphrey, Scoop Jackson, Sam Nunn (one of the greatest anti nuclear proliferation experts) and
Pat Moynihan (god bless his soul ---one of the greatest
senators in modern times) -----all were cold war warriors.

Things are sure different these days though, wouldn't you say?


I like Ann...she's a breath of fresh American air. Clearly she should run for President. (The middle East thinks were on their backs now...wait till Ann has her way with them.)

 

[Jay]

Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.
Ann Coulter

While the form of treachery varies slightly from case to case, liberals always manage to take the position that most undermines American security.
Ann Coulter

:roll:

Yeap I have to agree with the seperatist guy. Great intolerance people have in the Western world. Probably as bad as in the Muslim world. Great way saying your progressive than 'ass-backwards' Muslim nations.

Not.

Probably is the key word to your statment.


Why don't you do us a favour and go sit at the immigration buildings and tell all the newcomers there just how bad it is here in the West.....

 

[the caracal kid]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will be mostly Muslim.

Jay, that used to not be so, with FDR, Truman, JFK, RFK,
LBJ, Hubert Humphrey, Scoop Jackson, Sam Nunn (one of the greatest anti nuclear proliferation experts) and
Pat Moynihan (god bless his soul ---one of the greatest
senators in modern times) -----all were cold war warriors.

Things are sure different these days though, wouldn't you say?


I like Ann...she's a breath of fresh American air. Clearly she should run for President. (The middle East thinks were on their backs now...wait till Ann has her way with them.)

why not?

there is currently a very low standard for holding that office so might as well go for the bottom!

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will be mostly Muslim.

why not?

there is currently a very low standard for holding that office so might as well go for the bottom!

I said Ann should run....not you. :wink:

 

[Jersay]

Fine I will.

 

[the caracal kid]

Witty Jay,

Ann running would make all those anxious to see the collapse of the US very happy.

Since it is only a matter of time, perhaps you are a closet anti-capitalist at heart and want to expidite the end of America. Either that or you are....

 

[Jay]

Nope, I don't believe America is going to collapse any time soon...it just isn't in the cards.

I realize liberals want that, but they will collapse long before America will.....thats what the second amendment of for.

Now if you said Canada is going to collapse, that I would believe, because the left is working hard to bring it down as current federalism shows us.

 

[the caracal kid]

the biggest threats to the collapse of canada have come from Mulroney and the proposed Harper ideeaology.

The "right" as you like to call it, rots the foundation out while pointing fingers and liberally tossing around the word "liberal". It is hilarious to watch.

 

[FiveParadox]

Jay, your conspiracy theories are interesting; but I doubt that any party in Ottawa is attempting to bring down its own endeavours; except for, perhaps, the orchestration of a defeat of the Government of Canada, but that is something else entirely — parliamentary maneuvering, rather than any widescale implications.

I do not think that left-wing strategies, in particular in Canada, are going to meet their sudden demise. I would assert that both the Liberal Party of Canada and the New Democratic Party of Canada have bright futures ahead of them; the former is going to return to power at some point in the not-too-distant future, in my opinion, and the latter is going to have a chance to govern within decades, I would think.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will be mostly Muslim.

the biggest threats to the collapse of canada have come from Mulroney and the proposed Harper ideeaology.

The "right" as you like to call it, rots the foundation out while pointing fingers and liberally tossing around the word "liberal". It is hilarious to watch.

No it isn't. The Liberals have governed this country for years and years and years. It is their version of federalism that is tearing the provinces away. Good try though (well kinda good).

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: France in 2040 will be mostly Muslim.

Jay, your conspiracy theories are interesting;

It isn't a conspiracy theory...it is an observation. Believe me I don't trust the left in this country is capable of pulling off a plan like that. I think that they just don't have any idea what their policies do. Basically they want to centralize powers where they weren’t meant to be centralized by the feds.

Do you have any idea what Quebec separation is about?

 

[the caracal kid]

the rot comes from the bottom, not the top.

like i pointed out already, you are looking in the wrong location for the "rot" that would undermine canada. It is occuring beneath your eyes yet you are blind to it.

The west will fall, but not for why you think.

 

[FiveParadox]

The endeavours of certain citizens of Québec to separate from Canada is based on an effort to recognize their distinct society — I don't think that anyone in Québec wishes to separate entirely from Canada, which can be seen by the comments of Gilles Duceppe in relation to a "sovereign Québec in an economic partnership with Canada" — is he referring to federal transfer payments? lol