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Good grief.. you don't really believe that do you Karrie. Shame is fundamental to homosexuality.. no pastiche of social affirmation and acceptance is going to change that. And the decadence is the elixir of homosexuality.. its intrigue is in its rebellion against society.. but especially God..
Speaking from experience? Speaking from statistics? Speaking from what, your baseless opinion?

There are NO committed 'marriages' in the the homosexual world... just transient partnerships in misery.
After 12 years of being together, Elton John and David furnish joined in a civil union in 2005 and adopted a second son this year. I think you're simply projecting onto others what you think your state would be if you were in a homosexual relationship. My suggestion would be to quit thinking because you seem to be a lot more miserable than any gays I've ever met.
 

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Speaking from experience? Speaking from statistics? Speaking from what, your baseless opinion?

After 12 years of being together, Elton John and David furnish joined in a civil union in 2005 and adopted a second son this year. I think you're simply projecting onto others what you think your state would be if you were in a homosexual relationship. My suggestion would be to quit thinking because you seem to be a lot more miserable than any gays I've ever met.

He is mighty generous about sharing it with us, gotta admit.
 

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I go out of my way to condemn the sin and NOT the sinner in my posts.
Whatta hero.
It is you who is insulting people by stating that this immoral affectation..
Immoral according to you and your religion.
this rebellion against natural law and God..
One in the same to you by the looks of it, except that gods and goblins popped outta the woodwork when humans had no explanation for events. Natural laws have been around a lot longer than humans.
this compensatory distraction to inner moral turmoil.. utterly defines an individual.
So the explanation for your frequent displays of bitterness and avoidance of reality is....?

It's sad the so many people have fallen for this propaganda and find their lives revolving around the insatiable expectations of the homosexual lifestyle.. one that will produce nothing but misery and futility after the immedate gratification is exhausted.
lol If there's anything that could be called propaganda, it's your Bible and your posts.

Ah, so your implication is that they should simply be able to walk away from their sexuality, the people they love, and then they will be happy? Because sexuality isn't our whole character?

Well, if such is the case, I'd challenge you to walk away from anyone you love, walk away from your family, and go be gay for a while. See how much your heterosexuality and your family define you.
lol You kidding? He's phobic to the point of being a 20 on a scale of 1 to 10 in an al retention. That'd be a kodak moment, though.
 

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Statistics will show you most mature committed homosexuals live solitary lives.
Get off your phobic, opinionated butt and post them then.
Even those who manage a mutual living relationship of year or two is miniscule.. and amounts to little more than sharing rent. The few who manage long term co-habitation are ones of exhausted, hollowed out convenience.
Spoken from a base of pure ignorance and bias. Elton John and David Furnish, 17 years together. Why would they have waited 12 years to get married if the relationship was a "hollowed out convenience" and not moved on to different people in public washrooms like "all homosexuals " do?
B. Bunny - "Ahh, whatta maroon".

They are a parody of real marriage.. but they find some solace in pandering the media's thirst to find 'happy homosexual' couples to put of real estate and reality shows... or news soundbites.
How would you know what they find solace in?

Where's the world ALL in relationship to the practice.. that was the distinction you seem unable to understand.

The fact of the matter since homosexuality has no real substance it is impossible to universalize. There are 'homosexuals' who are bi-sexual, have moved in or out of the life at various periods.. are active or inactive. All this backs up my contention that there really are NO homosexuals, it is pure affectation... There are just people who practice homosexuality.
Again you display a profound ignorance of science.
 

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Pope Francis's remarks were completely misrepresented by the Press.
Then it's Frank's impetus to correct it then, NOT YOURS.

His short 90 second statement in a 90 minute interview was aimed condemning lobbies.. which impose agendas on institutions (like the Church) or nations (like Canada). Nothing he said contradicted what the RCC has held since its inception.. and based on Scripture.

That is that inclination of homosexuality is not sinful in itself (as with all inclinations)... although it is profoundly disordered. The practice of homosexuality is a MORTAL sin (as with all sin).. define that as a killing of divine inspiration within you.. and God's presence and aid in your life.
Yeah yeah. That's YOUR interpretation.

He made the mistake of using the word Gay.. which he might have been unaware is politically charged and infused by the homosexual agenda in the English language.
Who cares? I'm sure everyone knows what he meant. And BTW, your speeches are riddled with governmental nonsense, too.

Nothing is going to change... the RCC will not be blessing same sex unions.. or knowingly ordaining homosexual priests.
Uhuh. The RCC eventually catches up with science and is forced to reinterpret its claims in its past. Left-handers used to be demons and all that.
Again, "Ahhh, whatta maroon".
 

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It's kinda strange. The Caflick church has undergone MASSIVE change over the last 1500-odd years, yet every generation thinks "as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end."

Critical thinking skills. Learn 'em, know 'em, love 'em, use 'em.
 

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nope, no mention of homosexuality and it is not Christ speaking. Try again. No where does Jesus or God condemn homosexuality. Jewish law does, not God's law. God's law: The 10 commandments.

Fine by me. Just saying what I've been told: that Acts 15:20 brings Old Testament sexual law into Christianity.

Far as I'm concerned, it's all as true and relevant to my life as "One Ring to rule them all/One Ring to find them. . . ."
 

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Nothing is going to change... the RCC will not be blessing same sex unions.. or knowingly ordaining homosexual priests.

Oh I think plenty is going to change. While I doubt they will institute gay marriage, the sexual orientation of a priest is irrelevant, as he's supposed to be abstinent. I think what WILL change, is that the church will clarify its stance, to be one of it simply being outside of the rites of marriage in the church, but not 'deeply disordered', or anymore sinful than any other human who marries outside the church, or has sex outside of marriage. Because, contrary to what YOU say, all my years in the church, THAT has been the message, not what you spout.
 

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Well, he DOES follow a religion that believes that celibates are the best advisors on sex and marriage.


A religious guy? Ignorant of science? Ce n'est pas possible!

Hey.... don't blame religion, it's a scape goat in this case. I've met priests who speak directly against his message.

Uhuh. The RCC eventually catches up with science and is forced to reinterpret its claims in its past. Left-handers used to be demons and all that.
Again, "Ahhh, whatta maroon".


And keep in mind that throughout the Bible, God's message never stays the same. If you want to get into taking the Bible literally, then you have to accept that religion changes.... the Bible is proof positive that it does.
 

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Hey.... don't blame religion, it's a scape goat in this case. I've met priests who speak directly against his message.




And keep in mind that throughout the Bible, God's message never stays the same. If you want to get into taking the Bible literally, then you have to accept that religion changes.... the Bible is proof positive that it does.
hhmm Yeah, makes sense.
 

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fabulous discussion guys, I thought everyone was live and let live for the most part on this issue so this was eye opening... it is good for me because when you hang with a certain circle of people you begin to project that slant onto everyone