Drilling Causes Major Crude Oil Spill in Alaska

Karlin

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The proposed ANWAR pipeline thru Alaska to Canada will leave a mess

We will be better off to not build it, leave that crude in the ground.


Evidence is the certainty of pipeline leaks. They always occur in any significant length of line.

This week a line burst in Alaska, and 50,000 bbls of crude now grace the tundra. It dosn't clean up very easily, and is at least mildly toxic to all that touch it.

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2006-03-07.asp

Betch $10 this story didn't reach the major news networks!! And that is pure corporate humpmanship - don't you think we deserve to know this stuff if we are to have a reasoned opinion on if it should be built across our great nation to foul it so?

[meaning the media is not telling us the bad stuff about fossil fuel issues whereever they arise.

Rebel I say!!
And stop buying those big cars you traitor sellout sickos!!

Karlin in the morning
 

Karlin

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Ya, it will be a big mess across 1000's of kilometers of pileline to bring that oil and gas down south. Or worse - tankers!

The other thing is global warming - that fossil fuel shoud NOT be burnt right now, maybe later on after some of the current f.f. smoke has cleared.

We went to far in burning just one fuel - it turned out to be bad for the air and bad for "equtiable economic development" - a monopoly of anything does that, and FFs monoploy on energy we use went too far.

We MUST reel it in NOW, and that means, for one thing, leaving Alaska oil and gas in the ground. .
 

Sassylassie

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The Oil Industry will smash us like bugs. If they want something you either give it to them or they take it. The money makers could care less if they damage or polute an environment we are mere pest to them.
 

Johnny Utah

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Karlin said:
The proposed ANWAR pipeline thru Alaska to Canada will leave a mess

We will be better off to not build it, leave that crude in the ground.


Evidence is the certainty of pipeline leaks. They always occur in any significant length of line.

This week a line burst in Alaska, and 50,000 bbls of crude now grace the tundra. It dosn't clean up very easily, and is at least mildly toxic to all that touch it.

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2006-03-07.asp

Betch $10 this story didn't reach the major news networks!! And that is pure corporate humpmanship - don't you think we deserve to know this stuff if we are to have a reasoned opinion on if it should be built across our great nation to foul it so?

[meaning the media is not telling us the bad stuff about fossil fuel issues whereever they arise.

Rebel I say!!
And stop buying those big cars you traitor sellout sickos!!

Karlin in the morning
I'm on a long waiting list for a Toyota Hybrid. If more people drove Hybrids or even those smart cars it could make a difference, not alot but it's a start.

If they build the pipeline they could build it with 2 or 3 layers where the inner is made of a strong rubber or something like that so incase the pipeline ever did break there would be the added protection.
 

darkbeaver

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Sassylassie said:
The Oil Industry will smash us like bugs. If they want something you either give it to them or they take it. The money makers could care less if they damage or polute an environment we are mere pest to them.

Sassy I don't understand you, you'll take a stand like the above, and rightly so,but when the same people start and encourage war you support them, you have it both ways.
 

Sassylassie

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I would personaly ride a cow/horse to work if it would help slow down the growth of the Oil Industry. It has no morals or conscience, I admire anyone who challenges it and fights it's growth.
 

darkbeaver

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Johnny Utah said:
Karlin said:
The proposed ANWAR pipeline thru Alaska to Canada will leave a mess

We will be better off to not build it, leave that crude in the ground.


Evidence is the certainty of pipeline leaks. They always occur in any significant length of line.

This week a line burst in Alaska, and 50,000 bbls of crude now grace the tundra. It dosn't clean up very easily, and is at least mildly toxic to all that touch it.

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2006-03-07.asp

Betch $10 this story didn't reach the major news networks!! And that is pure corporate humpmanship - don't you think we deserve to know this stuff if we are to have a reasoned opinion on if it should be built across our great nation to foul it so?

[meaning the media is not telling us the bad stuff about fossil fuel issues whereever they arise.

Rebel I say!!
And stop buying those big cars you traitor sellout sickos!!

Karlin in the morning
I'm on a long waiting list for a Toyota Hybrid. If more people drove Hybrids or even those smart cars it could make a difference, not alot but it's a start.

If they build the pipeline they could build it with 2 or 3 layers where the inner is made of a strong rubber or something like that so incase the pipeline ever did break there would be the added protection.

So you're going to buy a forigne car and put more Americans out of work, you're only patriotic when you can get your rocks off with warfare but when it comes to supporting your niebours your not.
If you expect corporate pigs to spend extra money to wrap oil pipe you're dreaming.
I read the material at the links you provided, no wonder you have the attitude you do.
 

Kreskin

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Feb 23, 2006
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Isn't time we Westerners demanded a major collective investment in alternative fuels? North Americans should have a 10 year plan to convert every new vehicle to ethanol or some other non-fossil fuel. It's time that North Americans stopped being faithful sheep to oil barons and replaced their politicians with those who are dedicated to something other than oil wars. The cost of this would be a fraction of the amount spent today on oil crusades charading as pro-democracy campaigns.
 

Sassylassie

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I agree whole heartly, but do you think the oil industry is going to allow any alternate fuel into the consumer market? No. Man-kind has advancements that are mind boggling but no one has come up with an alternate fuel source makes you wonder doesn't it. The oil industry are above the law, fine them they mock you. Sue them and win--good luck getting a court to enforce the judgement. Evil, pure evil.
 

Kreskin

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Feb 23, 2006
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Sassylassie said:
I agree whole heartly, but do you think the oil industry is going to allow any alternate fuel into the consumer market? No. Man-kind has advancements that are mind boggling but no one has come up with an alternate fuel source makes you wonder doesn't it. The oil industry are above the law, fine them they mock you. Sue them and win--good luck getting a court to enforce the judgement. Evil, pure evil.

If we weren't simply gutless naive sheep, things would change. If I were the American Democratic Party, Canadian Liberals or NDP, I would run a very detailed alternative fuel plan as my #1 campaign platform. We know Conservatives on both sides of the border won't change because they and oil barons are joined at the hip.
 

Johnny Utah

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darkbeaver said:
Johnny Utah said:
Karlin said:
The proposed ANWAR pipeline thru Alaska to Canada will leave a mess

We will be better off to not build it, leave that crude in the ground.


Evidence is the certainty of pipeline leaks. They always occur in any significant length of line.

This week a line burst in Alaska, and 50,000 bbls of crude now grace the tundra. It dosn't clean up very easily, and is at least mildly toxic to all that touch it.

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2006-03-07.asp

Betch $10 this story didn't reach the major news networks!! And that is pure corporate humpmanship - don't you think we deserve to know this stuff if we are to have a reasoned opinion on if it should be built across our great nation to foul it so?

[meaning the media is not telling us the bad stuff about fossil fuel issues whereever they arise.

Rebel I say!!
And stop buying those big cars you traitor sellout sickos!!

Karlin in the morning
I'm on a long waiting list for a Toyota Hybrid. If more people drove Hybrids or even those smart cars it could make a difference, not alot but it's a start.

If they build the pipeline they could build it with 2 or 3 layers where the inner is made of a strong rubber or something like that so incase the pipeline ever did break there would be the added protection.

So you're going to buy a forigne car and put more Americans out of work, you're only patriotic when you can get your rocks off with warfare but when it comes to supporting your niebours your not.
If you expect corporate pigs to spend extra money to wrap oil pipe you're dreaming.
I read the material at the links you provided, no wonder you have the attitude you do.
Well Toyota is ahead of the rest. It's US Auto Makers own fault for not getting with the program and creating Hybrid Vehicles, so perhaps you should be asking the questions to them..

As for the Oil Pipeline well, of course it would be nice if they could do that but even I know they will not..

As for the Links, they were legit they proved my statement on the estimated 20,000 Terrorists being trained in Afghanistan during the 1990's..
 

Johnny Utah

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Kreskin said:
Sassylassie said:
I agree whole heartly, but do you think the oil industry is going to allow any alternate fuel into the consumer market? No. Man-kind has advancements that are mind boggling but no one has come up with an alternate fuel source makes you wonder doesn't it. The oil industry are above the law, fine them they mock you. Sue them and win--good luck getting a court to enforce the judgement. Evil, pure evil.

If we weren't simply gutless naive sheep, things would change. If I were the American Democratic Party, Canadian Liberals or NDP, I would run a very detailed alternative fuel plan as my #1 campaign platform. We know Conservatives on both sides of the border won't change because they and oil barons are joined at the hip.
All Parties on both sides of the border have their hands in the Oil companies one way or another. No Party is imune from it, not the Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, Democrats and Republicans. Oil Companies know how to lobby very well..
 

Sassylassie

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Right on Johnny; the worlds reigning governments are corrupt (regarding oil) and will never allow the oil industry to be held accountable. Never, ever.

Beav, no I don't have a problem with the Americans being in Irag. As a female I care about the oppressed and mal-treated Islamic females and their children. Regarding Extremist Male Muslims: Well I don't give a rat's ass about them. If the good ole USA can give the women and children a better life I'll stand behind them.
 

FiveParadox

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Hey! What about the persecuted gay Muslims? Let us not overlook the other minorities being persecuted in Iraq, and elsewhere, for factors beyond their control.
 

Sassylassie

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Sorry Five I didn't over look them but with Extreme Muslims you don't want to point things like that out. It would make you a Target.
 

Kreskin

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Sassylassie said:
Right on Johnny; the worlds reigning governments are corrupt (regarding oil) and will never allow the oil industry to be held accountable. Never, ever.

Beav, no I don't have a problem with the Americans being in Irag. As a female I care about the oppressed and mal-treated Islamic females and their children. Regarding Extremist Male Muslims: Well I don't give a rat's ass about them. If the good ole USA can give the women and children a better life I'll stand behind them.

Iraqi women and children had a better life than most in the region. They'll be far worse off as the Islamists settle in.
 

Sassylassie

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I'm sure life under the rule of that nut-bar was a wonderous thing to behold. Ever read "Not with out my Daughter". I'd love to see the Americans arm muslim women--want to guess who'd they point the gun at after they learned to use one? Not the USA.