Elitist Twit

[Tyr]

The article said the son has problems reading complicated plans. Since most people have problems reading complicated plans, his son is normal. I understand that having a normal child is terribly embarrassing to elitist twits.

It didn't seem to bother Ronald Raygun?

 

[Tyr]

How is choosing to vote for the best person I could find undemocratic? The knowledge of the billions of average Joes doesn't matter when you can only vote for one person. If I have to choose between one average person and one whose knowledge and achievements would make them elite, I'm going for the elite one hands down.

Elite isn't just a word for a privileged minority or the socioeconomically superior. It also means the best, the most talented, the smartest, the most skilled, etc. Elite should be something people strive to be. George W Bush came from a rich family, none of his life achievements would have qualified him to be called elite before he was elected president.

How is choosing to vote for the best person I could find undemocratic? The knowledge of the billions of average Joes doesn't matter when you can only vote for one person. If I have to choose between one average person and one whose knowledge and achievements would make them elite, I'm going for the elite one hands down.

True enough. I tend to like the fact that the "leader" is not "joe the plumber", but someone who's somewhat smarter than the average schmuck.

Just the fact that people perceive a person an "elite" (not to be confused with elitist) would seem to garner some attention, that they have something going on that is more than the average car saleman

George W Bush came from a rich family, none of his life achievements would have qualified him to be called elite before he was elected president

....or after he was elected

 

[darkbeaver]

How is choosing to vote for the best person I could find undemocratic? The knowledge of the billions of average Joes doesn't matter when you can only vote for one person. If I have to choose between one average person and one whose knowledge and achievements would make them elite, I'm going for the elite one hands down.

Elite isn't just a word for a privileged minority or the socioeconomically superior. It also means the best, the most talented, the smartest, the most skilled, etc. Elite should be something people strive to be. George W Bush came from a rich family, none of his life achievements would have qualified him to be called elite before he was elected president.

You found that person because he was squeezed through the elite strainer. That knowlege and those achievments serve the elite they act in the perpetuation of position and power.You are not voting for a person you are voting for yourself. He is elite by virtue of wealth. This is not debatable. Certainly elite means, a superior group, that superiority is wealth, the wealthy buy everything including political power. You maybe have champion and elite confused. I would like the smartest and the most competent elected as well, it just won't ever happen while money rules.

 

[Said1]

It's a plutocracy, in the most modern sense of the term.

 

[Tyr]

You found that person because he was squeezed through the elite strainer. That knowlege and those achievments serve the elite they act in the perpetuation of position and power.You are not voting for a person you are voting for yourself. He is elite by virtue of wealth. This is not debatable. Certainly elite means, a superior group, that superiority is wealth, the wealthy buy everything including political power. You maybe have champion and elite confused. I would like the smartest and the most competent elected as well, it just won't ever happen while money rules.

elite strainer

an "elite strainer"..... Is that like a Nigerian collander or something. Gotta get me one

You are not voting for a person you are voting for yourself.

How very Freudian of you..

He is elite by virtue of wealth. This is not debatable

uh uh. I'm with Tracy. Wayne Gretsky was elite. Satre was elite. Wealth is not criteria for "elitism"

The rebel movement that overthrew Idi Amin was not "wealthy", but idealistic. Where did the issue of monetary "value" come in.

I'd question your value system if you think it based solely on monetary wealth

 

[TenPenny]

The thing that annoys me about this is when did elite become an insult? Why would't you want your political representatives to be elite? They should be the smartest, best people you can find.

When average Joe becomes the leader, you get George W Bush and look how great that one has worked out.

Exactly. My father used to comment that Canadians seem to have a desire to aim for the average, to never try to be better than anyone else, to try to accomplish the Lowest Common Denominator. (He was a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, so I guess he knew whereof he spoke). It's been acceptable to make fun of the 'smart kids' in class, even when you can't make fun the ugly or fat or smelly kids.
Me, I want us, as a country, to aim high, to celebrate our best and brightest. Don't be afraid of the 'smart kids' in school. We should hope, and expect, that our government is made up of people who are the best at what they do, and hope to give their all to improve us as a society.I'm tired of the race to the bottom. I'm disgusted by our overwhelming desire to be average. Aim high. Dream big. Get your ass in gear. Work hard.
Stop settling for mediocrity. We need to push for the top, not be scared of it.And that's why I hate the term 'elitist'. It's a word used by people who are scared of anyone who accomplishes more, or has more talent, than they do. It's the ultimate in socialistic put downs. Nobody should ever do more than anyone else. That just leads to more people doing nothing at all.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I'm with TenPenny on this one. The first definition (of five) my dictionary gives for elite is the best of anything considered collectively, like a group of people. Aren't those the people we want running things on our behalf, the best of us? By "the best" in this context I would mean the brightest, most educated, thoughtful, informed people. I'd vote for someone like that ahead of Joe the Plumber any day. Big dumb guys and power aren't a combination to vote for. If that makes me an elitist, well... guilty as charged, and proud of it.

 

[darkbeaver]

elite strainer

an "elite strainer"..... Is that like a Nigerian collander or something. Gotta get me one

You are not voting for a person you are voting for yourself.

How very Freudian of you..

He is elite by virtue of wealth. This is not debatable

uh uh. I'm with Tracy. Wayne Gretsky was elite. Satre was elite. Wealth is not criteria for "elitism"

The rebel movement that overthrew Idi Amin was not "wealthy", but idealistic. Where did the issue of monetary "value" come in.

I'd question your value system if you think it based solely on monetary wealth

elite according to MR Webster======n; the choice part; also: a superior group

Since when did wealth not purchase social cultural and class superiority? My value system is not based on monetary wealth, thiers is. Wayne Gretskys wealth of talent, Satres wealth of thought wealth does not only mean money.
When you vote you are by the common definition selecting the policy that you believe will best meet your needs this benigne selfinterest is the basis of democracy, it profits the voter who understands that the collective selfinterest is the only way to preserve the individual, it does not diminish it.

The rebels had a wealth of rebellious idealism.