Fatal police shooting inside hospital ER in Guelph, Ont.

petros

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okay

well that could be...I've been wrong once before... ;-)

Would you be pro gun if you had the best hunting on the planet?

Would you be pro white/cop if you had the highest crime rate thanks to a highly rascist minority demographic?

Would you be pro business (rich) if they were investing where Ottawa has ignored for 60 years?

If you had enough BS would you speak loudly to be heard which also puts you in the spotlight?
 

Sal

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so on the one hand you say I am wrong and then pose questions which would lead me to lean toward thinking I am absolutely correct

Would you be pro gun if you had the best hunting on the planet?
no...I'm not an enthusiastic about the taste of wild game...I can't even stomach duck and goose is revolting, besides, it's not about hunting and owning guns to hunt is it?


Would you be pro white/cop if you had the highest crime rate thanks to a highly rascist minority demographic?
and this too is misleading since I am not anti cop or anti white but I certainly choose the behaviour I endorse from the police. I didn't agree with that kid who got gunned down in Toronto because he was mentally ill and flashed a knife and the cops gunned him down even though he was contained on a bus. That was wrong and the cop who did it was a gun happy idiot who does not deserve to serve...ever again.

Would you be pro business (rich) if they were investing where Ottawa has ignored for 60 years?
Again, misleading. I worked in business for years so I am certainly not anti business...but I don't defend their every move or smash down their every move. But I don't think the little guy is always wrong and lazy either.

If you had enough BS would you speak loudly to be heard which also puts you in the spotlight?
I choose my battles and the older I get the more I am choosing for the little guy, cause that's what I am. I am a little guy that works hard for my money and wants clean water, clean food, clean air, and can safely walk down the street without having to pack a gun and still feel safe. I think we have that right.

Many do not. I'm okay with them being against it, and for big business and screwing the little guy as long as they don't have the power to do it.
 

petros

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For many outside of southern Ontario The phrase "did you get your moose" means the difference between having Christmas for your kids or hitting the food bank.

Did westerners back the shooting of a kid on a TTC bus? What about this and alleged "racial profiling"?

Regina police chief responds to community concerns over transparency, racial profiling

78% of racial BS deemed BS. Why?

So Ottawa hasn't f-cked over the west on behalf of ON and QC to keep "Canada" happy and get votes?

Why do we need business investing in 3Ps

We have clean air, water and an abundance of the highest quality of food in the west. Must be an eastern issue.

We are all "little guys".

Have you walled yourself into a tiny world in your older age?
 

Sal

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For many outside of southern Ontario The phrase "did you get your moose" means the difference between having Christmas for your kids or hitting the food bank.
hm you have hungry kids out there too...strange that eh...bet they are aren't all lazy either...neither are they here in southern Ontario...a hungry kid out west and a hungry kid in S Ontario are just hungry kids and that is a travesty in a country this weathy


Did westerners back the shooting of a kid on a TTC bus? What about this and alleged "racial profiling"?
Regina police chief responds to community concerns over transparency, racial profiling
some did yup, some didn't just like some here from Ontario did, and some didn't

So Ottawa hasn't f-cked over the west on behalf of ON and QC to keep "Canada" happy and get votes? Why do we need business investing in 3Ps
don't really understand where you're going with this but sure they have is there a point to this with regard to the OP and my comment on the difference in attitude that I find toward the need for guns in every hand between where I happen to live and the western provinces?

We have clean air, water and an abundance of the highest quality of food in the west. Must be an eastern issue.
yeah it's an eastern issue...sure

We are all "little guys".
a lot of people don't know that, they think big business is their friend and that there is no other answer than to keep going and being screwed and who wants to be screwed, so they pretend it's not them being jacked...that makes it seem okay...me I just like to think perhaps with the brilliance of man's mind that we can have a gentler, kinder world, and kids can get fed from sea to sea and shore to shore. I think we could do that.

Have you walled yourself into a tiny world in your older age?
maybe *shrug* if so, it's a nice little world populated with nice people, happy, helpful people...guess I chose the right place or I'm just lucky...either way, I'll take it
 

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in 1993 I moved my family from this hell hole to a small town of 1000 people. And although the folks in that small town were somewhat clannish and bigoted, I liked it. My girls seemed to do better there too .

would have been better if the people weren't dumbazzes though
 

Sal

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in 1993 I moved my family from this hell hole to a small town of 1000 people. And although the folks in that small town were somewhat clannish and bigoted, I liked it. My girls seemed to do better there too .

would have been better if the people weren't dumbazzes though
agreed if it's too small it's a mixed bag of folksy and stupid, it's like inbreeding happened without the same blood running through everyone's veins...

still ya get to chose who your friends are, so it's all good
 

petros

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Necessity of hunting is Canada wide. Look it up.

You never knew the west has been given the shaft on your behalf? Why not? Walls?

Which type of guns are people desiring? Pistols or rifles?

No air, water or food issues here. Why not? What is wrong with your air, water and food?

What makes you think people here aren't friendly or happy here in our nice clean world where we don't have to feign friendliness out of fear and overpopulation?

What makes you believe business is out to screw you?

Food banks press Alberta hunters to donate their surplus meat - The Globe and Mail

Hunters asked to donate extra meat to Saskatoon Food Bank | News Talk 650 CKOM

Hunters Helping the Hungry in its Sixth Year | novascotia.ca

Then we see....

Wild game meat not welcome at Ontario food banks | National Post
 

SLM

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The news didn't say a reason why they had to shoot the guy.. other than for sh*ts and giggles.


Sure they did.

A witness told CBC News that she saw a woman running out of the hospital while yelling, "My boyfriend's shooting at me."
Sounds like a domestic dispute that followed someone to work. Of course I'm operating on the assumption that a person firing a gun in public is a justifiable reason for police to discharge their weapons and not just for, you know, sh*ts and giggles.

On a further note, it's so very, very weird to me how this thread has wandered. Because it's the piece that I quoted above that jumped out at me in this story, about how no matter what we do and how we live our lives, violence can still touch us.
 

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agreed if it's too small it's a mixed bag of folksy and stupid, it's like inbreeding happened without the same blood running through everyone's veins...

still ya get to chose who your friends are, so it's all good
didn't make many friends but the fishing was good and the kids were safe.

Sure they did.

Sounds like a domestic dispute that followed someone to work. Of course I'm operating on the assumption that a person firing a gun in public is a justifiable reason for police to discharge their weapons and not just for, you know, sh*ts and giggles.

On a further note, it's so very, very weird to me how this thread has wandered. Because it's the piece that I quoted above that jumped out at me in this story, about how no matter what we do and how we live our lives, violence can still touch us.
yeah. Everything wanders
 

Sal

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Necessity of hunting is Canada wide. Look it up.

You never knew the west has been given the shaft on your behalf? Why not? Walls?

Which type of guns are people desiring? Pistols or rifles?

No air, water or food issues here. Why not? What is wrong with your air, water and food?

What makes you think people here aren't friendly or happy here in our nice clean world where we don't have to feign friendliness out of fear and overpopulation?

What makes you believe business is out to screw you?

Food banks press Alberta hunters to donate their surplus meat - The Globe and Mail

Hunters asked to donate extra meat to Saskatoon Food Bank | News Talk 650 CKOM

Hunters Helping the Hungry in its Sixth Year | novascotia.ca

Then we see....

Wild game meat not welcome at Ontario food banks | National Post
no need to look it up...I have zero interest in embracing your stance...you sincerely need to chill out, maybe even actually attempt to understand what someone posts and actually address what they have posted before you grab a tangent and race with it ...some people on here are so miserable with every post they should invest in drugs

I have made my stand on guns, environment, animal rights, human rights, abortion, cops, and everything else quite clear over the years and so have you and every other member here...now we have to live with it and the resulting conclusion of how others view us as human beings

forums are like that...this forum is so small now I am more than sure each of us will know exactly where others stand on an OP issue and how nasty or respectful they will be to each and every other poster who will post their already known opinion

every once in a while there is a lovely surprise but mostly not...my desire to gnash teeth with others has dissipated considerably, not because i agree but because unless it's going to be a respectful discussion it simply does not entice me, my self control has increased considerably on here and in real time

guess it's a result of my limited happy little world which you seem to think is a negative...I on the other hand just keep slicing those negative people out of my world and the result is quite amazing...in a wonderful kind of way

if you have a particular issue you would like to discuss with me I am more than happy to do so, but as you are well aware when someone throws a blind link up with zero opinion given...I am not about to start wading through the various rooms of their mind guessing what they are attempting to say

Sure they did.

Sounds like a domestic dispute that followed someone to work. Of course I'm operating on the assumption that a person firing a gun in public is a justifiable reason for police to discharge their weapons and not just for, you know, sh*ts and giggles.

On a further note, it's so very, very weird to me how this thread has wandered. Because it's the piece that I quoted above that jumped out at me in this story, about how no matter what we do and how we live our lives, violence can still touch us.
he had stabbed her with scissors
 

SLM

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Any update to the story as to why the police considered it necessary to shoot this victim?? Did he have a gun or knife.. they couldn't use a taser??

Guelph hospital police shooting details begin to emerge from witnesses - Kitchener-Waterloo - CBC News

"All I heard was gunshots, the chick's just like, 'Help, my boyfriend's shooting at me,' and she comes running out," said Morton. "I did see blood on her leg, though, and there was blood on the ground. I saw her collapse."
Another witness, Eric Brown, said, "I looked over and [saw] basically one of the security guards going inside, and then all of sudden came out real quick, and there was a lady in behind him with blood on her hands, screaming her boyfriend's shooting."
There won't be an official statement until SIU is done it's investigation.


Safety at Guelph General Hospital questioned after shooting inside ER


Looks like some douchebag followed his girlfriend to the ER, probably looking to finish the job, apparently with a gun.