For Bush, it's from bad to worse

[Nascar_James]

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Out of jail? For what? Going after the terrorists?

For illegally invading another country, for killing countles Iraqi civillians, for commiting election fraud, the list goes on and on and on.

Andygal, you obviously have no idea as to what you're talking about.

Illegally invading a country? Saddam was mixed up in terrorism himself. He has paid the familes of suicide Palestinian bombers tens of thousands of dollars for each family. There is no room for anyone around the globe who supports or harbors terrorists.

Killing countless Iraqi civillians? What about the victims of 9/11? You forgot about those? In a war we will unfortunately always have civilian casualties. It has been this way in every war. It can't be helped.

Election fraud? Bush whipped Kerry in the last election. He won a great majority of the 50 states. Where is the fraud? More of your far far left lies?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

NJ:

, we are still at war.

Of course ya are..........BECAUSE , BEING THE A**HOLE WARMONGERS YOU ARE ..........YOU STARTED THE FECKING WAR.

Sorry, on that basis , "being at war" does not cut it.". You authored it, so not a viable excuse......for more of this neocon malignancy. And MALIGNANCY it is. One has to only read posts like yours , to realize how deep it has metastasized too.

 

[peapod]

question????? Could you please explain to me why the United states government supports the dictator of Uzbekistan. Please show us how this is any different from Iraq. You are a hypocrite.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

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Out of jail? For what? Going after the terrorists?

For illegally invading another country, for killing countles Iraqi civillians, for commiting election fraud, the list goes on and on and on.

Andygal, you obviously have no idea as to what you're talking about.

Illegally invading a country? Saddam was mixed up in terrorism himself. He has paid the familes of suicide Palestinian bombers tens of thousands of dollars for each family. There is no room for anyone around the globe who supports or harbors terrorists.

Killing countless Iraqi civillians? What about the victims of 9/11? You forgot about those? In a war we will unfortunately always have civilian casualties. It has been this way in every war. It can't be helped.

Election fraud? Bush whipped Kerry in the last election. He won a great majority of the 50 states. Where is the fraud? More of your far far left lies?

sorry james..........that is just the same old tiresome song and dance we all have been hearing from the retarded neocons for months now.

Try to THINK and offer up something new and creative..


and it might be an idea to "hear" what those "lefties" have to say....... and stop the neocon knee jerk reaction of screeming "LEFTIES"......as if they have some serious allergy to them. Quite pitiful & ANAL RETENTIVE.

It is the NEO cons that have gone way overboard in just about everything.......and cannot therefore be addressed as "conservative".........which for the most part is usually rational. Neoconship is irrational.------as is any Xtreme.

 

[peapod]

I think its time we did a little comparsion between Uzbekistan and Iraq. I think I will start a thread...

 

[Nascar_James]

NJ:

, we are still at war.

Of course ya are..........BECAUSE , BEING THE A**HOLE WARMONGERS YOU ARE ..........YOU STARTED THE FECKING WAR.

NO WE DIDN"T!!!

How many times do I need to re-iterate myself?

The Terrorists started the war on 9/11. They attacked us and now we are attacking them. Since they attacked us first, are you saying we should just back away? Hah, might as well let them take the pants off of your back. They sure as hell will not get mine!

 

[Nascar_James]

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Out of jail? For what? Going after the terrorists?

For illegally invading another country, for killing countles Iraqi civillians, for commiting election fraud, the list goes on and on and on.

Andygal, you obviously have no idea as to what you're talking about.

Illegally invading a country? Saddam was mixed up in terrorism himself. He has paid the familes of suicide Palestinian bombers tens of thousands of dollars for each family. There is no room for anyone around the globe who supports or harbors terrorists.

Killing countless Iraqi civillians? What about the victims of 9/11? You forgot about those? In a war we will unfortunately always have civilian casualties. It has been this way in every war. It can't be helped.

Election fraud? Bush whipped Kerry in the last election. He won a great majority of the 50 states. Where is the fraud? More of your far far left lies?

sorry james..........that is just the same old tiresome song and dance we all have been hearing from the retarded neocons for months now.

Try to THINK and offer up something new and creative..


and it might be an idea to "hear" what those "lefties" have to say....... and stop the neocon knee jerk reaction of screeming "LEFTIES"......as if they have some serious allergy to them. Quite pitiful & ANAL RETENTIVE.

It is the NEO cons that have gone way overboard in just about everything.......and cannot therefore be addressed as "conservative".........which for the most part is usually rational. Neoconship is irrational.------as is any Xtreme.

All right Ocean, we use strategy and think. And just how pray tell do we eliminate the terrorists, on a war they started on 9/11? Do we nag them to death?

I'm open for suggestions...

 

[no1important]

RE: For Bush, it's from b

Actually I hate and dislike what the terrorists did on 9/11 but the USG throughout the years started this war much earlier by constant meddling in affairs where they have no right meddling.

Iraq had no ties to 9/11 and the illegal war there just proved how bush is just a big a terrorist as the ones he accusses.

 

[Kellen]

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Out of jail? For what? Going after the terrorists?

For illegally invading another country, for killing countles Iraqi civillians, for commiting election fraud, the list goes on and on and on.

Andygal, you obviously have no idea as to what you're talking about.

Illegally invading a country? Saddam was mixed up in terrorism himself. He has paid the familes of suicide Palestinian bombers tens of thousands of dollars for each family. There is no room for anyone around the globe who supports or harbors terrorists.

Killing countless Iraqi civillians? What about the victims of 9/11? You forgot about those? In a war we will unfortunately always have civilian casualties. It has been this way in every war. It can't be helped.

Election fraud? Bush whipped Kerry in the last election. He won a great majority of the 50 states. Where is the fraud? More of your far far left lies?

So Saddam supported the families of Palestinian bombers? That was not the reason that Bush gave for invading Iraq so that's completely irrelevant. Even if that's true the Palestinian suicide bombers are no "immediate threat to the U.S" so that doesn't even come close to being a reason for the invasion of Iraq, it's simply a weak effort to try and connect Saddam to 911.

The Terrorists started the war in Iraq? Saddam was not involved in any way with the 911 crew and did not support them financially either. This "war on terrorism" should've ended with the Taliban.

 

[Kellen]

Re: RE: For Bush, it's from b

Actually I condone what the terrorists did on 9/11 but the USG throughout the years started this war much earlier by constant meddling in affairs where they have no right meddling.

Iraq had no ties to 9/11 and the illegal war there just proved how bush is just a big a terrorist as the ones he accusses.

Umm, you approve of what the terrorists did on 911 or is that just a typo?

 

[#juan]

nascar

There is an outside chance that 9/11 was orchestrated by insiders. If not, 9/11 was the result of stupid, inconsistant, or non-existant foreign policy. The U.S. have sunk billions of dollars a year into Isreal and condoned Isreal's pre-emptive land grab wars to the point where there literally isn't any Palestine left. Palestinians weren't terrorists for no reason. Palestinians lived on that land for over 1200 years and now they are homeless.

Something like 3200 people were killed on 9/11. Americans killed as many civilians in Afghanistan by bombing. I have a good idea how many Iraqi civilians have been killed. Where is the justification for that continued war. Do you know how many U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq war # 2? I don't think you do. I'll give you a hint. The number is a hell of a lot more than the Pentagon is saying.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

NJ:

, we are still at war.

Of course ya are..........BECAUSE , BEING THE A**HOLE WARMONGERS YOU ARE ..........YOU STARTED THE FECKING WAR.

NO WE DIDN"T!!!

How many times do I need to re-iterate myself?

The Terrorists started the war on 9/11. They attacked us and now we are attacking them. Since they attacked us first, are you saying we should just back away? Hah, might as well let them take the pants off of your back. They sure as hell will not get mine!

sadly , very sadly.......james..... you still don't get it. (nothing personal). 9-11 was a TERRORIST ATTACK. NOT A FECKING WAR. OBL did NOT invade America and bomb the crap out of it. Can't you neo cons DIFFERENTIATE between WAR and a terrorist attack. What HItler did was invade and war. What bush did is INVADE AND WAR (MILITARILY). what the terrorist did is a terrorist act ........and that is where the neocons have it all ass backwards!! Why??? Because their moron leader decided to give OBL and his ilk the vernacular they wanted....... the moron declared "war on terrorism".........which is an oxymoron at the best of times. Just because the a&&hole OBL and their ilk used the terms "holy "war"..........does not imply a military war which is how the US interprets things. For all ya know......OBL and his ilk.......are speaking metaphorically...........and ya all fell for it like crap from a tall goose. Talk about emotional, irrational knee jerk reactions. But it gets worse...

9-11 happened. ( and NO .....we don't know all the important facts ........because the USregime does not believe in keeping their population INFORMED .... (dumbing down process) Bushlet and his goons saw an opportunity of a life time...... Invade the middle east.......do a seroious power grab. secure the ME oil.....and postion their fat asses where they don't belong..........so what happens. Moron Inc.....makes up a lie......which has to have a "threat". The population , still reeling from the 9-11 event....... buy into the threat.......as fear mongering is the favored tactic of the bushinc's .......and off bush goes to war......first Afganistan......which was almost sensible.....if one pushed it. ......and feeling the glow of military power .......(what a high War and military action gives those warmongers ...) they decide ....to move on something they had in mind since they moved into the power halls of washington. Invade Iraq. All the while .......the population's mind is being manipulated like it was toffee.

but dang........this has been discussed and discussed and yet one hears the same crap about 9-11 being an act of 'war';......ergo justifying two wars and maybe more. Bush made it an "act of war".......so he could realize his own ambitions........one being Iraq......and he wanted Iraq since BEFORE he took office. This has been documented........but don't expect to hear it in mainstream media.

You sure did not see Spain go off half cocked into battle , after their 3-11. London does not look like its going to invade someone just because of their TERRORIST ATTACK. Look at other nations that have had terrorist incidents. They are dealing with it like a terrorist issue......and not playing their cards for all to see.

 

[Nascar_James]

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Out of jail? For what? Going after the terrorists?

For illegally invading another country, for killing countles Iraqi civillians, for commiting election fraud, the list goes on and on and on.

Andygal, you obviously have no idea as to what you're talking about.

Illegally invading a country? Saddam was mixed up in terrorism himself. He has paid the familes of suicide Palestinian bombers tens of thousands of dollars for each family. There is no room for anyone around the globe who supports or harbors terrorists.

Killing countless Iraqi civillians? What about the victims of 9/11? You forgot about those? In a war we will unfortunately always have civilian casualties. It has been this way in every war. It can't be helped.

Election fraud? Bush whipped Kerry in the last election. He won a great majority of the 50 states. Where is the fraud? More of your far far left lies?

So Saddam supported the families of Palestinian bombers? That was not the reason that Bush gave for invading Iraq so that's completely irrelevant. Even if that's true the Palestinian suicide bombers are no "immediate threat to the U.S" so that doesn't even come close to being a reason for the invasion of Iraq, it's simply a weak effort to try and connect Saddam to 911.

The Terrorists started the war in Iraq? Saddam was not involved in any way with the 911 crew and did not support them financially either. This "war on terrorism" shouldv'e ended with the Taliban.

It's been known that Al Zarqawi established an Al Qaeda group in Iraq in May 2002. This was before the President launched his retaliation against Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam was harboring the Al Qaeda terrorists and he got what was coming to him. We need to maintain ZERO tolerance for terrorists around the globe.

"Zarqawi's activities were not simply confined to a small corner of northeast Iraq. He traveled to Baghdad in May of 2002 for medical treatment, staying in the capital of Iraq for two months while he recuperated to fight another day. During his stay, nearly two dozen extremists converged on Baghdad and established a base of operations there. These al-Qaida affiliates based in Baghdad coordinated the movement of people, money and supplies into and throughout Iraq for his network."

Read on ...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/zarqawi.htm

 

[Nascar_James]

nascar

There is an outside chance that 9/11 was orchestrated by insiders. If not, 9/11 was the result of stupid, inconsistant, or non-existant foreign policy. The U.S. have sunk billions of dollars a year into Isreal and condoned Isreal's pre-emptive land grab wars to the point where there literally isn't any Palestine left. Palestinians weren't terrorists for no reason. Palestinians lived on that land for over 1200 years and now they are homeless.

Something like 3200 people were killed on 9/11. Americans killed as many civilians in Afghanistan by bombing. I have a good idea how many Iraqi civilians have been killed. Where is the justification for that continued war. Do you know how many U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq war # 2? I don't think you do. I'll give you a hint. The number is a hell of a lot more than the Pentagon is saying.

I repeat Juan, The terrorists started the war, and unless they surrender, we will continue fighting them. We will not cave in to the terrorists.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

It's been known that Al Zarqawi established an Al Qaeda group in Iraq in May 2002. This was before the President launched his retaliation against Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam was harboring the Al Qaeda terrorists and he got what was coming to him. We need to maintain ZERO tolerance for terrorists around the globe.

where do you get this stuff from??? The Iraq invasion was NOT about terrorism !! It was clearly defined with such absoluteness and certainty..... as a WMD issue. (even tho the inspectors were working and finding nada. ........and under much duress from the bushregime.) Hell, bush was in such a fecking hurry to INVADE And start KILLLING .........he aborted the inspectors and gave "his"military the go ahead. While the world watched in fecking shock. (except for the sleazeballs that went along with it for a while-----the subject of bush cons ,manipulation and most likely bribes.)

REMEMBER ????? IRAQ........bush's reason to invade .....repeated ad nauseum as he beat those war drums...... was WMD that scared (supposedly) the pee out of bush. THe fact that he LIED makes this a historical disaster......of a magnitude to be determined.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

The terrorists started the war, and unless they surrender, we will continue fighting them. We will not cave in to the terrorists.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :dontknow:

 

[Nascar_James]

It's been known that Al Zarqawi established an Al Qaeda group in Iraq in May 2002. This was before the President launched his retaliation against Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam was harboring the Al Qaeda terrorists and he got what was coming to him. We need to maintain ZERO tolerance for terrorists around the globe.

where do you get this stuff from??? The Iraq invasion was NOT about terrorism !! It was clearly defined with such absoluteness and certainty..... as a WMD issue. (even tho the inspectors were working and finding nada. ........and under much duress from the bushregime.)

REMEMBER ????? IRAQ........bush's reason to invade .....repeated ad nauseum as he beat those war drums...... was WMD that scared (supposedly) the pee out of bush. THe fact that he LIED makes this a historical disaster......of a magnitude to be determined.

Ocean, do you know what a crisis we would have if terrorists ever got their hands on WMD or nuclear weapons? Any risk of WMD at the hands of Saddam where he may pass them on to his new found friends was not worth taking. He should have learnt not to associate with terrosists. He brought this on himself.

 

[Nascar_James]

The terrorists started the war, and unless they surrender, we will continue fighting them. We will not cave in to the terrorists.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :dontknow:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

It's been known that Al Zarqawi established an Al Qaeda group in Iraq in May 2002. This was before the President launched his retaliation against Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam was harboring the Al Qaeda terrorists and he got what was coming to him. We need to maintain ZERO tolerance for terrorists around the globe.

where do you get this stuff from??? The Iraq invasion was NOT about terrorism !! It was clearly defined with such absoluteness and certainty..... as a WMD issue. (even tho the inspectors were working and finding nada. ........and under much duress from the bushregime.)

REMEMBER ????? IRAQ........bush's reason to invade .....repeated ad nauseum as he beat those war drums...... was WMD that scared (supposedly) the pee out of bush. THe fact that he LIED makes this a historical disaster......of a magnitude to be determined.

Ocean, do you know what a crisis we would have if terrorists ever got their hands on WMD or nuclear weapons? Any risk of WMD at the hands of Saddam where he may pass them on to his new found friends was not worth taking. He should have learnt not to associate with terrosists. He brought this on himself.

james, james , james........( sigh)

SH did NOT have WMD..... ( it was a big fecking LIE that bush told.........because he knew he could not get away with invading Iraq ......."pre-emptively" if he did not present a "frightening" threat to the population. ..........and ya all bought into it .

the INVASION is what invited TERRORISM into Iraq. After all that bombing, US style, terrorist style........one would thing they would have triggered off those massive stockpiles of WMD by now , don't cha???

IF SH did have serious WMD.........would bet bush would NOT have been so gung ho to invade. It would have been far too risky. He would have just nagged the crap out of them like he is doing with N.Korea etc.

Sorry james........but it seems like you bought the whole package that a psychologically disordered president sold ya. People WANT to believe in their leaders.(not a bad thing)........but they must not let this WANT color the facts as they unfold...and present themselves.


oh sh*t........and now you are providing graphics of more bush propaganda. :roll:

..............

 

[Kellen]

It's been known that Al Zarqawi established an Al Qaeda group in Iraq in May 2002. This was before the President launched his retaliation against Al qaeda and Saddam. Saddam was harboring the Al Qaeda terrorists and he got what was coming to him. We need to maintain ZERO tolerance for terrorists around the globe.

where do you get this stuff from??? The Iraq invasion was NOT about terrorism !! It was clearly defined with such absoluteness and certainty..... as a WMD issue. (even tho the inspectors were working and finding nada. ........and under much duress from the bushregime.)

REMEMBER ????? IRAQ........bush's reason to invade .....repeated ad nauseum as he beat those war drums...... was WMD that scared (supposedly) the pee out of bush. THe fact that he LIED makes this a historical disaster......of a magnitude to be determined.

Ocean, do you know what a crisis we would have if terrorists ever got their hands on WMD or nuclear weapons? Any risk of WMD at the hands of Saddam where he may pass them on to his new found friends was not worth taking. He should have learnt not to associate with terrosists. He brought this on himself.

Lol, that's the thing, if a country has WMDs wouldn't you NOT want to invade them? You didn't see the U.S trying to invade the USSR, or North Korea for that matter.