Fmr President G.H.W. Bush ....RIP

[MHz]

You use a thread made for honest tribute to a fine man and leader to spew your political hatred.

You and MHz. Birds of a feather.

What makes you think this is the only place I post on?? There are more asshole here, that is the only thing special about this site.

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He couldn't hear what I was saying when he was part of the living, I doubt the odds have improved now the gap between us wider than ever.
That being said.
Ge:2:7:
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.
Ec:3:20:
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.
Ec:12:7:
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.
Ec:12:1-3:
Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth,
while the evil days come not,
nor the years draw nigh,
when thou shalt say,
I have no pleasure in them;
While the sun,
or the light,
or the moon,
or the stars,
be not darkened,
nor the clouds return after the rain:
In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble,
and the strong men shall bow themselves,
and the grinders cease because they are few,
and those that look out of the windows be darkened,
Job:14:12-17:
So man lieth down,
and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time,
and remember me!
If a man die,
shall he live again?
all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
Thou shalt call,
and I will answer thee:
thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands. F
or now thou numberest my steps:
dost thou not watch over my sin?
My transgression is sealed up in a bag,
and thou sewest up mine iniquity.
Isa:65:11-19:
But ye are they that forsake the LORD,
that forget my holy mountain,
that prepare a table for that troop,
and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth;
and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth;
because the former troubles are forgotten,
and because they are hid from mine eyes.
For,
behold,
I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.
But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create:
for,
behold,
I create Jerusalem a rejoicing,
and her people a joy.
And I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
and joy in my people:
and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her,
nor the voice of crying.
Re:21:1-8:
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:
for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;
and there was no more sea.
And I John saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem,
coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men,
and he will dwell with them,
and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them,
and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.
And he that sat upon the throne said,
Behold,
I make all things new.
And he said unto me,
Write:
for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me,
It is done.
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end.
I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son.
But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,
and murderers,
and whoremongers,
and sorcerers,
and idolaters,
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.
Isa:66:22:
For as the new heavens and the new earth,
which I will make,
shall remain before me,
saith the LORD,
so shall your seed and your name remain.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Take your pills.

 

[MHz]

Once you are a burning bush you can give me advice.

Light??


How does it make a person feel when they know they have to be in the grave before anybody has anything good to say about them?? Since it applies to all traitors to their own people feel free to include yourself.

Burning Bridges

 

[spaminator]

 

[coldstream]

It's a cute picture. Anyone who likes dogs and whom dogs like can't be all bad.

Despite all the glowing tributes to GHWB on the previously unsympathetic liberal media, usually to note the difference between the gentleman President and Donald Trump, there was a lot NOT to like about Bush Sr..

He was involved with all kinds of creepy intrigues at the CIA and narco financed operations against leftist regimes in Latin America as VP. It's difficult to see anything really distinguished about his Presidency. He was ousted by a wallowing economy and flailing foreign military escapades which produced the first nationalist and populist reaction in Ross Perot in 92; primarily against his introduction of NAFTA. He could be vicious in political tactics; far more cunning, ruthless and underhanded than Trump ever was. That said he never seemed genuine to electorates; never doubled up on election wins.

He was a pure Ivy League, Brahmin, NeoCon, Pax Americana political operative. He never stepped outside the lines of the best interests of his class. He was a country club President who never identified with the middle and working class. He always seemed more style than substance.

He was like brackish water that conformed to any political container he was put in. Never showed any sense of independence, moral imperative, from the most conventional protocols of his party; a consummate insider. Hence the charge of lacking 'vision' and being a 'wimp'. Someone with a malleable character and no solid identity.

He certainly was not much worse than the other mediocrities who've sat in the Oval Office in the last 50 years. And he was a lot better than Bush Jr. who ran one of the most catastrophic administrations in U.S. history.

However Solly thought he was a good guy.. So RiP.

 

[coldstream]

It was a nice service as these things go.

These things become generational milestones, and this to one of the last of what has become known as, arguably, 'The Greatest Generation'. I think all gens have their challenges and greatness; but the Great Depression and WW2 produced more than their share. I'll hand it to GWHB that he didn't weaponize his funeral like John McCain did so he bowed out with more grace.

I doubt Trump will receive such a regal establishment society sendoff. But I consider him a far more revolutionary and significant President than either Bush sr. or jr. will ever be. In my previous post i called GWB's Presidency one of the most catastrophic in American history and certainly it was. That's a little unfair in that he was in the nest when the raptors loosed by reckless economic and foreign policies of decades came back to roost while he was in office. But still he was particularly inept in managing the terrorist and financial crises and in fact magnified their effect.

I really don't know why Mulroney showed up as a eulogist. He was front and centre at Reagan's funeral and library inauguration as well. He is ever the obedient Neocon American quisling, the loyal subordinate of Pax Americana.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm sure Prince Phillip was very unhappy he couldn't be there for a fellow WWII Naval officer.

The only current head of state/government there (besides Trump) was Merkel. Which was singularly appropriate. If she'd been invited to speak, she could have said it all with "I was an East German. Now I'm a German. George H.W. Bush is why."

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I really don't know why Mulroney showed up as a eulogist. He was front and centre at Reagan's funeral and library inauguration as well. He is ever the obedient Neocon American quisling, the loyal subordinate of Pax Americana.

It's OK, we don't require your love nor loyalty. Only your obedience.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I doubt Trump will receive such a regal establishment society sendoff.

Probably more like a Mob funeral.

But I consider him a far more revolutionary and significant President than either Bush sr. or jr. will ever be.

He's neither, unless you distort the terms far beyond all recognition.

In my previous post i called GWB's Presidency one of the most catastrophic in American history and certainly it was.

That you hate the Americans with Disabilities Act, the fall of the Soviet Union, the ouster of Iraq from Kuwait, the deposition and arrest of Manuel Noriega, NAFTA, and noble if unsuccessful balanced budget legislation comes as no surprise.

 

[Walter]

Very well programmed funeral, beautiful music, bravely read scripture, and thoughtful eulogies.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Very well programmed funeral, beautiful music, bravely read scripture, and thoughtful eulogies.

Sorry it wasn't to your taste. That's OK, Tiny will have another rally soon.

 

[Soldier]

Bush was not a good man.
He was reponsible for creating Bush junior. The mass murderer.
And being the head of the CIA is the closest you can get to being equal to Satan.
Good Riddance.

A sorrow to where RIPPED. But since Billy Clinton and the son G W Bush not more best presidency in U.S. historics. Roosevelt isn't. Truman isn't. Nixon isn't. Reagan isn't. Obama isn't. Eisenhower is with DJ Trump 3rd best presidency all historics. Carter is among the dead former presidency of old time war but I never liked Roosevelt even he promise the US victim versus Germany and he did it but he died before end of Japan invasion.

 

[coldstream]

That you hate the Americans with Disabilities Act, the fall of the Soviet Union, the ouster of Iraq from Kuwait, the deposition and arrest of Manuel Noriega, NAFTA, and noble if unsuccessful balanced budget legislation comes as no surprise.

I suppose he had some successes. I view him more in terms the CIA Operation Condor; Iran Contra guns and drugs; globalization; NAFTA has been an absolute disaster (although it was initiated by Reagan and fully implemented by Clinton); all those stacks of civilian bodies that had to be clambered over to get to Noriega, admittedly, a punk dictator.

The Soviet Union collapsed of its own accord through loss of all economic and ideological integrity & vitality. Reagan and Bush were spectators not instigators of such. I still remember the Highway of Death where a beaten and retreating Iraqi Army was cutoff and slaughtered as an example for others. Maybe not Bush's direct order but on his Watch.

I never figured out George H.W. Bush. He was fixed somewhere between the Calvinist libertarian ethic of Ronald Reagan, and, old style hierarchical, dirigiste, conservative Catholicism. He was a true Establishment Episcopalian I guess. He was pro abortion and population control but appointed the most reliable social conservative to the USSC in Clarence Thomas as well as the notoriously unreliable David Souter.

His management of the economy seemed a step up from the Trickledown Reaganomics; notably by imposing taxes on the rich. But a balanced budget is a NeoCon idol (and a corollary of monetarism) that would be a disaster in a faltering economy and locking it in by Constitution Amendment was potentially catastrophic. It was the legacy of NeoCon/Lib Free Trade, laissez-faire, monetarist, privatized, deregulated economic principles that drove him from office but which didn't start with him and only got worse after he left under the leadership of both parties.

I honestly don't think he had solid policy beliefs of any sort. He just kind of floated in the political zeitgeist of the Republican Party. He was a consummate administrator and not a visionary. Seems to me I remember him supporting outlawing flag burning in the Constitution as well (even though burning a flag is the prescribed method of disposing of a worn out flag according to the Boy Scouts. Hence he was for outlawing political expression).

He seemed like a nice enough guy, unless, you got in the way of something he wanted. Willie Horton, the flag, oil.. then could play rougher and dirtier rather than kinder and gentler. It's likely unfair to judge him outside the economic and cultural paradigm of the last 50 years. He part of a lineage, certainly not to blame, but someone who offered nothing different.

 

[Walter]

Navy Performs Largest-Ever 21 Aircraft Missing Man Formation Flyover At Bush Funeral
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ng_man_formation_flyover_at_bush_funeral.html

Impressive.

 

[spaminator]

S2018 E12081812/08/18
Remembering George H.W. Bush
http://nbc.com/dateline/video/remembering-george-hw-bush/3841700

 

[Ron in Regina]

Tell you what, RCS. Here's a relatively little-known fact about Bush.

On the mission where he was shot down, he was flying a three-man torpedo bomber. His target was a radio tower on a Japanese-held island in the Pacific, heavily defended. His plane was hit as they went in, and shot up bad, he finished the run and took out the tower before he ordered his men to bail.

That's balls.