France Elections

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Confused picture as projections come in​

Exit polls have just been made available and they all give different numbers - to the point we cannot confidently say which party has come out on top.

France Télévisions gives the National Rally between 120 and 160 seats - if that's correct then this is a surprise defeat for the RN, which would have come third.

Two other polls, including France's biggest private channel TF1 and from RTL/M6 suggest RN has come second. One other projection gives RN the biggest number of seats, but that may be an outlier.

However, what is clear is that France is heading for a hung parliament with no single bloc controlling a majority. The picture will become clearer in the next few hours as actual results come trickling in - we will bring you those as we get them.

Far right's historic moment may have to wait

Marine Le Pen and Jordan Bardella, the two big faces of the National Rally, were hoping for a dramatic and historic victory.

The projections we've just had from the big French broadcasters all suggests not only that their hopes have been dashed.

They all indicate that the left-wing New Popular Front, cobbled together hastily after President Macron called this election, may actually have won the race.

It wouldn't mean they could form any kind of government, because a hung parliament would be the result.

But if the radical-left France Unbowed and their allies in the Greens, Socialists and Communists really have won, it's a big dent in the expectations of the far right.

Mélenchon: 'The president has to admit defeat'​

Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the leader of the radical left France Unbowed party, the largest in the left-wing coalition New Popular Front (NFP), has been addressing his supporters, claiming victory for his bloc.

He says: "The far right is far from a majority tonight... The election result is the outcome of a magnificent mobilisation effort."

"The president has to bow and admit this is a defeat... the prime minister needs to leave," he says.

The president has the power and the duty to call the NFP to govern," he adds to applause.

"The NFP is ready," he adds.

 

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The French are electing 577 MPs of the 17th National Assembly of the French Fifth Republic.
 

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France Télévisions gives the National Rally between 120 and 160 seats - Compare that to Britain where Reform UK got just 5 seats. The French system gives seats according to the proportion of votes they got. It's the system we need in Britain.

They all indicate that the left-wing New Popular Front, cobbled together hastily after President Macron called this election, may actually have won the race: Party just weeks old have won. Of course, the immigrants have voted them in.
 

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France Télévisions gives the National Rally between 120 and 160 seats - Compare that to Britain where Reform UK got just 5 seats. The French system gives seats according to the proportion of votes they got. It's the system we need in Britain.

They all indicate that the left-wing New Popular Front, cobbled together hastily after President Macron called this election, may actually have won the race: Party just weeks old have won. Of course, the immigrants have voted them in.
Unless your team gets fewer votes than the other team, but ends up in the majority.
 

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You should see the scenes over there in Paris right now. The Left are about to get into power like next door in Britain (albeit in parliament as itys not a Presidential election). It's a defeat for centrist President Macron. The scenes are like something from the French Revolution. Vast crowds and Tricolours adorning monuments and fountains.
 

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France Télévisions gives the National Rally between 120 and 160 seats - Compare that to Britain where Reform UK got just 5 seats. The French system gives seats according to the proportion of votes they got. It's the system we need in Britain
No yu don't I guarantees lefty wins.
 

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No yu don't I guarantees lefty wins.

I'm saying the French system is fairer. Their equivalent of Reform UK has won between 120 and 150 seats. Reform UK got 5 seats but would have won nearly 100 seats has we got the French voting system.
 

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A huge Tricolour on a statue in Paris is reading: "La France est Tissu de Migration" (France is a fabric of migration").

It's always the Left on the streets causing trouble.
 
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I don't know how the French system works, but we voted down PR in BC twice. Mostly because the system we got to vote on gave seats to "the Party", not individual candidates. Not only would it eliminate independents, it removed local representation.
 

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I don't know how the French system works, but we voted down PR in BC twice. Mostly because the system we got to vote on gave seats to "the Party", not individual candidates. Not only would it eliminate independents, it removed local representation.

In the system we have the Liberal Democrats got 72 seats and Reform UK got 5 seats, yet Reform got more votes. Doesn't seem right to me.

On the Continent and even in the Scottish Parliament and Welsh and London Assemblies they have PR. Why don't we have it in General Elections. Because the Big Two - Conservatives and Labour - know it favours them even though it's so unfair so they aren't going to change it. That's why Reform UK are prepared to works with the Liberal Democrats and the Greens to change that.
 

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Breaking News: France has fallen as Far Left take control of Parliament

Macron's Parliament grouping is destroyed

Equivalent in Britain of Corbyn/Islamists taking power

 

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National Rally president Jordan Bardella, 28 (Le Pen is the party's Parliamentary leader), speaking in Paris, tonight slammed the Left-Wing "alliance of dishonour".

This young man is a great patriot of his country. May they continue the fight against evil.

 
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For anyone who doesn't quite know what's going on in France, the BBC explains it.

 

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French left on course to defeat “far” right in election upset…
An alliance of French left-wing parties was on course Sunday to become the biggest parliamentary bloc by beating the “far” right and President Emmanuel Macron's coalition, according to surprise projected results.

The alliance of “Not far” left-wing parties consist of the the previously deeply-divided Socialists, Greens, Communists and the hard-left (but not “far”) France Unbowed together in one camp called the The New Popular Front (NFP)…but they’re definitely not “far” left but hard-left?
So the Socialists, Communists, Greens, and the ‘hard-left’ aren’t “far” anything like the “far” Right are….so Phew!! Close Call!!

Nevertheless, veteran presidential candidate Marine Le Pen's “far”-right National Rally (RN) led the race after the June 30 first round of voting, with opinion polls predicting that she would lead the biggest party in parliament after Sunday's run-off.

Some 30,000 police were deployed to keep order, and many voters expressed fears that rioting could erupt in some cities after the results were announced.

Turnout was nevertheless high, with left-wing and centrist candidates urging supporters to defend democratic values and the rule of law -- while the “far” right scented a chance to upend the established order, etc…
 

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French left on course to defeat “far” right in election upset…
An alliance of French left-wing parties was on course Sunday to become the biggest parliamentary bloc by beating the “far” right and President Emmanuel Macron's coalition, according to surprise projected results.

The alliance of “Not far” left-wing parties consist of the the previously deeply-divided Socialists, Greens, Communists and the hard-left (but not “far”) France Unbowed together in one camp called the The New Popular Front (NFP)…but they’re definitely not “far” left but hard-left?
So the Socialists, Communists, Greens, and the ‘hard-left’ aren’t “far” anything like the “far” Right are….so Phew!! Close Call!!

Nevertheless, veteran presidential candidate Marine Le Pen's “far”-right National Rally (RN) led the race after the June 30 first round of voting, with opinion polls predicting that she would lead the biggest party in parliament after Sunday's run-off.

Some 30,000 police were deployed to keep order, and many voters expressed fears that rioting could erupt in some cities after the results were announced.

Turnout was nevertheless high, with left-wing and centrist candidates urging supporters to defend democratic values and the rule of law -- while the “far” right scented a chance to upend the established order, etc…

You know things are going downhill in an election when you have women with pink hair, women with burkas and suspicious-looking Nigerians celebrating in the streets.
 
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