EU and Canadian militaries lag behind US and UK militaries

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Vanni Fucci said:
I think not said:
Well I know you are hoping that the demise of the US is imminent, but I assure you it won't happen in your lifetime.

I don't know that anyone here wishes that ITN...

I will say though that your next president is going to have a hell of a lot of work to do to correct the missteps of this one...unless it's Jeb...then you're going to have to wait another 8 years for political declination... :?

I think many wish it, but I concede the next Pres has lots to do after 8 years of moronic leadership. At least the deficit was brought down somewhat this year, and thats SOMETHING.
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
no, wrong again. No one wants to see the demise of the US. The US has so much positive to contribute to the world at large. The US has simply lost its focus and path at the moment. A start might be NOT to dwell on the military prowess and change focus into something constructive like international COOPERATION.....as opposed to trying to dominate the world. The whole tone would change. The US can demostrate willingness by compromizing too. It does NOT have to Have ITS way all the time. In other words MATURE a lot from their infantile thinking. .....or needing to be the bully on the planet. No percentage in that. ....and yet they don't realize this.

It'll pass.
 

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Re: EU and Canadian militaries lag behind US and UK militari

Vanni Fucci said:
I think not said:
Well I know you are hoping that the demise of the US is imminent, but I assure you it won't happen in your lifetime.

I don't know that anyone here wishes that ITN...

I will say though that your next president is going to have a hell of a lot of work to do to correct the missteps of this one...unless it's Jeb...then you're going to have to wait another 8 years for political declination... :?

Vanni........can you just imagine what the world has to look forward to with another serial bush leader ????? Kinda scary. 8O

On the other hand , this might be just what the US wants.> For the world to be "afraid" of it. :twisted: (which in turn can continue to foster more terrorism and wars. )
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
On the other hand , this might be just what the US wants.> For the world to be "afraid" of it. :twisted: (which in turn can continue to foster more terrorism and wars. )

Sounds like a plan :roll:
 

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Machjo said:
But I do believe in consistency. Until the UN approves actions against the US, we have no right to take action unless allowed to do so in full accordance with international law.

As for Bosnia, if it was in fact in violation of international law, then yes, I do oppose it. In the same manner, if a person should steal my money, I catch him, but he poses no immediate danger to me, I have no right to take the law into my own hands and bash his head in. The most I could do is make a citizen's arrest. Unless he poses an immediate threat of course, in which case I then have the right to do what I must to stay alive.

Well I have read most of your posts over the past couple of months and I admit you are consistent and appear to be fair across the board, so I tip my hat to you in that regard, that isn't common lately.

But I have a hypothetical question for you. Lets say for example, China has enough reason to believe Taiwan poses a threat to China. Asks for UN approval for a pre-emptive strike against Taiwan. The UN says, nuh uh. What do you believe China should do? Wait to be attacked or attack and save Chinese lives?

Well, I'm not sure of the laws on this one. On the one hand, I'm aware that international law does recognize Taiwan as being a part of China. But what that means exactly, in terms of the nitty gritty details of it all, I don't know. I'd assume there must be other laws which recognize Taiwan's independent administration or something of the sort, I honestly don't know and would need to look up the details on that.

So let's suppose that, according to international law, China does not need UN approval to strike Taiwan as it would be regarded as part of its territory, then I guess it would be free to do as it pleases from a strictly legal standpoint. If, on the other hand, there are laws restricting such action, and requiring the mainland to respect Taiwan's administrative independence from the mainland, then I would suppose that, if the mainland does in fact have enough reason to be concerned, then certainly it would have something to show the international community, no? Now if the UN still doesn't see enough evidence that Taiwan poses a legitimate threat to the mainland, then I would advise the mainland continue to abide within international law. It could continue searching for further evidence, or discuss the situation further with the international community. But in the end, if the UN still says no, and assuming international laws do not allow China to strike pre-emptively, then it ought to relinquish any ideas of attacking Taiwan.

If it does so anyway, then it would be in violatin of internatinal law, not to mention that it becomes less predictable to the rest of the international community.
 

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Although I'll be very honest here. I love China, but what apears to me at least to be a certain rise of Chinese nationalism is a little frightening. I'd described it already in another thread in this forum, and so won't repeat it again. There are some reassuring checks in it, but there are still dangerous elements in it none-the-less.

But again, I'd rather the world act pre-emptively now in non-military and non-political ways rather than reactively later in a political manner.

One of the better pro-active approaches in my opinion is to promote more inter-cultural education and exchange at the grassroots level in China. Not only among the elites, sinse they're usually teh moderates. But rather among the general population, among who nationalism could be a potentially attractive ideology in the future.

Yet while Chinese nationalism is a political issue, I don't believe it's roots are such. The political aspect is merely a symptom. I think the real issue lies at the root of education, and that's something even the Chinese government cannot control entirely, and that's why it would need grassroots non-political participation on a global level.

Just my 0.02RMB