Fido vs. Telus/Clearnet

[kalok]

RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

It's probably your V551 defective, coz i know there is some sort of issues with the V551.

Just to make sure you have the right volume to the max, you have to press the side up key during conversation.

If that still doesnt' work, go to see your local dealer and have them send it back to repair.

kalok~

 

[kalok]

RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

It's probably your V551 defective, coz i know there is some sort of issues with the V551.

Just to make sure you have the right volume to the max, you have to press the side up key during conversation.

If that still doesnt' work, go to see your local dealer and have them send it back to repair.

kalok~

 

[mustangmoto]

I found someone that can unlock any Rogers/fido gsm phones
he is a devry student in software development and know what he is doing..
call james at ********** he can help out

 

[kalok]

I used to have a really crappy C350 but upgraded to a V551 a few months ago. Its a pretty decent phone (i prefer the 6190) but the rate plan is awesome, for $20 i get 250 anytime minutes + ultd evening/weekend calling from 6 pm to 8 am. if i was to make a comparison between the LG 6190 and the MOTO V551 I'd say the moto has more stuff (videofone, bluetooth etc.) but the fastap is pretty swell for actual talking, the V551 has a really low volume even at max and the speakerfone is just not loud enough, also the keyboard has a plasticky feel to it as if it is constructed from poor materials, whereas the LG 6190 has a really good speakerphone, volume is great overall and the screen has better resolution (262 k vs 65 k)

So it it fixed?

kalok~

 

[nitzomoe]

yes, i had to increase it during the conversation, volume is significantly better, equivalent to the 6190. Too many concerts have ruined my hearing considerably. the bluetooth is pretty decent on it (using it for connection to PC n mobile fone tools)

thx kalok

 

[kalok]

yes, i had to increase it during the conversation, volume is significantly better, equivalent to the 6190. Too many concerts have ruined my hearing considerably. the bluetooth is pretty decent on it (using it for connection to PC n mobile fone tools)

thx kalok

Great!
NP.

kalok~

 

[Fido subscriber]

Fido has absolutely the worst customer service I have ever encountered. They are polite but completely ineffective - I cannot count the number of hours I have wasted on the phone with them trying to straighten out bills they have overcharged me on and how many times they have promised to call me back to help and they have just left me hanging. Dealing with them is incredibly frustrating! After my contract is over, I am leaving!

 

[voodoofish]

Re: RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

Correct. The rate plan is the problem not the phone. Prepaids do not generate enough securable revenue to be allowed access to interantional roaming. Go post paid or get a phone card and forget about a cell phone if money is an issue.

This is actually untrue - my UK prepaid SIM card works in over 100 countries world wide (http://travelabroad.o2-uktech.com/coverage.php), including Iraq aswell as non-GSM countries such as South Korea and Japan, aswell as on a Satellite phone network. I can also MMS whilst roaming on both Fido and Rogers in Canada. The problem is not prepaid tarrifs per-se, it's just the North American carriers being behind European ones.

For example, normally when roaming billing information with regards to which calls you have made can take a while to reach your carrier. Not good for prepaid, where you don't want to have people spending more than they've topped up. This had lead networks to make deals with each other to allow for prepaid roaming, where, presumably, they have updated their roaming systems to keep track of prepaid users balances in real time. In countries where this has taken place, i can use my phone just as normal, but to let me use it in all other countries where my operator has roaming agreements they've devised a system of making sure they know my balance. Text messages/MMS they can keep track of as it is directed through their message centres anyway. Incoming calls they can keep track of as my number links to them, and thus, any calls to my number are automatically routed through them. However, to make outbound calls i just have to dial *111* and press send, which sends a network command to them to call me. When they call me back, I can then dial the number I want, or topup etc.. This means they can keep track of how long I'm on the phone for without special agreements being in place with other network operators all round the world.

 

[voodoofish]

Vincent_2002

obviosly they wont admit GSM is the best coverage CAUSE ITS NOT! the best overall network is a WCDMA or a 3G network. CDMA is merely a variation of WCDMA (3G), thats why u'll notice Qualcomm 3G CDMA on a TELUS phone, in canada that's the best one can get and thats according to The Globe & Mail and not some flimsy opinion based on one's personal experiences.

You seem to be kinda confused, GSM and CDMA are both 2G technologies (1G being analogue networks), with W-CDMA being the GSM version of 3G. Confusing, I know, and it employs CDMA technology. However, it also integrates with GSM networks, meaning calls can seamlessly transfer between GSM and WCDMA without being dropped. It has now been renamed 3GSM to avoid confusion, however few people seem to use the new name. The CDMA version of 3G is called (i think) CDMA-2000. I pretty sure this integrates with existing 2G networks in a similar way to 3GSM integrating with GSM networks.

a 3GSM network alone is unlikely to have the best coverage as they have only been around for a few years, however an integrated GSM/3GSM one is, as 3GSM can transmit at higher power levels in urban areas without causing interferance, meaning there is likely to be better in-building coverage, with coverage in more remote areas being covered by existing GSM networks where 3GSM networks have yet to be built.

 

[no1important]

RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

You have International roaming with Bell Pre paid. But it aint cheap.

 

[nitzomoe]

voodoofish

nitzomoe wrote:
Vincent_2002

obviosly they wont admit GSM is the best coverage CAUSE ITS NOT! the best overall network is a WCDMA or a 3G network. CDMA is merely a variation of WCDMA (3G), thats why u'll notice Qualcomm 3G CDMA on a TELUS phone, in canada that's the best one can get and thats according to The Globe & Mail and not some flimsy opinion based on one's personal experiences.


You seem to be kinda confused, GSM and CDMA are both 2G technologies (1G being analogue networks), with W-CDMA being the GSM version of 3G. Confusing, I know, and it employs CDMA technology. However, it also integrates with GSM networks, meaning calls can seamlessly transfer between GSM and WCDMA without being dropped. It has now been renamed 3GSM to avoid confusion, however few people seem to use the new name. The CDMA version of 3G is called (i think) CDMA-2000. I pretty sure this integrates with existing 2G networks in a similar way to 3GSM integrating with GSM networks.

a 3GSM network alone is unlikely to have the best coverage as they have only been around for a few years, however an integrated GSM/3GSM one is, as 3GSM can transmit at higher power levels in urban areas without causing interferance, meaning there is likely to be better in-building coverage, with coverage in more remote areas being covered by existing GSM networks where 3GSM networks have yet to be built.

CDMA is merely a variation of WCDMA, they are both based on the same system of assignign a code to each call thus allowing for division of available calls for multiple access for its users, and WCDMA does have the best NETWORK not coverage NETWORK because it uses 2.1 GHz as a frequency for both voice and data, allowing for crisp clear conversation (not always) better than GSM, yes the handsets also operate on tri-band GSM but usually not for seamless transition to GSM where no UMTS signal is apparent especially in JAPAN where UMTS is more avalaible than GSM, instead its for customers who are roaming all over the globe. Currently CDMA 1x RTT which is in canada can be considered 3G becuase it fulfills the necessary data transfer speed of 144 kbps just as EGPRS can be considered 3G because it can (hasnt for me yet) reach download speeds of 384 kbps. Thats why i referred to TELUS as 3G, its because most companies (QUALCOMM) consider it 3G. however TELUS/BELL and SPRINT in the states are working on upgrading their network to CDMA 1X EV-DO (EVolution Data Optimize i think) which transfers at 3.1 mps muchf aster than current WCDMA and EV-DO operates at a 5.1 Ghz spectrum for data only. In 2007 Sprint will roll out with a 3G solution for both voice and data which will obliterate current 3GSM networks, operating at a spectrum of 5.1 GHz on 2 separate channels for both voice and data, which will reach speeds of 6.1 mps. Though this is considered theoretical, CDMA upgrades are actually a lot closer to their theoretical targets than GSM upgrades, such as EDGE which has a very high latency rate.

 

[nitzomoe]

RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

the sprint thign si called CDMA 1x EV-DV for EVolution Data & Voice if you were wondering

 

[joe_d_crowell]

Considering the fact that Telus and bell use the same towers, i dont know what people are thinking. Tlus uses bell's towers in the eats , and Bell uses telu's towers in the west. Through this shared agrement they cover over 98% of the canadian Pop. And Rogers owns Fido, so through there little sorry excuses for coverage they cover 93% of the canadain Pop.

Also considering the fact that Bella nd Telus have beter quility phones, and plans. go for them. But if i had to deside between the 2, i would go for telus, because they have the Mike network which is awesome.

So in closeing Rogers+fido=Bad, Telus=Good! so u choose!!


P.S. after doing the math Telus has better plans, so yah.

 

[kalok]

Considering the fact that Telus and bell use the same towers, i dont know what people are thinking. Tlus uses bell's towers in the eats , and Bell uses telu's towers in the west. Through this shared agrement they cover over 98% of the canadian Pop. And Rogers owns Fido, so through there little sorry excuses for coverage they cover 93% of the canadain Pop.

Also considering the fact that Bella nd Telus have beter quility phones, and plans. go for them. But if i had to deside between the 2, i would go for telus, because they have the Mike network which is awesome.

So in closeing Rogers+fido=Bad, Telus=Good! so u choose!!


P.S. after doing the math Telus has better plans, so yah.

Rogers cover 93% of canadian population with DIGITAL coverage. Telus and Bell may cover 98%, but not all digital.

bell and telus has better quality phones??? eh.. I dont' think so.


kalok~

 

[nitzomoe]

RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

TELUS offers 93% digital coverage and according to the Globe & Mail review of wireless companies can lay claim to the title " most digital coverage with regards to Canada's Population" HOWEVER and this is very important, ROGERS can claim "most digital coverage in terms of area,in Canada" as they do offer more rural areas with coverage, example ROGERS now advertises blanket coverage in southern ontario which is superior to TELUS/BELL.

This is great for when you travel as you can expect better reception and less dropped calls outside of Toronto. This is not to say that if u take a ROGERS fone and a TELUS fone with u while travelling you would be able to tell the difference, there are other mitigating factors.

With regards to the phones, GSM phones beat CDMA phones hands down in terms of features, there is currently only 4 bluetooth CDMA phones as opposed to more than a 100 GSM phones. Also GSM phones default gaming softwware is JAVA while CDMA uses BREW which just isnt as good. However in my experience CDMA phones tend to have more battery life, less dropped calls and clearer reception than GSM. This may change with the new CDMA 1x EV-DO phones expected late 2005/early 2006, which have a multitude of features at a fraction of the cost of UMTS phones.

rate plans wise, according to the advertised ones TELUS offers better plans in Toronto, without a doubt. Their unltd incoming plan is $5 cheaper than fido and offers 100 minutes worth of long distance! even with activation fee and system access fees their price is still better, they price soo competitively that its a wonder how other brand sell. My geuss is brand awareness as ROGERS/BELL both offer phoneline/cable/internet and have monopolies for those services in TORONTO, otherwise TELUS would be gaining even more marketshare than it currently has. But I'll stick to my current plan with ROGERS, older plans are always better!

 

[kalok]

Re: RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

^^
CDMA phones' battery aren't really better than GSM. CDMA still offer Analog system, and analog consume battery way faster then anyone could imagine. GSM phone battery can somehow weaker, due to GSM phones has more features. But then again, it depends on how you use the phone.

Terms of reception, GSM phone is still sightly better, reason is, if you have only 1 bar of signal, your call will still carry on without any problem. I know with CDMA phone, you'll have to run around to find better signal. (I've tried with my friend's Moto V710 to concluse that result). But it's still obvious that it depends on phones.

Why I say GSM is better, coz it gives you liberty of switching phones. You don't need to transfer your phonebook one by one to another phone. You don't need to call your service provider to tell them you've switched to another phone. And you don't need to program the phone. Just put the SIM card in the phone and that's it.

By the way, WCDMA is not CDMA.
WCDMA is 3G of GSM
EV-DO is 3G of CDMA
However, WCDMA borrows certain technology ideas from CDMA.
That means, Telus/Bell is not getting WCDMA.

Source : Phonescoop.com
http://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=104

 

[nitzomoe]

thats what i meant..... but TELUS is getting EV-DO and EV-DV (hopefuly) which is even better!

 

[kalok]

thats what i meant..... but TELUS is getting EV-DO and EV-DV (hopefuly) which is even better!

well.. WCDMA still offer the liberty of phones

kalok~

 

[nitzomoe]

RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

hey thats why im with ROGERS, plus better phones to choose from.

 

[kalok]

Re: RE: Fido vs. Telus/Clearn

hey thats why im with ROGERS, plus better phones to choose from.

Good Choice!

kalok~