Farage vows to recruit major household names to the Brexit Party

[Blackleaf]

The "Amti-Nazi Crusade" thing or "Saving England from the Germans" are both equally American bullshit, as well. Before Germany declared war on the US, a lot of the Americans were fervently anti-British (they were all taught in their classrooms that their glorious revolution was all because of the evil British). There was all sorts of sympathy there for Nazi Germany and the advancements that they had made. German racial laws didn't bother the Americans one bit as they were almost word-for-word a copy of the Jim Crow apartheit laws that a big chunk of the USA were under. Also, tens of millions of Americans were of German descent and pre-Pearl Harbour, were sympathetic to Germany while France was falling and Britain was besieged.
Lend Lease? ...was very profitable for the US and the British only just finished paying off the full tab for it about a decade ago. Some of the gear that was leased was junk, too ... obsolete Hudson aircraft, 50 baffed out destroyers of inferior design that proved to be next to useless in the North Atlantic and we're mostly tied up and used for training. British small warships were light years ahead of American designs and when the Yanks got around to making decent escorts, there "reversed engineered" a British designed Frigate that was built in a Canadian ship yard. slapped the ole "Proudly Made in USA" sticker on it and added their warship design prowess to the myth.

Lend lease helped to make 1950s America prosperous - Yanks living in luxury new houses, driving nice new cars, having well-paid jobs, televisions, refrigerators. All this whilst the British were living with food rationing and poverty, living in squalid Victorian housing, living next to bomb sites and just general squalor and hardship.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Again, you can produce like a tiger with its tail on fire without sending your young men off to die for the sake of the Shiny Hat of Engerland. Just look at the Swedes.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Lend lease helped to make 1950s America prosperous - Yanks living in luxury new houses, driving nice new cars, having well-paid jobs, televisions, refrigerators. All this whilst the British were living with food rationing and poverty, living in squalid Victorian housing, living next to bomb sites and just general squalor and hardship.

Because you deserved it.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Lend lease helped to make 1950s America prosperous - Yanks living in luxury new houses, driving nice new cars, having well-paid jobs, televisions, refrigerators. All this whilst the British were living with food rationing and poverty, living in squalid Victorian housing, living next to bomb sites and just general squalor and hardship.

You think that you had it bad, Germany and Japan were piles of rubble who ultimately out-performed the UK times over.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You think that you had it bad, Germany and Japan were piles of rubble who ultimately out-performed the UK times over.

Not that out-performing the UK is any great feat. They barely managed to defend their island, and consider that a great victory.

And while I know you and Blackshirt like to make yourselves feel better by minimizing the American contribution to the 20th century wars, I'm forced to point out that both were effectively defensive stalemates until the Yanks checked in.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Not that out-performing the UK is any great feat. They barely managed to defend their island, and consider that a great victory.

Well, they did that by using their heads not by muscle, that's for sure. The only real military muscle that they had was tied up in big steel hulks up in Scapa Flow that mostly proved to be next to useless.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Not that out-performing the UK is any great feat. They barely managed to defend their island, and consider that a great victory.
And while I know you and Blackshirt like to make yourselves feel better by minimizing the American contribution to the 20th century wars, I'm forced to point out that both were effectively defensive stalemates until the Yanks checked in.

The Americans defeated Japan. There is no question about it. The Red Army defeated na Germany.

 

[Blackleaf]

You think that you had it bad, Germany and Japan were piles of rubble who ultimately out-performed the UK times over.

They outperformed virtually every country, including Canada, which was virtually untouched by war.

Japan did well because it was aided by the US, which feared that a poor and impoverished Japanese people would turn to Communism.

 

[Blackleaf]

The Americans defeated Japan. There is no question about it. The Red Army defeated na Germany.

Well the Yanks were the only ones taking on the Japanese in any serious way.

The British and other European allies were busy tied up defending themselves from our German neighbours.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Well the Yanks were the only ones taking on the Japanese in any serious way.
The British and other European allies were busy tied up defending themselves from our German neighbours.

The Yanks were defending themselves too, don't forget. Had they not pushed back immediately, the Japanese could easily have landed on the North America West Coast and steamrolled everything and everyone in front of them. It would have been a very different war if the US army were tied up pushing invaders from their homeland but if split second decisions had gone the other way at Midway and luck would have had the American carrier fleet wiped out not the Japanese one, the Americans may very well have ended up fighting to the death in Oregon.

 

[Blackleaf]

The Yanks were defending themselves too, don't forget. Had they not pushed back immediately, the Japanese could easily have landed on the North America West Coast and steamrolled everything and everyone in front of them. It would have been a very different war if the US army were tied up pushing invaders from their homeland but if split second decisions had gone the other way at Midway and luck would have had the American carrier fleet wiped out not the Japanese one, the Americans may very well have ended up fighting to the death in Oregon.

The Yanks didn't have to contend with fighting off Nazi Germany right on its doorstep unlike the British, who concentrated most of their resources on fighting Germany.

 

[Curious Cdn]

The Yanks didn't have to contend with fighting off Nazi Germany right on its doorstep unlike the British, who concentrated most of their resources on fighting Germany.

I don't know ... Pearl Harbour, Midway, Wake Island, Addu, had lots of American doorsteps on them.

 

[Blackleaf]

I don't know ... Pearl Harbour, Midway, Wake Island, Addu, had lots of American doorsteps on them.

When the British went to war with Japan in 1941 their forces were incredibly overstretched due to the war against Germany.


The Americans didn't suffer from overstretch because they weren't fighting anybody else before fighting the Japanese.

The Yanks were able to put huge amounts of resources to fighting the Japanese, whereas the British were tied up in the more important (for them) task of fighting the Germans.

 

[Curious Cdn]

When the British went to war with Japan in 1941 their forces were incredibly overstretched due to the war against Germany.
The Americans didn't suffer from overstretch because they weren't fighting anybody else before fighting the Japanese.
The Yanks were able to put huge amounts of resources to fighting the Japanese, whereas the British were tied up in the more important (for them) task of fighting the Germans.

Singapore fell with hardly a shot being fired. The Prince of Wales and Repulse went down because of hubris and racist thoughts that the Japanese were incapable inferiors. Incompetence ran rampant in the East.

 

[Blackleaf]

Singapore fell with hardly a shot being fired.

Because of the reason I've mentioned above.


The same happened to the Yanks at Bataan - a humiliating surrender and then a forced death march - but, unlike the British who were concentrating on Germany and Italy, they weren't overstretched.

The Prince of Wales and Repulse went down because of hubris and racist thoughts that the Japanese were incapable inferiors. Incompetence ran rampant in the East.

Now don't be silly.

 

[Kreskin]

Canexit was painless.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The Yanks were defending themselves too, don't forget. Had they not pushed back immediately, the Japanese could easily have landed on the North America West Coast and steamrolled everything and everyone in front of them. It would have been a very different war if the US army were tied up pushing invaders from their homeland but if split second decisions had gone the other way at Midway and luck would have had the American carrier fleet wiped out not the Japanese one, the Americans may very well have ended up fighting to the death in Oregon.

Yes, with half our population and embroiled in China and southeast Asia, the Japanese would have been a real threat.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yes, with half our population and embroiled in China and southeast Asia, the Japanese would have been a real threat.

The Japanese were a real threat.

 

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DAN HODGES: Repulsive tweet that reveals why Remainers have only themselves to blame for Farage

By Dan Hodges For The Mail On Sunday
19 May 2019

Last Tuesday, an image began to circulate on Twitter of a Nigel Farage rally. Showing a predominantly white, relatively elderly audience, it was quickly seized upon by Matt Kelly, editor of the pro-Remain New European newspaper. ‘An actual Nigel Farage audience,’ he commented. ‘Marvel at the diversity, behold the spread of demographics. And bring a mop to clear up all the leaked piss afterwards.’

On Thursday, Britain votes in the European elections. If the opinion polls prove to be even remotely accurate, they will be won decisively by the Brexit Party.

At which point anxious Remainers will take to the airwaves and print, and commence a tortuous search for the reasons why.

This tweet was written by Matt Kelly, editor of the pro-Remain New European newspaper

Nigel Farage’s impending triumph needs no scholarly deconstruction

The media – inevitably – will shoulder much of the blame, accused of failing to effectively interrogate, challenge and expose the Brexit Party’s leader. Farage will be castigated for nefariously pulling the wool over the eyes of a gullible electorate. Theresa May will be pilloried because that’s basically all she is useful for now. And it will all amount to nothing more than an exercise in self-indulgent, pseudo-intellectual denial.

Farage’s impending triumph needs no scholarly deconstruction. All it requires is for Remainers to open their eyes and ears, and grasp three simple facts.

In 2016, Britain voted to leave the EU. It is now 2019, and Britain has not left the European Union.

Mocking, abusing and belittling people who perceive a basic injustice in this democratic disconnect will not result in them reversing their opinion. It will result in the brutal political backlash about to be administered to Britain’s mainstream politicians in four days’ time.

The Remainers place great store on the perceived ignorance of their opponents. Their supposed narrow world-view, simplistic Brexit prospectus and casual Little Englander prejudice. They are pledged to take the fight to them right up until 10pm on polling day.

But they would be better served doing a little less fighting and a bit more reflecting. Reflecting on their own ignorance of the forces that are about to be unleashed.

Farage is one of the most highly scrutinised politicians in British political history. His childhood, medical history, private life, business life, financial relationships, political relationships, drinking habits, driving habits, sartorial choices – just about every aspect of his existence has been examined and headlined on one of the major national media platforms. And the bandwagon keeps rolling.

Rather than the reincarnation of Churchill, Farage is Brexit’s Del Boy Trotter – the fast-talking chancer whose patter is ultimately doomed to failure

There is no killer fact waiting to be revealed. There will be no definitive exposé. The silver bullet Remainers keep praying for does not exist. And it doesn’t exist for one simple reason. Nigel Farage is fooling no one.

Certainly not the British people. Contrary to popular Remainer wisdom, they know full well who and what the Brexit Party leader is. He does not engender the starry-eyed devotion of Blair, the awe of Thatcher or cultish idealism of Corbyn. Rather than the reincarnation of Churchill, he is Brexit’s Del Boy Trotter – the fast-talking chancer whose patter is ultimately doomed to failure, but will burst the conceit and pomposity of the Establishment in the process.

The British people are also aware of something else. Whatever distortions and sleight of hand Farage may have deployed in previous campaigns and incarnations, in the 2019 European elections he is telling the truth.

Before the Referendum, we were told by the Prime Minister of the day – and in a taxpayer-funded leaflet delivered to every home in the land – that it was our choice. We could vote to stay in the European Union, or we could vote to leave the European Union – and the politicians would implement our will.

Britain chose to leave. At which point the politicians turned to the nation and said: ‘Sorry, but you’re staying anyway.’

Farage describes this as an act of betrayal. To which Remainers respond by accusing him of peddling incendiary invective.

But what do we actually call it when someone delivers a solemn pledge, you accept it in good faith, then they do precisely the opposite? What word is in the dictionary to describe such an act?

In this campaign, the truth is not Farage’s enemy, but his friend. Yet for some reason, Remainers are utterly blind to this basic fact.

They are setting themselves against the will of the people as freely and fairly expressed via the ballot box. They are abusing those who want that result respected for being too stupid, too old or too white. Then they wonder why they are losing the argument. And the European elections.

Perhaps they ultimately don’t care. As in 2016, initial shock at the Brexit Party’s breakthrough could simply give way to further defiance.

If the voice of the voters has been ignored once, why not again? Maybe the end will be seen to justify the means.

So long as Britain remains in the sainted EU, the implosion of the main parties and fracturing of parliamentary democracy is a price worth paying. But that it will have to be paid is no longer in doubt. The patience of the British people has been tested to destruction.

Our politicians have been given – and ignored – too many warnings. They have taken the voters for granted for the final time.

This morning the Remainers are struggling to understand what lies behind the Farage Surge.

On Thursday they will be given the answer.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...ive-tweet-reveals-Remainers-blame-Farage.html

 

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EUROVISION STRONG CONTEST Nigel Farage vows to topple Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May with Brexit Party in a political revolution

Mr Farage says 'Westminster is in for a seismic shock' with Euro election results

Exclusive
By David Wooding, Sunday Political Editor
18th May 2019
The Sun on Sunday

NIGEL Farage will try to pull off the biggest upset in British political history this week – and claim the scalps of two party leaders.

He believes his new Brexit Party will become a major force by trouncing Labour and the Tories in the European elections.

The Brexit Party's Nigel Farage vows to topple Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn in a political revolution

And he warned that victory will hasten the demise not only of Theresa May but Jeremy Corbyn, too.

Mr Farage predicted: “Westminster is in for a seismic shock. And the elections on Thursday will only be the start.”

It’s barely a month since the former Ukip leader launched his fledgling party, yet it is already topping the polls and has 100,000 paid-up supporters.

The groundswell has convinced him the EU elections can be a springboard to a revolution in politics.

In an exclusive interview with The Sun on Sunday, Mr Farage said: “What we’re doing now is way bigger than Brexit.

“Many of our supporters have completely lost faith with the whole system and want to break it up and start again.

“This is not a party I am leading. It’s a movement and our goal this time is to change politics for good.”

POLITICAL REVOLUTION

If the Brexit Party wins on Thursday, Mr Farage will set his sights on the next general election – and already has 1,300 would-be candidates pleading to stand.

He admits his next goal will be to remove Brexit-blocking MPs and win enough seats in the Commons to hold the balance of power.

But first he is gunning for the two main party leaders and predicted a resounding result would kill two “lame ducks” with one stone.

Nigel Farage believes Theresa May would have more chance of leaving Europe if she ran a football team

Farage's Brexit Party is targeting Leave-voting Labour seats in the Midlands, North of England and South Wales

He declared: “The best way to get rid of Theresa May quickly is to vote for the Brexit party. She said she’s going to lay out a timetable for standing down but that could be months down the road.

“If the Tories get smashed this week, then Mrs May will be gone pretty quickly. Their traditional supporters realise this is a way of getting rid of possibly the worst Prime Minister in the history of our nation.

“But there’s also a huge internal war going on within Labour. The Remainers are gathering momentum and want to make it a full-on second referendum party.

ELECTION UPSET LOOMS

“There are five million Labour supporters out there who voted Brexit and in my experience of door-to-door campaigning they are among the most fervent Brexiteers in the whole country.

“So the impact we have will not just affect the Tories but Labour, too. I think we can hurt both those parties and we may well end up with two different leaders as a result.”

The Brexit Party bandwagon is targeting Leave-voting Labour seats in the Midlands, North of England and South Wales.

Mr Farage senses his army of supporters are not just “lending” their votes as a protest but are ready to stick with him for a general election.

“What’s happening in politics now is way bigger than Brexit itself,” he said. “This is the beginning of a political revolution. Millions of people have completely lost faith in the whole system. They want to break the whole thing and start again.

“While Ukip was a vehicle to achieve Brexit, what we are doing now is way more radical, way more ambitious.

“When I entered the political fray, I never thought I could lead a party that could win significant numbers of seats in the House of Commons or potentially be in government.

“But now I’m up for that fight. The day after the referendum, I realised the people in charge were the same people I’d fought against for 25 years. My battle now is about replacing those people.

“Now I think we can damage them so much. I don’t see why we can’t win enough seats to hold the balance of power. I mean it. I genuinely believe this is true.

“In 2015 I led Ukip to four million votes – an amazing achievement in itself. This does not feel like a four-million-vote party to me. It is much, much bigger. If you suddenly become a six million vote party, you start to win seats in real numbers, whether that’s 30, 40 or 50, I don’t know but it feels much bigger than anything I’ve been involved in before.”

Some Tories fear they could finish in fifth place in the EU polls – prompting Mr Farage to quip Mrs May would have more chance of leaving Europe if she ran a football team.

He added: “The Conservative party thinks it has a divine right to exist, just like the Church of England. The truth is, it doesn’t but they are still stuck in that mind set.

“Brexit has changed everything. The genie is out of the bottle and it can’t be put back. People have ditched their old party loyalties of right and left, Tory and Labour. They now identify themselves as Leavers or Remainers.

“There is a re-alignment of politics going on that most people in Westminster haven’t yet understood. But they will pretty damned soon.”

SMEARS SHAME

BREXIT wreckers are “shameful” for smearing those who voted to leave the EU, Nigel Farage says.

Millions of ordinary people have been dubbed thick, old or racist in a three-year wave of vile insults hurled by intolerant Remainers.

Mr Farage said: “If we had lost the referendum and I had encouraged this sort of behaviour, I would be in prison for incitement. It’s bad enough that so many Remainers refuse to accept the result of the biggest democratic exercise in our history. But the vicious attacks are beyond the pale, as are the attempts of so many MPs to derail the whole process.”

Taking aim at Labour’s Brexit chief Keir Starmer and others, he declared: “Democracy only works with the losers’ consent. But the losers — Blair, Clegg, Starmer and friends — simply won’t give it. I don’t think there has ever been a time in our democratic history where this has happened before.”

Mr Farage shrugs off personal attacks on himself saying it only makes support for him stronger.

He added: “They call us fascists, but they are the ones trying to stop our meetings.”


Nigel Farage already has 1,300 candidates ready to stand for the Brexit Party in the next general election

Nigel Farage predicts his Brexit Party will become a major force

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/9105438/nigel-farage-brexit-party-political-revolution/