Drunk driving charges dismissed in Edmonton Police case

[Spade]

...and you really think a cop - ex or not - isn't going to use whatever he can to influence another cop? You lie and I'll swear to it is an easy addiction. Did I say I have an impression they know each other? My son just left the EPD. In his year on the job, he got to be acquainted with a large number of them ... and left because of that unwritten code that says you cover for your fellow officer - no matter what. The idea of wearing some bad cop's reputation lost its appeal in his time with Toronto.

Yep, the code!

 

[Spade]

Canadian Association of Journalists — Media Magazine

 

[VanIsle]

...and you really think a cop - ex or not - isn't going to use whatever he can to influence another cop? You lie and I'll swear to it is an easy addiction. Did I say I have an impression they know each other? My son just left the EPD. In his year on the job, he got to be acquainted with a large number of them ... and left because of that unwritten code that says you cover for your fellow officer - no matter what. The idea of wearing some bad cop's reputation lost its appeal in his time with Toronto.

Then good for your son. According to some on here the Edmonton Police is no where to be a proud police officer. That was a surprize to me as there was a time when they were pretty high on the list. Sounds like they have sunken to the lowest.
It's a really bad day if a bad cop can have influence over a good cop. The un-written code should be - bad cops get caught.

 

[VanIsle]

Sorry Island, but, he was an off-duty officer, not a retired one. And the article says he blew OVER .08, not .08 on the dot. They never tell the precise measure, but, knowing officers on the EPS, it was more than a slight blow over. This was a very cut and dry case. I know that it's your gut reaction to stick up for the police, but, I really don't think this particular one warrants your efforts.

You are quite right. He was an off duty officer. It is easy to by-pass dates while reading an article. He only retired last October and the accident occurred last May so a period of about 5 months passed before he retired. I guarantee you that someone let him know that he should resign or be fired. He has more charges pending and I doubt anyone is going to go easy on him.

 

[karrie]

Then good for your son. According to some on here the Edmonton Police is no where to be a proud police officer. That was a surprize to me as there was a time when they were pretty high on the list. Sounds like they have sunken to the lowest.
It's a really bad day if a bad cop can have influence over a good cop. The un-written code should be - bad cops get caught.

I know cops on Edmonton's force, and they are great people. But yes, they are having major troubles with corruption. But it always tends to be the few painting the many doesn't it?

 

[karrie]

You are quite right. He was an off duty officer. It is easy to by-pass dates while reading an article. He only retired last October and the accident occurred last May so a period of about 5 months passed before he retired. I guarantee you that someone let him know that he should resign or be fired. He has more charges pending and I doubt anyone is going to go easy on him.

I'm willing to be dollars to doughnuts (that's not a police jab, just a saying, I swear :lol, that given the quantity of drugs he was carrying, he resigned to protect a few others from an interdepartmental investigation on what exactly he was intending on doing with it. From what I've heard (isn't gossip grand?), it was enough marijuana for dealing, definitely more than personal use.

 

[lone wolf]

I'm willing to be dollars to doughnuts (that's not a police jab, just a saying, I swear :lol, that given the quantity of drugs he was carrying, he resigned to protect a few others from an interdepartmental investigation on what exactly he was intending on doing with it. From what I've heard (isn't gossip grand?), it was enough marijuana for dealing, definitely more than personal use.

;-):roll: (Sarcasm alert!)...hometown grapevine has advantages. Details seldom see daylight beyond the home page edition....

 

[Chev]

He was retired from the police force: Drunk-driving charges against a former police officer . This is taken from the article. He sounds to me like he could even be someone who was forced into retirement but that is total speculation on my part. The guy is an obvious loser. It's really too bad the courts let him off. Sloppy police work can make this happen. I'm sorry if I sound a tad defensive. You really seem to be on the "other" side right now.

Islandpacific... For information's sake....
Off-duty officer charged in alleged drunk driving crash3 people lift burning truck to rescue trapped driver

Last Updated: Monday, May 12, 2008 | 10:11 AM CBC News

An off-duty Edmonton police constable has been charged with a number of alcohol-related offences after his car was involved in a fiery crash early Sunday morning in the city's south side.
Police allege Const. Douglas Brown, 29, sped through a red light at the intersection of 66 Street and Whitemud Drive around 2:15 a.m. and plowed into a pickup truck with four people….. The constable has been suspended with pay, pending the outcome of the investigation. He has been with the police service for three years, working out of the downtown division……
Former Edmonton cop acquitted of drunk driving charges
But he still faces dangerous driving charges in crash with pickup
Karen Kleiss, edmontonjournal.com

Published: Thursday, February 12, 2009
……………………. Brown resigned from his position in the Edmonton Police Service last October. The trial resumes Friday, with closing arguments.

 

[VanIsle]

I'm willing to be dollars to doughnuts (that's not a police jab, just a saying, I swear :lol, that given the quantity of drugs he was carrying, he resigned to protect a few others from an interdepartmental investigation on what exactly he was intending on doing with it. From what I've heard (isn't gossip grand?), it was enough marijuana for dealing, definitely more than personal use.

That kind of gossip cannot be ignored. He won't get to protect anyone. Maybe it's time for a darn good clean up. Helps to straighten messes up. Sounds like that force needs a good cleanng. You don't have to explain dollars to donuts to me and I would not have taken offence :lol:. I don't bruise that easy.

 

[VanIsle]

Islandpacific... For information's sake....
Off-duty officer charged in alleged drunk driving crash3 people lift burning truck to rescue trapped driver

Last Updated: Monday, May 12, 2008 | 10:11 AM CBC News

An off-duty Edmonton police constable has been charged with a number of alcohol-related offences after his car was involved in a fiery crash early Sunday morning in the city's south side.
Police allege Const. Douglas Brown, 29, sped through a red light at the intersection of 66 Street and Whitemud Drive around 2:15 a.m. and plowed into a pickup truck with four people….. The constable has been suspended with pay, pending the outcome of the investigation. He has been with the police service for three years, working out of the downtown division……
Former Edmonton cop acquitted of drunk driving charges
But he still faces dangerous driving charges in crash with pickup
Karen Kleiss, edmontonjournal.com

Published: Thursday, February 12, 2009
……………………. Brown resigned from his position in the Edmonton Police Service last October. The trial resumes Friday, with closing arguments.

Thank you for your post but I fully believed what Karrie had to say. :smile:

 

[Chev]

Islandpacific...My apologies, I replied before i read all of the other posts.

 

[VanIsle]

Islandpacific...My apologies, I replied before i read all of the other posts.

No need. It's all good.:smile:

 

[Tyr]

Sorry Island, but, he was an off-duty officer, not a retired one. And the article says he blew OVER .08, not .08 on the dot. They never tell the precise measure, but, knowing officers on the EPS, it was more than a slight blow over. This was a very cut and dry case. I know that it's your gut reaction to stick up for the police, but, I really don't think this particular one warrants your efforts.

.08 is two drinks within the hr (dependant upon body weight) and to be over that meant he was throwin' back pretty good

 

[VanIsle]

.08 is two drinks within the hr (dependant upon body weight) and to be over that meant he was throwin' back pretty good

No - to be over that may mean he was drinking heavy or it may mean he had 3 drinks instead of two. Since the body disposes of 1 oz every hour, he may also have been an hour without a drink. There are all kinds of circumstances. He may even have been high on drugs along with his drinks so the situation could be far worse than we know.