Ethnic cleansing of Anglos in Quebec
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jackd said:
He's right.
The "idiot assholes", as you say, asks the store owners politly if they can put all their signs in French AND, if they want, in English. Like every where in the world, when you fail to comply to the law, you get charge....and no, you don't get hung.
What happens in Quebec is really provincial business and I too have to admire them.
But I do not admire the corrupt bilingual Adscam feds who push bilingualism throughout the country in areas that never heard French.
I feel at a great disadvantage because I, like the majority of Canadians, am unilingual English. I am not a federal civil servant so I did not have the opportunity to learn French at government expense.
Click here to get a quick unilingual education
But I do not admire the corrupt bilingual Adscam feds who push bilingualism throughout the country in areas that never heard French.
I feel at a great disadvantage because I, like the majority of Canadians, am unilingual English. I am not a federal civil servant so I did not have the opportunity to learn French at government expense.
Click here to get a quick unilingual education
Re: RE: Ethnic cleansing of Anglos in Quebec
Thanks.
The feds are doing a great job making English so pissed of French. The push for the country to be bilingual is to give you a sense that you are doing everything you can to protect a minority. And at the same time, piss you off.
I feel a great disadvantage because I, like the majority of Québecers, speak French.
shamus11 said:
Thanks.
shamus11 said:
The feds are doing a great job making English so pissed of French. The push for the country to be bilingual is to give you a sense that you are doing everything you can to protect a minority. And at the same time, piss you off.
shamus11 said:
I feel a great disadvantage because I, like the majority of Québecers, speak French.
Re: RE: Ethnic cleansing of A
Are you sure that's the way you want to argue this?
This looks like a double standard to me. In Québec the majority rules, but in the rest of the country we have to look out for the minority's rights.cub1c said:
Are you sure that's the way you want to argue this?
RE: Ethnic cleansing of A
It is a double standard. And this have been admited by Canada a long time ago! All it is required is that we concretise it once and for all.
Canada is bilangual only because Québec is French. Who can argue this.
Since I'm already seperated in my head, a sovereign will no long have to face this double standard. There would be no more political movement that will use this as an advantage. The day after a separation, political groups will just popup like crazy in our province. No more English/French war. A education/health/ecology/worker/consumer war will emerge. This is what I call evolution.
And a Canada, where all their efforts is put into unity, will never be able to have this war.
The double standard question will be resolve for good.
Unity is the reason why Québecois has only 2 choices provincialy, federalism or sovereignty, English or French. Most of the Québecers are tired of this double standard, it is so unproductive for them.
It is a double standard. And this have been admited by Canada a long time ago! All it is required is that we concretise it once and for all.
Canada is bilangual only because Québec is French. Who can argue this.
Since I'm already seperated in my head, a sovereign will no long have to face this double standard. There would be no more political movement that will use this as an advantage. The day after a separation, political groups will just popup like crazy in our province. No more English/French war. A education/health/ecology/worker/consumer war will emerge. This is what I call evolution.
And a Canada, where all their efforts is put into unity, will never be able to have this war.
The double standard question will be resolve for good.
Unity is the reason why Québecois has only 2 choices provincialy, federalism or sovereignty, English or French. Most of the Québecers are tired of this double standard, it is so unproductive for them.
Re: RE: Ethnic cleansing of Anglos in Quebec
Thanks.
But you don't seem to realize the benefits Canada could get from being seperated. No more war against French people! Not even one more cent in defending Canada against French that doesn't feel united. Wouldn't it be what you are seeking for? I think it is.
But it takes a lot of maturity to make this decision.
But I think I'm getting out of the subject. My European(?) roots takes control of me all the time.
LadyC said:
Thanks.
But you don't seem to realize the benefits Canada could get from being seperated. No more war against French people! Not even one more cent in defending Canada against French that doesn't feel united. Wouldn't it be what you are seeking for? I think it is.
But it takes a lot of maturity to make this decision.
But I think I'm getting out of the subject. My European(?) roots takes control of me all the time.
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I can argue this...there are French speaking communities all over Manitoba, and I'm sure it is that way with most of Canada...the St. Boniface area of Winnipeg has the largest French speaking population in Canada outside of Quebec...do you think they'll benefit from your selfish bid for independence?
I've read your posts, and after contemplating what you've written, I see nothing that would necessitate the separation of Quebec...nothing...
You've mentioned several times that it is the "feelings" that separtists have that leaves no other option than to seperate from Canada...well the "feeling" I get is that the separtists have stumbled upon a gold mine in that the federal government is willing to spend millions upon millions to keep Quebec from seperating...people are getting rich off of your "feelings", and it's not me or you...
I'm sure that eventually the separtists will mellow out, and leave the cause behind, and count their ill-gotten booty from the comfort of their Canadian tax-payer funded homes...but once again the issue will arise, to enrich another generation of Quebecois, at the expense of hard working Canadians...
There is no evidence that your culture is being marginalized, and you are not subject to undue hardships. No one is denying you any right that is protected under the Charter. You are free to speak either official language. You have not been denied anything that this country offers to all of its citizens.
In addition, you tend to gloss over the fact that, upon separation, you WILL be denying the fundamental language rights that both anglophones and francophones enjoy in a unified Canada to the English speaking people in your province...so they will be forced to learn french, or be left behind...that smacks of arrogance and adolescent egocentrism...you say that all people will be treated equal in a sovereign Quebec, but that's not true, and you know it...
Also, just days prior to the 1995 referendum, the Cree and Inuit of northern Quebec each held their own separate referendums and voted 96 and 95% respectively, to remain in Canada. This tells me that they minorities in your province have some very real concerns that their rights will NOT be respected as you have been trying to maintain all along...
So...as yet none of the people espousing separation from Canada have made a single point that would be considered compelling by a sane, rational person...
Let it be known as well, that should Quebec vote to separate based upon what scant reasoning you've provided here, then I, and a few million more just like me, would take great exception to this, and would view Quebec as a rogue state, and would take necessary measures to place immense pressure on the federal government to act accordingly.
I see many parallels in what the separtists are trying to accomplish, and the formation of the state of Israel, an extremely ethnocentric society, and one which I consider to be a rogue nation...
To put it succinctly, I would go to war to prevent that from happening in my own country...
cub1c said:
I can argue this...there are French speaking communities all over Manitoba, and I'm sure it is that way with most of Canada...the St. Boniface area of Winnipeg has the largest French speaking population in Canada outside of Quebec...do you think they'll benefit from your selfish bid for independence?
I've read your posts, and after contemplating what you've written, I see nothing that would necessitate the separation of Quebec...nothing...
You've mentioned several times that it is the "feelings" that separtists have that leaves no other option than to seperate from Canada...well the "feeling" I get is that the separtists have stumbled upon a gold mine in that the federal government is willing to spend millions upon millions to keep Quebec from seperating...people are getting rich off of your "feelings", and it's not me or you...
I'm sure that eventually the separtists will mellow out, and leave the cause behind, and count their ill-gotten booty from the comfort of their Canadian tax-payer funded homes...but once again the issue will arise, to enrich another generation of Quebecois, at the expense of hard working Canadians...
There is no evidence that your culture is being marginalized, and you are not subject to undue hardships. No one is denying you any right that is protected under the Charter. You are free to speak either official language. You have not been denied anything that this country offers to all of its citizens.
In addition, you tend to gloss over the fact that, upon separation, you WILL be denying the fundamental language rights that both anglophones and francophones enjoy in a unified Canada to the English speaking people in your province...so they will be forced to learn french, or be left behind...that smacks of arrogance and adolescent egocentrism...you say that all people will be treated equal in a sovereign Quebec, but that's not true, and you know it...
Also, just days prior to the 1995 referendum, the Cree and Inuit of northern Quebec each held their own separate referendums and voted 96 and 95% respectively, to remain in Canada. This tells me that they minorities in your province have some very real concerns that their rights will NOT be respected as you have been trying to maintain all along...
So...as yet none of the people espousing separation from Canada have made a single point that would be considered compelling by a sane, rational person...
Let it be known as well, that should Quebec vote to separate based upon what scant reasoning you've provided here, then I, and a few million more just like me, would take great exception to this, and would view Quebec as a rogue state, and would take necessary measures to place immense pressure on the federal government to act accordingly.
I see many parallels in what the separtists are trying to accomplish, and the formation of the state of Israel, an extremely ethnocentric society, and one which I consider to be a rogue nation...
To put it succinctly, I would go to war to prevent that from happening in my own country...
RE: Ethnic cleansing of A
I was about to anwser you when I saw:
HAHA. Nobody in the world is afraid of your military, nor does the Québecers.
You complain about separatists getting money from federal by using separation as a technique. And then you say, with your childish voice: if you separate I'll beat you up. Looks like a street gang to me.
Canada going to war against a nation where it's majority decided to seperate is just impossible, don't dream about this.
But it's normal not to understand, you don't live here.
I was about to anwser you when I saw:
HAHA. Nobody in the world is afraid of your military, nor does the Québecers.
You complain about separatists getting money from federal by using separation as a technique. And then you say, with your childish voice: if you separate I'll beat you up. Looks like a street gang to me.
Canada going to war against a nation where it's majority decided to seperate is just impossible, don't dream about this.
But it's normal not to understand, you don't live here.
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I don't live in Israel either, but I understand that it is an extremely intolerant, ethnocentric society...and one that is not unlike the sovereign Quebec that you are promoting...
Next I'll be hearing about how the PQ is going to build a wall around Quebec to keep out the filthy anglos... 8O
cub1c said:
I don't live in Israel either, but I understand that it is an extremely intolerant, ethnocentric society...and one that is not unlike the sovereign Quebec that you are promoting...
Next I'll be hearing about how the PQ is going to build a wall around Quebec to keep out the filthy anglos... 8O
RE: Ethnic cleansing of A
Your misconception about Québec looks pretty hard to dismantle.
But you people say Québec is like any provinces in Canada, right?
Your misconception about Québec looks pretty hard to dismantle.
But you people say Québec is like any provinces in Canada, right?
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I would suggest too, that your misconceptions of Canada are unfounded and your position is trite... :wink:
cub1c said:
I would suggest too, that your misconceptions of Canada are unfounded and your position is trite... :wink:
Re: RE: Ethnic cleansing of A
You still have not made a case for separation...I'm not buying into the "you have to live here and feel it" line of crap...
You are not being oppressed or persecuted in any way...
You are not suffering form economic hardships, in fact, you are getting a great deal more than should be afforded your province...
Your livelyhood is not threatened, nor is your life...
You are not being denied your cultural identity...
How can all this not lead one to believe that the separation movement is not just a big cash grab to get rich off the gullible anglos?
You still have not made a case for separation...I'm not buying into the "you have to live here and feel it" line of crap...
You are not being oppressed or persecuted in any way...
You are not suffering form economic hardships, in fact, you are getting a great deal more than should be afforded your province...
Your livelyhood is not threatened, nor is your life...
You are not being denied your cultural identity...
How can all this not lead one to believe that the separation movement is not just a big cash grab to get rich off the gullible anglos?
RE: Ethnic cleansing of A
We are denied to promote our culture around the world, like any country has the right to.
It is even more important today, in the context of globalization.
"You (Québécers) make money of the back of all Canadian"
LOL
If you're true about this, it just proves how looser you are, to get screwed like that by stupid frenchies. You are soo looser, that you still want to stay with us, so we can rape you more.
You seem good using the "we are the victims" line when it suits you.
We are denied to promote our culture around the world, like any country has the right to.
It is even more important today, in the context of globalization.
"You (Québécers) make money of the back of all Canadian"
LOL
If you're true about this, it just proves how looser you are, to get screwed like that by stupid frenchies. You are soo looser, that you still want to stay with us, so we can rape you more.
You seem good using the "we are the victims" line when it suits you.
Out of the many provinces that I've been through I've seen that they all try keep the french language included, through special schools, sometimes even communities... Even in Alberta. But when comes to the Quebec gov't it seems they don't seem to have the same drive to keep a minority language included.
Why?
I don't know. It seems a little strange to cry foul over language issues anywhere in the country except your own province, you can use the excuse of bad treatment in the past, but when there's already efforts to rectify that problem, bringing up the past to justify current activities is not very constructive and just plain cycladic.
Why?
I don't know. It seems a little strange to cry foul over language issues anywhere in the country except your own province, you can use the excuse of bad treatment in the past, but when there's already efforts to rectify that problem, bringing up the past to justify current activities is not very constructive and just plain cycladic.
I still say that any language that needs legislation to stay alive is in big trouble,and,yes, I mean French.
Yes French is in trouble in North America and needs a strick legislation in Québec NOW. I'm not saying Canada coast to coast. I mean in Québec! For sure it would be great if you guys would to it for your minoritys, but here, we do it for our majority!
We are fighting against 350 milion people!
And saying we are getting rid of English is just plain ignorant considering the fact that even if we go to French schools, we get to start learning English at age 10 and never stop.
Can't you understand that English is so an easy language once you know French? You really don't need to be teached in English to know it! English is so easy. Man, I've learn most of my English through the Simpsons.
We are fighting against 350 milion people!
And saying we are getting rid of English is just plain ignorant considering the fact that even if we go to French schools, we get to start learning English at age 10 and never stop.
Can't you understand that English is so an easy language once you know French? You really don't need to be teached in English to know it! English is so easy. Man, I've learn most of my English through the Simpsons.